Why do people keep saying that Sasuke is no match for current Naruto?

[ShiroT]

You know who writes the wiki?

There is more than one type of Genjustu.
Genjustu that alters the opponents reality.

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Paralysis Genjustu that temporarily disables the enemy.

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The genjustu that Itachi used was to alter reality for Bee and the 8 tails noticed this.
The paralysis gen dosent last long and it atacks the nervous system. Which is why the target cant move afterwards. Because bee has the Hachibi to help him he can get rid f the effect of the genjustu not the gen it self. If the hachibi released the genjustu bee would have never stopped moving.

he even said it in the video that he needs a partner to disturb his chakra to awaken him which would imply that he was still under the genjutsu

 

[Frikid]

There can be many reasons ...

HE was ill at the time ,
He is too old to do that. ( you see there is a large time gap between the two incidents)

or maybe The one controlling Yagura wasn't tobi but madara itself O.O (just a thought , xd )

Go back. I already did. U_U

You did ?? where ??

 

[ShiroT]

Do you know how many Shinobi where there to support Naruto!? Do you think they are just going to sit there while Madara suppresses Kurama w/o counter attacking? Also, Madara was fighting more than one opponent, therefore he was distracted.

Your counter argument also isn't really a good one because you are referencing a scenario that involved multiply enemies vs 1, instead of 1 vs 1.

And are you forgetting that Madara has been TOYING with every opponent he has fought? He obviously had NO intent to suppress Kurama

if your saying that if he could he wouldn't have tried to do it because he was distracted so if sasuke could(which he can't) we wouldn't be able to do it because he'd be in the middle of a fight which would distract him.

 

[MickNerks]

Do you know how many Shinobi where there to support Naruto!? Do you think they are just going to sit there while Madara suppresses Kurama w/o counter attacking? Also, Madara was fighting more than one opponent, therefore he was distracted.

Your counter argument also isn't really a good one because you are referencing a scenario that involved multiply enemies vs 1, instead of 1 vs 1.

And are you forgetting that Madara has been TOYING with every opponent he has fought? He obviously had NO intent to suppress Kurama

You just contradicted yourself, if he was toying with everyone, then he should have easily been able to supress kyubi mode.. He could have did it when he was on top of the mountain with Mu,.. But because he didnt my arguement is moreplausable then yours. Because that is the only other instense where EMS is against a jinchuriki, other than sasuke MS vs killer Bee.

 

[Οdin]

You did ?? where ??

You mean that? There's nothing to counter.

 

[TheSages456]

Have you read this thread? :sy:. Of course there are lot of Naruto fanboys but have you seen some of the guys defending Sasuke? I have said all along that Naruto and Sasuke are equal and will be in the end but BM put Naruto ahead of Sasuke for now . This is the general consensus but everyone else is wrong because MidKnight said so.

both sides have their share of retarded fanboys. i dont know why people think that sasuke can suppress narutos bijuu mode. at the beginning of shipudden he suppressed about 0.5% of the kyuubis chakra who was restricted to handing naruto tiny bits of chakra through a cage. there is no way in hell, he is suppressing all of kuramas chakra, especially since its unrestricted.

the naruto fanboys act like naruto is gonna make 1000000000000000+ kcm clones and is gonna blitz sasuke from all over the place. people dont know how clones work with bijuu mode naruto and its quite pathetic hearing naruto fanboys preach about his speed when it was obviously no problem for the edo jinchuriki or nagato. it was even stated that narutos movements were being seen through with their sharingan so i dont know why they think narutos gonna blitz sasuke and rasengan him.

 

[HugoStiglitz]

Have you read this thread? :sy:. Of course there are lot of Naruto fanboys but have you seen some of the guys defending Sasuke? I have said all along that Naruto and Sasuke are equal and will be in the end but BM put Naruto ahead of Sasuke for now . This is the general consensus but everyone else is wrong because MidKnight said so.

And herein lies our problem, at this point.

This thread should probably be locked, no? Otherwise we risk being told yet again that we are all failures and that if we do not repent and agree with Lord MidKnight, that we will all burn in eternal hellfire next to furries and Stephenie Meyer.

 

[MickNerks]

Sasuke Fanboys

We have countered your amaterasu arguments, just finished countering your genjutsu arguments, proved to Midknight that Shadow clones are still very effective (faster than spaming amatersu), and can easily counter susanoo argument.. Please stop now and save your dignity..

we have won already. we say so, and so do the polls.

 

[Frikid]

You mean that? There's nothing to counter.

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[ShiroT]

both sides have their share of retarded fanboys. i dont know why people think that sasuke can suppress narutos bijuu mode. at the beginning of shipudden he suppressed about 0.5% of the kyuubis chakra who was restricted to handing naruto tiny bits of chakra through a cage. there is no way in hell, he is suppressing all of kuramas chakra, especially since its unrestricted.

the naruto fanboys act like naruto is gonna make 1000000000000000+ kcm clones and is gonna blitz sasuke from all over the place. people dont know how clones work with bijuu mode naruto and its quite pathetic hearing naruto fanboys preach about his speed when it was obviously no problem for the edo jinchuriki or nagato. it was even stated that narutos movements were being seen through with their sharingan so i dont know why they think narutos gonna blitz sasuke and rasengan him.

he would adleast be fast enough to dodge anything life threatening

 

[Gooner4life]

And herein lies our problem, at this point.

