Naruto's Rasenshuriken > Sasuke's Susanoo (Facts)

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ok came down naruto fanboy rasenshuriken would never destory sasuke susanoo it couldn't destory damage kakuzu how the **** is it going to going destory susanoo it called the ulitmate defense and if you want in example watch naruto shippuden ulimate ninja storm generation sasuke opening sasuke two hands susanoo just bitch slap naruto rasenshriken all i say is son troll
 

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I know. i am also aware of the a>b>c logic problem.. speed was diffrent though



rasenshuriken is 1 nature and clones are still the same as original..




Real world logic works, and until anyone proves other wise thats all we have to use.. just saying that it wont cant prove to me that it wont.

If all real world logic always applied genjutsu would have never worked on the raikage, Itachi would have never reacted against Lightning etc. Although Rasenshuriken hits on the celluar level won't effect Susanoo since it has no cells to begin with. Acid is suppose to melt things and dust release turns things to dust.
 

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haha your pretty smart. though we have seen that susanoo is formed in the same way as humans.. bone, muscle, skin, clothes.. rasenshuriken targets cells and nerves.. osteocytes are bone cells, if it breaks them apart then it can still break it down.



this doesnt have anything to do with rasenshuriken.. thoses attack dont work on a physical level.. and rasenshuriken destroyed a mountain, those jutsu have no such feats.

I won't get involved in this thread ur the same guy that said Gaara was the strongest kage
 

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haha your pretty smart. though we have seen that susanoo is formed in the same way as humans.. bone, muscle, skin, clothes.. rasenshuriken targets cells and nerves.. osteocytes are bone cells, if it breaks them apart then it can still break it down.



this doesnt have anything to do with rasenshuriken.. thoses attack dont work on a physical level.. and rasenshuriken destroyed a mountain, those jutsu have no such feats.

Clothes and amour have cells?
 

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ok came down naruto fanboy rasenshuriken would never destory sasuke susanoo it couldn't destory damage kakuzu how the **** is it going to going destory susanoo it called the ulitmate defense and if you want in example watch naruto shippuden ulimate ninja storm generation sasuke opening sasuke two hands susanoo just bitch slap naruto rasenshriken all i say is son troll

ur taking about the resenshuriken used on kakazu which wasnt as powerful as the one he used against pein.. it was improved when he fought pein and it completely distroyed the girl paths body. (there was nothing left).. please dont cite a video game..

re-think your arguement
 

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I won't get involved in this thread ur the same guy that said Gaara was the strongest kage

yes i am.. but in that thread people were able to change my outlook on it. now i know he isnt the strongest.
 

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We have yet to see what attack can destroy a full Susano'o, i mean Susano'o tanked Kirin an attack i feel is stronger than FRS.
 

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We have yet to see what attack can destroy a full Susano'o, i mean Susano'o tanked Kirin an attack i feel is stronger tha FRS.

This is true.. though karin is the only attack weve every seen on a full
 

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no they dont.. they are materials.. depending on the force against them they can break, crack, or be destroyed.

Due to this, I say Susanoo tanks FRS because most of its damage is on a cellular level.
 

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Due to this, I say Susanoo tanks FRS because most of its damage is on a cellular level.

he did destroy a mountain with it.


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looks kinda like what madara did to the mountain... thats not just destruction at a cellular thats physical too
 
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Dust release is far stronger the RS. RS will damage Susanoo but it will not destroy it. The more Sasuke raises his chakara, the more armor it gets it seems.
 

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Dust release is far stronger the RS. RS will damage Susanoo but it will not destroy it. The more Sasuke raises his chakara, the more armor it gets it seems.

damage is damage.. if just one cell blade gets through then its over.
 

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damage is damage.. if just one cell blade gets through then its over.

Sorry but its not happening. The 3rd Raikage is somewhat proof of this. When he got hit by Naruto's RS it only left scratches on him. But when the 3rd Raikage got his by his own lightning attack it went straight through him. Tsunade was able to break the ribcage of Susanoo but when Madara started using a more complete Susanoo Tsunade could no longer break through them. She had to use the actual shards of Susanoo that she chipped off from the Susanoo sword just to pierce it. The 4th Raikages lightning attacks couldn't even pierce Susanoo so that tells you what? Now that Sasuke has EMS, his chakara has most likely become even more powerful which means his Susanoo will become more powerful since Susanoo is based off his chakara in the first place. The more chakara Sasuke puts into his Susanoo then the harder its shell becomes.
 

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We have yet to see what attack can destroy a full Susano'o, i mean Susano'o tanked Kirin an attack i feel is stronger than FRS.

Itachi's susanoo has the yata mirror so it could probably tank a TBB as well, sasuke's susanoo is different and weaker.
 

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I know this has come up before but i wanted to put my own facts into it.

Rasenshuriken can destroy a susanoo and this is why.

Onoki destroyed Madara's Susanoo with Dust Release.

Now what do we know about Dust release:
- it is an advanced nature kekkei tōta, an advanced version of kekkei genkai, which is created through simultaneous use of the earth, wind, and fire natures. The techniques of this nature initially form as a small three-dimensional object (e.g. a cube, a cone, etc.) composed of chakra that forms between the user's hands. When the technique is released, the form expands and surrounds the target. This nature allows the user to manipulate molecules, giving them the ability to disintegrate anything on a molecular/cellular level within the boundaries of the three-dimensional form.

