is there actually away for hashirama to beat edo madara rep plus for awnswer

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

Tobi is intangible. Madara might not know this fact and could underestimate him kinda like what Minato did. Minato only survived because of his own S/T technique. As of now, Madara might not have a S/T ability. Plus, they're allies(supposedly), making it that much easier for Tobi to get close to him.

but if they were in a one on one fight and both are about to battle even if tobi uses that warping tech he is physically present so madara can use his katana or human path to take tobi soul because he can still touch tobi he has enough time.

also madara has added matter on him so it would take longer than usual to take him since he has the Armour and all that and if he used susanno then it would take a while.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

if someone can actually give me proof that hashirama can beat edo rinnegan madara or list a scenario that is possible i will give you plus rep.

Ok. Lets do a Jutsu Comparison, shall we:




Perfect Susano'o = Hashirama's wood element can make clones, I'm sure the original Hashirama could make a GIANT clone of himself to fight Susano'o.

Bijuu Control = They both can actually control Bijuu.

Edo = Hashirama's wife was an Uzumaki. Uzumaki's are EXPERTS at sealing techniques. See where I'm going here...?

Dojutus Kekkei Genkai = Bringer of Darkness Technique... cant hit what you cant see.

Izanagi = Madara can replay a death, but lose and eye. Hashirama has INSTANT healing without seals, which can save his life from a death threating jutsu just like Izanagi can same Madara from a Death threatening jutsu.

Katon = Hashirama's Kekkei Genkai includes WATER RELEASE mastery. Which means as a Kekkei Genkai he can perform the greatest water techniques to counter Madara's fire techs without using hand signs. BEASTY

Multiple Susano'o = Multiple Wood Clones. That can do ALL of hashirama's techniques, on a "smaller" level of course

Meteors = Earth Kekkei Genkai. Hide underground until the landscape is done being wrecked by the meteor lol

Absorbing Jutsus (rinnegan) = Wood release cannot be absorbed (i think)

Genjutsu = Hashirama has fought Madara and other Uchiha multiple times. They didnt have a rinnegan but they did have Sharigan/MS/EMS, so they had the ability to use Genjutsu. And he was won these fights.

 

[TheSages456]

What the hell?????

Madara couldn't use Perfect susano at that current lvl. He need the rinnegan to increase his doujutsu power and his chakra.

Plus EMS Madara would have won that battle, but the only reason he lost was to merely obtain Hashirama's senju dna.

you know whats funny? what you are saying has never been stated in the manga.

 

[SilverSlick]

but if they were in a one on one fight and both are about to battle even if tobi uses that warping tech he is physically present so madara can use his katana or human path to take tobi soul because he can still touch tobi he has enough time.

also madara has added matter on him so it would take longer than usual to take him since he has the Armour and all that and if he used susanno then it would take a while.

Tobi is the one with the six paths. Katana cannot touch him since he is intangible. I'm going off the idea that Madara doesn't yet know how he can counter his intangibleness.

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

Ok. Lets do a Jutsu Comparison, shall we:




Perfect Susano'o = Hashirama's wood element can make clones, I'm sure the original Hashirama could make a GIANT clone of himself to fight Susano'o.

Bijuu Control = They both can actually control Bijuu.

Edo = Hashirama's wife was an Uzumaki. Uzumaki's are EXPERTS at sealing techniques. See where I'm going here...?

Dojutus Kekkei Genkai = Bringer of Darkness Technique... cant hit what you cant see.

Izanagi = Madara can replay a death, but lose and eye. Hashirama has INSTANT healing without seals, which can save his life from a death threating jutsu just like Izanagi can same Madara from a Death threatening jutsu.

Katon = Hashirama's Kekkei Genkai includes WATER RELEASE mastery. Which means as a Kekkei Genkai he can perform the greatest water techniques to counter Madara's fire techs without using hand signs. BEASTY

Multiple Susano'o = Multiple Wood Clones. That can do ALL of hashirama's techniques, on a "smaller" level of course

Meteors = Earth Kekkei Genkai. Hide underground until the landscape is done being wrecked by the meteor lol

Absorbing Jutsus (rinnegan) = Wood release cannot be absorbed (i think)

Genjutsu = Hashirama has fought Madara and other Uchiha multiple times. They didnt have a rinnegan but they did have Sharigan/MS/EMS, so they had the ability to use Genjutsu. And he was won these fights.

1.we don't know if he can manipulate the size of his wood clone, wood clones are just take the exact size of the user and his abilities so i don't think he can do that.

2. madara can manipulate bijuu but all i have seen from hashirama is to restrain bijuu but there both good but madara is better in controling.

3.madara can kill his wife, hashirama would need to protect both his wife and himself that is going to be hard, she may have sealing abilities but how can she seal madara she would need to touch him some how and tech like the death god require death and hashirama doesn't seem to be the type of dude to do this to his wife.
sealing the tailed beast is apart of the uzumaki clan but sealing humans idk about that.

4.the eternal mangekyou sharingan grants madara eternal light so the bringer of dakness can't blind him.

6.if hashirama uses wood release madara can just use his deva path power or better yet asura path to blow the forest up.

wood release has chakra so it can be absorbed.

plus rep for contributions

 

[Stark]

There is no chance at beating him, Hashirama can no longer do this, Madara is the closest thing to the SO6P at the moment. Only person who has a chance at heating him right now is Tobi.