This thread should probably be locked, no? Otherwise we risk being told yet again that we are all failures and that if we do not repent and agree with Lord MidKnight, that we will all burn in eternal hellfire next to furries and Stephenie Meyer.

Lol xd when I spread some more rep around I'll +rep you for that.

 

[Ninpou]

he even said it in the video that he needs a partner to disturb his chakra to awaken him which would imply that he was still under the genjutsu

Cee was hit by Sasuke Paralysis gen and he couldnt move but the genjustu isnt still going on is it?

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Replace Cee with Bee and Bee would recover in this situation because he has the Hachibi to release him from the effect.

 

[Zato]

that page doesn't prove that sasuke can suppress kurama

Well Sasuke has done it before earlier in the Manga and the 9tails was shocked that he could. Sasuke somehow entered Naruto's mind when Naruto was starting to transform and Sasuke suppressed the 9tails chakara. That's when the 9tails started to compare Sasuke to Madara. So if he was able to do it way back then, then logic pretty much tells you he can do it now but on a larger scale since his sharigan is a lot stronger. According to the 9tails, tailed beast are weak against sharigans. I'm pretty sure its not normal sharigans but MS/EMS.

 

[ShiroT]

Cee was hit by Sasuke Paralysis gen and he couldnt move but the genjustu isnt still going on is it?

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Replace Cee with Bee and Bee would recover in this situation because he has the Hachibi to release him from the effect.

that doesnt mean the genjutsu wore off or it could be that someone released it for him

 

[MickNerks]

both sides have their share of retarded fanboys. i dont know why people think that sasuke can suppress narutos bijuu mode. at the beginning of shipudden he suppressed about 0.5% of the kyuubis chakra who was restricted to handing naruto tiny bits of chakra through a cage. there is no way in hell, he is suppressing all of kuramas chakra, especially since its unrestricted.

the naruto fanboys act like naruto is gonna make 1000000000000000+ kcm clones and is gonna blitz sasuke from all over the place. people dont know how clones work with bijuu mode naruto and its quite pathetic hearing naruto fanboys preach about his speed when it was obviously no problem for the edo jinchuriki or nagato. it was even stated that narutos movements were being seen through with their sharingan so i dont know why they think narutos gonna blitz sasuke and rasengan him.

Though im not one of the people you saytalk abuot the 1000000000000+ kcm clones, i think when Hibachi noted the sharingan he was talking about regular movements. naruto hd not shown any great speed feats at that time of the battle.. Just a thought though. you can read if you want.

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[HugoStiglitz]

Lol xd when I spread some more rep around I'll +rep you for that.

The sad thing is, I fully endorse my former comment as 99.9% truth

 

[Οdin]

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All you said was that Tobi is too old to control/suppress Kurama. And you are wrong. The man was controlling 6-7 Bijuu. Your age argument is nothing but crap.

You also said that Madara was the one controlling Yagura. Also wrong. If he could control Yagura... then why didn't he control/suppress Kurama's chakra when he and Naruto faced each other? U_U

 

[ShiroT]

Well Sasuke has done it before earlier in the Manga and the 9tails was shocked that he could. Sasuke somehow entered Naruto's mind when Naruto was starting to transform and Sasuke suppressed the 9tails chakara. That's when the 9tails started to compare Sasuke to Madara. So if he was able to do it way back then, then logic pretty much tells you he can do it now but on a larger scale since his sharigan is a lot stronger. According to the 9tails, tailed beast are weak against sharigans. I'm pretty sure its not normal sharigans but MS/EMS.

logic would be that he can't suppress the whole f************ing kyuubi just because he pushed a tiny bit of chakra back through a seal, which is now gone U_U

 

[Ninpou]

that doesnt mean the genjutsu wore off or it could be that someone released it for him

Not sure who him refers to.
The genjustu stopped when Bee hit the floor, sameway it stopped when Cee hit the floor. Difference is Cee isnt a jinchuriki and has no one to release it for him.

 

[kral]

Well Sasuke has done it before earlier in the Manga and the 9tails was shocked that he could. Sasuke somehow entered Naruto's mind when Naruto was starting to transform and Sasuke suppressed the 9tails chakara. That's when the 9tails started to compare Sasuke to Madara. So if he was able to do it way back then, then logic pretty much tells you he can do it now but on a larger scale since his sharigan is a lot stronger. According to the 9tails, tailed beast are weak against sharigans. I'm pretty sure its not normal sharigans but MS/EMS.

Sauske didn't have Ms wen he supressee the chakra at orochimarus hideout. He wasn't seen with Ms till after the itachi fight. Also we havre seen no evidence that tobi has Ms.