Here is an example:


If the video doesnt work here is the link

Now next we are gonna take a look at the Rasenshuriken:
- By manipulating the wind-natured chakra of the Wind Release: Rasengan, Naruto was able to create four large points, causing the Rasengan to take on the appearance of a giant fūma shuriken, with the Rasengan in the centre remaining a perfect sphere. The technique gives off a loud bell-like screech after being formed. The Rasenshuriken creates countless microscopic wind-blades that damage the body on a cellular level. The wind blades sever nerve channels in the body, leaving the target unable to move after being struck. They also attack the chakra circulatory system, which cannot be repaired by any form of medical ninjutsu. This allows him to throw it at his opponents, and removes the threat of damaging himself with the technique. Another improvement is that the shuriken now expands after it has been thrown, compensating for imprecise aim or fleeing opponents by widening the area of effect.

Here is and example:
Go to 1:20

Now that we have establised that they both work at a cellular level we can now deduce that rasenshuriken works equally well as a jinton to destroy a susanoo. But there are still those who will say you havent shown me enough evidence. So now i will show you another technique that works at a cellular level to destroy susanoo slowly.

:33 seconds

As you can see the acid mist destroys the osteocytes of the susanoo bone which begins to disintegrate it. STARTING AT A CELLULAR LEVEL. Hopefully you now begin to understand that susanoo can be destroyed at a cellular level..

Some will say that sasukes susanoo has armour on it. This makes no diffrence. Because we have already shown that these attacks are cellular.

Now this will hopefully allow most to see that sasuke using susanoo against naruto will prove to be ineffective as naruto can destroy it. And if he is caught with RS it is the end of him b/c as said earlier it will paralyze you so that you cant move, which means you will take all the attack.

Sasukes best bet is Blaze releaze, but facts also suggest that naruto is faster that amaterasu.
Many will try to debate this theory but this is why you are wrong also:

A (raikage) dodged amaterasu, Naruto dodged A (raikage), so naruto can dodge amaterasu..

This is all i wanted to say. I hope this encourages people to see that at this point in the manga it would be very hard for sasuke to challenge naruto.


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I was kinda worried about the onoki point because his works on an atomic level, some could argue that onoki's can defeat susanoo and rasenshurikan can't because atomic level attacks > cellular attacks.

Fortunately you tied that up with mist tech.

I also theorise the susanoo defense, is linked to sharingan perception, it is made from two eye techs, amaterasu which requires you to focus on your target and tsukuyomi, or at lower levels "sharingan genjutsu", which requires you make eye contact with your enemy.

Since sharingan can not follow an attack as densely packed as rasenshuriken it may stand to reason that the attacks are numerous enough, fast enough and condensed enough to penetrate susanoo armor.

Enjoy the rep.

PS

Nice amaterasu argument.
 
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Well based on your reasoning jiton which is fire + earth + wind = to wind rasen shurinken which is the highest posibble chakra manipulation + wind element and no just no susukeDidn t repair his susanoo because he had no chakra but remember what happened after zetsu gave him chakra he repaired his susanoo and broke the wall so your logic fail
 

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Sorry but its not happening. The 3rd Raikage is somewhat proof of this. When he got hit by Naruto's RS it only left scratches on him. But when the 3rd Raikage got his by his own lightning attack it went straight through him. Tsunade was able to break the ribcage of Susanoo but when Madara started using a more complete Susanoo Tsunade could no longer break through them. She had to use the actual shards of Susanoo that she chipped off from the Susanoo sword just to pierce it. The 4th Raikages lightning attacks couldn't even pierce Susanoo so that tells you what? Now that Sasuke has EMS, his chakara has most likely become even more powerful which means his Susanoo will become more powerful since Susanoo is based off his chakara in the first place. The more chakara Sasuke puts into his Susanoo then the harder its shell becomes.

Wrong!!!! The third raikages body is the ultimate defense in itself, the ONLY thing that can hurt it is his own technique.. the rest of your theory had nothing to do with rasenshuriken or cellular attacks, so i cant take them into consideration. Just because sasuke has more chakra doesnt mean his susanoo is stronger, but it could mean that he can sustain it longer.

Dude it's a miniature bijuu bomb explosion of super dense chakra.

YES!

Itachi's susanoo has the yata mirror so it could probably tank a TBB as well, sasuke's susanoo is different and weaker.

YES!!

I was kinda worried about the onoki point because his works on an atomic level, some could argue that onoki's can defeat susanoo and rasenshurikan can't because atomic level attacks > cellular attacks.

Fortunately you tied that up with mist tech.

I also theorise the susanoo defense, is linked to sharingan perception, it is made from two eye techs, amaterasu which requires you to focus on your target and tsukuyomi, or at lower levels "sharingan genjutsu", which requires you make eye contact with your enemy.

Since sharingan can not follow an attack as densely packed as rasenshuriken it may stand to reason that the attacks are numerous enough, fast enough and condensed enough to penetrate susanoo armor.

Enjoy the rep.

PS

Nice amaterasu argument.

Thanks!!xd

Well based on your reasoning jiton which is fire + earth + wind = to wind rasen shurinken which is the highest posibble chakra manipulation + wind element and no just no susukeDidn t repair his susanoo because he had no chakra but remember what happened after zetsu gave him chakra he repaired his susanoo and broke the wall so your logic fail

what???:confused: what does zetsu repairing his susanoo have to do with anything??

I agree. +rep

Thanks so muchxd
 
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