Proof that Third Kazekage > Third Raikage (Actual Explanation inside)

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Like I said nonthing will get threw besides air. Anything else won't make it threw

Raikage short on brains I wonder where u got this from?

kazekage don't have a chance at winning.
Iron Sand Particles do get through his mouth isn't microscopic meaning it would be inevitable breathing in the iron sand mist.

and Third Kazekage is pretty much a genius, the third raikage has no intelligence feats meaning tactics go straight the Third Kazekage.
 

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I like your point but i don't think the Third would use his lightning armour immediately meaning there is a opening at the beginning of the battle like when shown when he went up against Naruto.

+Rep for the demagnetize point
Thanks :) Just consider the possibility nothin more. Rai is brutish and Kaze is smart. Its all up to them after all.
 

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Thanks :) Just consider the possibility nothin more. Rai is brutish and Kaze is smart. Its all up to them after all.
Lol no problem i always rep intelligence and logic

However the clogging of the iron in the blood in a major blood vessel is still a big and potenial threat for the Third Raikage

I don't think that he can really stop that sort of technique
 

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can The Raikage Control what enters and what not??
How would he know if there r iron particles in the air he is breathing??
Iron gets in his blood I Dout that like I said the raikage will not stop attacking leaving the kazekage on his deffence till the battle ends kazekage won't have time to concentrate on making them that small..

I Dout he can even make his iron that small in the first place if he could I'm pretty sure sasori would have done so against Sakura..also kabuto knos everything about everyone he brings bac he knos all there moves if the third kazekage could make his iron so small kabuto would have done so

So I Dout he can do as u say wit his iron sand so in the end he loses big time.
 

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Iron gets in his blood I Dout that like I said the raikage will not stop attacking leaving the kazekage on his deffence till the battle ends kazekage won't have time to concentrate on making them that small..

I Dout he can even make his iron that small in the first place if he could I'm pretty sure sasori would have done so against Sakura..also kabuto knos everything about everyone he brings bac he knos all there moves if the third kazekage could make his iron so small kabuto would have done so

So I Dout he can do as u say wit his iron sand so in the end he loses big time.
1) Fourth Kazekage was brought back to life not the Third Kazekage

2) Sand itself is small enough and im sure the Third can make it smaller e.g. condensation

3) Kazekage can fly basically a constant defence

There is already iron in our blood, its in the hemoglobin
 

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Think of what magneto can do with his magnetism..

Use it to be air born! That alone makes it hard for the raikage to defeat him.

You add the fact that he can incase the raikage in a ball (like gaara's sand burial but much stronger) id say he could defeat him.
 

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1) Fourth Kazekage was brought back to life not the Third Kazekage

2) Sand itself is small enough and im sure the Third can make it smaller e.g. condensation

3) Kazekage can fly basically a constant defence

There is already iron in our blood, its in the hemoglobin
Iron in our blood so ain't like he can control it if so he would be very unstoppable so I Dout he can.

He can fly so Wat the raikage is fast he will be at him in no time.

Like I said sasori would have condense it in the fight wit Sakura an that old lady sence he did not I'm pretty sure the third kazekage could not do it.

If its chakara related its not going threw the third armor there is that a better way to put it
 

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Iron in our blood so ain't like he can control it if so he would be very unstoppable so I Dout he can.

He can fly so Wat the raikage is fast he will be at him in no time.

Like I said sasori would have condense it in the fight wit Sakura an that old lady sence he did not I'm pretty sure the third kazekage could not do it.

If its chakara related its not going threw the third armor there is that a better way to put it
Sasori didn't understand Iron sand to the same extent as the third not to mention his Magnet Release, its like controlling someone through edo tensei they're true spark won't shine through.
 

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Very good, thread very in depth. I think the Raikage has this though, as although the Kazekage has the range, The Third's defence is too powerful, and I am not sure the Kazekage would have the durability to take too many of his hits. Magnet release is OP but the Raikage's durability is what get him through this. The Kazekage could win because he would use iron sand better than Gaara's dad used gold dust but out of ten the Raikage would win more times
 
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Think of what magneto can do with his magnetism..

Use it to be air born! That alone makes it hard for the raikage to defeat him.

You add the fact that he can incase the raikage in a ball (like gaara's sand burial but much stronger) id say he could defeat him.
Incase the raikage in a ball explain how will his iron sand keep up wit the raikage speed..u can't trap him like that he gone punch threw it.

We seen the third kazekage attacks get beat by Sakura an a old lady...third raikage will push that iron sand to the side like its nonthing.
 

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Basically the Third Kazekage can use his sand to fly away and attack from range... Instant win. To tell you the truth though, we haven't seen much of the Kazekage for me to judge his fighting abilities and fighting style. It's just open for interpretation. Anyway, i'm gonna give you +rep for your good points, nice explanation and for the time it took you to write this : )
 

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Incase the raikage in a ball explain how will his iron sand keep up wit the raikage speed..u can't trap him like that he gone punch threw it.

