Naruto's Rasenshuriken > Sasuke's Susanoo (Facts)

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MickNerks

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I know this has come up before but i wanted to put my own facts into it.

Rasenshuriken can destroy a susanoo and this is why.

Onoki destroyed Madara's Susanoo with Dust Release.

Now what do we know about Dust release:
- it is an advanced nature kekkei tōta, an advanced version of kekkei genkai, which is created through simultaneous use of the earth, wind, and fire natures. The techniques of this nature initially form as a small three-dimensional object (e.g. a cube, a cone, etc.) composed of chakra that forms between the user's hands. When the technique is released, the form expands and surrounds the target. This nature allows the user to manipulate molecules, giving them the ability to disintegrate anything on a molecular/cellular level within the boundaries of the three-dimensional form.

Here is an example:


If the video doesnt work here is the link

Now next we are gonna take a look at the Rasenshuriken:
- By manipulating the wind-natured chakra of the Wind Release: Rasengan, Naruto was able to create four large points, causing the Rasengan to take on the appearance of a giant fūma shuriken, with the Rasengan in the centre remaining a perfect sphere. The technique gives off a loud bell-like screech after being formed. The Rasenshuriken creates countless microscopic wind-blades that damage the body on a cellular level. The wind blades sever nerve channels in the body, leaving the target unable to move after being struck. They also attack the chakra circulatory system, which cannot be repaired by any form of medical ninjutsu. This allows him to throw it at his opponents, and removes the threat of damaging himself with the technique. Another improvement is that the shuriken now expands after it has been thrown, compensating for imprecise aim or fleeing opponents by widening the area of effect.

Here is and example:
Go to 1:20

Now that we have establised that they both work at a cellular level we can now deduce that rasenshuriken works equally well as a jinton to destroy a susanoo. But there are still those who will say you havent shown me enough evidence. So now i will show you another technique that works at a cellular level to destroy susanoo slowly.

:33 seconds

As you can see the acid mist destroys the osteocytes of the susanoo bone which begins to disintegrate it. STARTING AT A CELLULAR LEVEL. Hopefully you now begin to understand that susanoo can be destroyed at a cellular level..

Some will say that sasukes susanoo has armour on it. This makes no diffrence. Because we have already shown that these attacks are cellular.

Now this will hopefully allow most to see that sasuke using susanoo against naruto will prove to be ineffective as naruto can destroy it. And if he is caught with RS it is the end of him b/c as said earlier it will paralyze you so that you cant move, which means you will take all the attack.

Sasukes best bet is Blaze releaze, but facts also suggest that naruto is faster that amaterasu.
Many will try to debate this theory but this is why you are wrong also:

A (raikage) dodged amaterasu, Naruto dodged A (raikage), so naruto can dodge amaterasu..

This is all i wanted to say. I hope this encourages people to see that at this point in the manga it would be very hard for sasuke to challenge naruto.


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I don't think so.
 

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It would made damage but not destroy it.
 

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I honestly agree with you, but what if Jinton destroyed the Susano'o based upon its strength, not the fact that is destroys on the cellular level?
 

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Molecules are much smaller than cells you fool.
 

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why not



if Mei's acid mist stated to destroy it the once RS starts its gone and sasuke is gone.

it melted it!, "MELTED" understood and Rs is just gonna hit susanno and just spin around there
You spin my head right round, right round
When you go down, when you go down down
You spin my head right round, right round
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I know this has come up before but i wanted to put my own facts into it.

Rasenshuriken can destroy a susanoo and this is why.

Onoki destroyed Madara's Susanoo with Dust Release.

Now what do we know about Dust release:
- it is an advanced nature kekkei tōta, an advanced version of kekkei genkai, which is created through simultaneous use of the earth, wind, and fire natures. The techniques of this nature initially form as a small three-dimensional object (e.g. a cube, a cone, etc.) composed of chakra that forms between the user's hands. When the technique is released, the form expands and surrounds the target. This nature allows the user to manipulate molecules, giving them the ability to disintegrate anything on a molecular/cellular level within the boundaries of the three-dimensional form.