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

There is no chance at beating him, Hashirama can no longer do this, Madara is the closest thing to the SO6P at the moment. Only person who has a chance at heating him right now is Tobi.

madara does have the younger son and elder son.

 

[Maunten]

Hashirama trained his sealing abilities with the leader of the legendery sealing clan the uzumaki, this is something that madara can not develop simply by getting hashi's DNA.

Hashi can also control tailed beasts like no other, probably because he can calm them rather than through some kekkei genkai, another thing madara can not just get from DNA.

Hashi successfully gathered multiple tailed beasts in the past and can do it again.

He can use powerful genjutsu, and his close high ranking senju clan mate was a legendary genjutsu user, someone fighting against the uchiha clan would develop some sort of genjutsu resistense of an adapted fighting style.

Massive amounts of chakra, and healing capabilities comparable to an edo.

Hashi is a med nin, meaning incredible chakra control, minimising the hand signs needed for jutsu, fast and power jutsu.

Senju strength, and most certainly a more advance ability of chakra control taijutsu than tsunade, he could probably break through susanoo's.

The will of fire.

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

Hashirama trained his sealing abilities with the leader of the legendery sealing clan the uzumaki, this is something that madara can not develop simply by getting hashi's DNA.

Hashi can also control tailed beasts like no other, probably because he can calm them rather than through some kekkei genkai, another thing madara can not just get from DNA.

Hashi successfully gathered multiple tailed beasts in the past and can do it again.

He can use powerful genjutsu, and his close high ranking senju clan mate was a legendary genjutsu user, someone fighting against the uchiha clan would develop some sort of genjutsu resistense of an adapted fighting style.

Massive amounts of chakra, and healing capabilities comparable to an edo.

Hashi is a med nin, meaning incredible chakra control, minimising the hand signs needed for jutsu, fast and power jutsu.

Senju strength, and most certainly a more advance ability of chakra control taijutsu than tsunade, he could probably break through susanoo's.

The will of fire.

what are talking about madara has hashirama dna so any younger son clan abilities that the younger son can have is what madara can have now that is why madara can use wood release.
hashirama cannot calm the nine tails without force of his wood release.


even if hashirama is a medical ninja who can heal fast a meteor impact would beat him.

plus rep though

 

[Maunten]

what are talking about madara has hashirama dna so any younger son clan abilities that the younger son can have is what madara can have now that is why madara can use wood release.
hashirama cannot calm the nine tails without force of his wood release.


even if hashirama is a medical ninja who can heal fast a meteor impact would beat him.

plus rep though

Although madara has hashi KG there is nothing to say that madara can use all his techs, he did not use BOD after all.

Hashirama had to learn sealing techs, they are not in his DNA.

The sealing techs that he learnt were from the uzumaki, who allied with the senju against the uchiha.

The hokage survived the meteor, why can't hashi who has healing and protective abilities beyond theirs?

Ty for rep.

 

[Imperius]

we stil have to wait for hashirama to show his full potential, did you care if someone said hashiraa > madara before he got summoned? nope, did you care after madara showed feats? yep
same will be when hashirama shows feats

 

[slaton02]

same way he did last time, barrier seal the end. where's my plus rep

 

[Frikid]

omg! people still think Edo madara > hashi , when edo madara clearly said otherwise ?

Denying manga facts?:sy:

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

hashirama already beat perfect susano

you dont know what happened. no one does

The only reason why Madara is saying hasirama could be the only 1 to beat him is becuase he wants a real challenge and not waste his time with 5 pathetic kages at his merc

he jsut admitted kages arent pathetic and were worthy of PS in the first place.

Izanagi = Madara can replay a death, but lose and eye. Hashirama has INSTANT healing without seals

which worked so well for tsunade OH WAIT

Katon = Hashirama's Kekkei Genkai includes WATER RELEASE mastery.

no it doesnt.

Genjutsu = Hashirama has fought Madara and other Uchiha multiple times. They didnt have a rinnegan but they did have Sharigan/MS/EMS, so they had the ability to use Genjutsu

he only fought EMS like once, and rinnegan would enhance its power

Hashirama trained his sealing abilities

no he didnt

Hashi can also control tailed beasts like no other

wrong. yamato and madara can do it too and probably shisui

omg! people still think Edo madara > hashi , when edo madara clearly said otherwise ?

madaras opinion and he said hashirama is the ONLY one who can fight him. meaning if thats a fact then madaras fought every strong person ever and then concluded hashi was the only one who can stop him which is obviously false as he never fought or met minato/tobi/shisui/sage etc

 

[Thundercles]

if someone can actually give me proof that hashirama can beat edo rinnegan madara or list a scenario that is possible i will give you plus rep.

#1 Madara said himself that Hashi was the only person who could stop him.
#2 Hashi is good at seals, im sure he could seal Madara
#3 Hashi can control the tailed beasts. If he got a hold of them, then he could unleash them on him.
#4 Hashi is the one of the few who has the stamina to take Madara. His leet med nin and Mastery of Mokuton.

Yamato supresses them, not controls them. Madara has only been shown to control the 9 tails.

 

[Anorien16]

Using the Amber Sealing pot. Sadly its broken.