We seen the third kazekage attacks get beat by Sakura an a old lady...third raikage will push that iron sand to the side like its nonthing.
That logic hurts my brain, its sooo bad

You do realize your underestimating one of 5 massive great forces of nature

Magnetism can't be pushed aside not to mention Iron sand is lethal


Did sasori ever say he did not understand it?
Yamato has wood release and yet he is far and i mean faaaaaaaaaaaaar from his standard because of the way he uses it

Overall it doesn't seem like a dangerous threat


Very good, thread very in depth. I think the Raikage has this though, as although the Kazekage has the range, The Third's defence is too powerful, and I am not sure the Kazekage would have the durability to take too many of his hits. Magnet release is OP but the Raikage's durability is what get him through this. The Kazekage could win because he would use iron sand better than Gaara's dad used gold dust but out of ten the Raikage would win more times
Lol Range wise this goes to the Third Kazekage, not to mention his sneak attacks of using iron sand particles to get into the Third Raikage's lungs and controlling the iron in his blood into one location causing a stroke.
 
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but you have to remember , the iron sand wont electrocute the raikage , but help the raikage if the sand is touching the raikage and kazekage on opposite ends , iron sand conducts electricity(presumably), not just that but if the 3rd is like gaara in the sense of close combat then he has already lost , i say this is evens as they could probably beat eachother to a bloody pulp in many different ways
 

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The Sandaime Raikage will destroy the Kazekage literally with one finger.
An incredible speed, an overwhelming offensive and a perfect defensive, he will tank all of the Kazekages attacks or dodge from them with his speed. This man faced the eight tails and fought an army of 10.000 Ninjas for 3 days, this man will crush the Kazekage.
 
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Third Kazekage vs Third Raikage

Third Kazekage's Profile (written by Negative Knight):


Third Raikage's Profile: (Written by Leoj of the Teinken)



Why the Third Kazekage is stronger than the Third Raikage ?


Hell Stab is said to be the signature move of the Third Raikage, a superior version of Chidori. By nature its a lightning physical attack that requires direct contact on the person you need to hit.

The Third Kazekage's Iron Armour Defense (ideal shape would be in a incomplete sphere which doesn't touch the ground but has an inside where the 3rd is safely touching the ground)

In scientific terms iron conducts electricity so the lighting for the Hell Stab would electrify the defense to a devastating voltage which would reflect the effects to the user of the Jutsu as the full circuit would circulate and hit the third raikage with his own attack.

Also this would make the defense even stronger as the Third Raikage took the liberty of adding a lethal electric fence.

The Third Raikage's lightning release armour could also act as a disadvantage to him as contact with the iron sand would just cause his own lighting armour to have the effect on which it has on his enemies.

Overall if the Third Kazekage were to disperse iron sand along the floor it would prevent the Third Raikage from using any of his lightning release techniques which make up for the large bulk of his ninjutsu.


Strengths and Weaknesses against Other Elements (Third Kazekage's Iron Sand)

Immunity to Fire Techniques - would become useless in the face of this apart from Madara and a few select other's techniques.

Immunity - Water would instead of soaking into it like with ordinary sand would just wipe off.

Immunity - Even the most powerful wind techniques won't do much damage, a hurricane vs a iron house?

Immunity - Earth wouldn't be strong enough to compete with the iron sand

Immunity against Lightning Melee Attacks as they would electrocute the users themselves

Weakness against Lightning Projectiles -The iron conducts lightning so the iron sand can't be touching him physically as a Armour otherwise it becomes like a electrified fence/cage.

Lightning also strengths the Third's Defense as it causes his shield to be literally untouchable as the lightning circulating around it would electrocute anyone who comes close

Also if you check the the spoiler tag above on the Third Kazekage's elemental strengths and weaknesses, you would see that whatever other chakra natures the third has would just back fire on him.

His Black Lightning his signature Kekkei Genkai (Storm Release) would also act as a burden because the Di-charged nature of water would mean it could complete a circuit on its own increasing the devastation of the Third's lightning techniques on himself.

The Third Kazekage's Iron Sand Bullets which are propelled by replusion of the Magnet Release technique could reach speed close to the Third's because of the nature of magnetism, and each hit could be electrocuting until the third's body is worn out by electrocution, not to mention no matter how hard his exterior his heart and brain can only take so much electrocution

Finally, the Third's theoretical technique of blood bending because of iron in the blood means that he's gonna leave before this battle begins...because we all know in the end which of the Kages is gonna win.



For those who didn't read basically The Third Raikage electrocutes himself over and over till his brain can't take it

Magneto >>>> Beast


Who do you guys think is stronger between these two Kages and give reasons?



I'm pretty sure raiton armour would prevent the Raikage from getting electrocuted, because it is like a susano. Lol and black lightning isn't storm release it's still lightning release and that could fry the Kazaekage. Lol
 

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I'm pretty sure raiton armour would prevent the Raikage from getting electrocuted, because it is like a susano. Lol and black lightning isn't storm release it's still lightning release and that could fry the Kazaekage. Lol
Lol yeah your probably right, but the iron sand particles used by the Kazekage can be used to suffocate the Third Raikage before he even realizes.

Yeah Storm release looks like a different technique just checked
 
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