Here is an example:


If the video doesnt work here is the link

Now next we are gonna take a look at the Rasenshuriken:
- By manipulating the wind-natured chakra of the Wind Release: Rasengan, Naruto was able to create four large points, causing the Rasengan to take on the appearance of a giant fūma shuriken, with the Rasengan in the centre remaining a perfect sphere. The technique gives off a loud bell-like screech after being formed. The Rasenshuriken creates countless microscopic wind-blades that damage the body on a cellular level. The wind blades sever nerve channels in the body, leaving the target unable to move after being struck. They also attack the chakra circulatory system, which cannot be repaired by any form of medical ninjutsu. This allows him to throw it at his opponents, and removes the threat of damaging himself with the technique. Another improvement is that the shuriken now expands after it has been thrown, compensating for imprecise aim or fleeing opponents by widening the area of effect.

Here is and example:
Go to 1:20

Now that we have establised that they both work at a cellular level we can now deduce that rasenshuriken works equally well as a jinton to destroy a susanoo. But there are still those who will say you havent shown me enough evidence. So now i will show you another technique that works at a cellular level to destroy susanoo slowly.

:33 seconds

As you can see the acid mist destroys the osteocytes of the susanoo bone which begins to disintegrate it. STARTING AT A CELLULAR LEVEL. Hopefully you now begin to understand that susanoo can be destroyed at a cellular level..

Some will say that sasukes susanoo has armour on it. This makes no diffrence. Because we have already shown that these attacks are cellular.

Now this will hopefully allow most to see that sasuke using susanoo against naruto will prove to be ineffective as naruto can destroy it. And if he is caught with RS it is the end of him b/c as said earlier it will paralyze you so that you cant move, which means you will take all the attack.

Sasukes best bet is Blaze releaze, but facts also suggest that naruto is faster that amaterasu.
Many will try to debate this theory but this is why you are wrong also:

A (raikage) dodged amaterasu, Naruto dodged A (raikage), so naruto can dodge amaterasu..


This is all i wanted to say. I hope this encourages people to see that at this point in the manga it would be very hard for sasuke to challenge naruto.


:scorps:

Jinton is molecular, RS is cellular. good thread though, and I find myself agreeing.

@ underlined: Although I believe this statement to be true, just because A>B doesn't mean A>C. (For future reference :) )

Edit: When i say underlined, i mean the naruto dodging amaterasu part.
 

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for one he hit the clone sussono . second onki jinton is on a whole another level then shurken justsu (hence 3 natures to 2)
 

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Sometimes manga logic and real world logic don't mix. Susanoo doesn't have cells as far as I know. No form of Rasengan is breaking Susanoo.
 

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it melted it!, "MELTED" understood and Rs is just gonna hit susanno and just spin around there
You spin my head right round, right round
When you go down, when you go down down
(Ke$ha)
You spin my head right round, right round
When you go down, when you go down down

ok scientifically acid doesnt melt things.. Acid are a high concentration solution of hydrogen ions, that break things down.. They are heat that melts things..
 

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No just no. Raikage is faster than Naruto and Dust Release is stronger than Rasenshuriken.
 

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Thats why i used mei's acid to back my theory up fool.lol

Acidic mist destoys things on a molecular level, who told you it targets single cells? The burning is a chemical reaction between the molecules of the mist and molecules of the susano. FOOL
 

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It would take more than one though.
 

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Jinton is molecular, RS is cellular. good thread though, and I find myself agreeing.

@ underlined: Although I believe this statement to be true, just because A>B doesn't mean A>C. (For future reference :) )

Edit: When i say underlined, i mean the naruto dodging amaterasu part.

I know. i am also aware of the a>b>c logic problem.. speed was diffrent though

for one he hit the clone sussono . second onki jinton is on a whole another level then shurken justsu (hence 3 natures to 2)

rasenshuriken is 1 nature and clones are still the same as original..


Sometimes manga logic and real world logic don't mix. Susanoo doesn't have cells as far as I know. No form of Rasengan is breaking Susanoo.

Real world logic works, and until anyone proves other wise thats all we have to use.. just saying that it wont cant prove to me that it wont.
 

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Stage 2 Susano'o will survive Rasen Shurikens
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Acidic mist destoys things on a molecular level, who told you it targets single cells? The burning is a chemical reaction between the molecules of the mist and molecules of the susano. FOOL

haha your pretty smart. though we have seen that susanoo is formed in the same way as humans.. bone, muscle, skin, clothes.. rasenshuriken targets cells and nerves.. osteocytes are bone cells, if it breaks them apart then it can still break it down.

Stage 2 Susano'o will survive Rasen Shurikens
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this doesnt have anything to do with rasenshuriken.. thoses attack dont work on a physical level.. and rasenshuriken destroyed a mountain, those jutsu have no such feats.
 
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