Is Tobi's warping technique really that great?

[ShishaMastah420]

This doesn't prove anything. Kyuubi was already supressed so nothing amazing Sasuke did there. Try doing taht to a released Bijuu working together with the jinchuuriki.

This proves nothing?How about the fact that Sasuke was ale to enter Naruto's subconscious and suppress Kurama back into his Cage?

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[Invsblphntm]

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Sasuke, who we can both agree has less Mastery of the Sharingan than Tobi, was able to enter Naruto's subconscious and suppress Kurama. Imagine what Tobi can do...

You ignored the important part. Now that Naruto is a perfect jinchuriki, there is nothing to suppress to. Perfect jinchuriki don't have seals holding their biju back. You can't suppress a perfect jinchuriki, only reason Sasuke could do that to Naruto was because he still had the Kyuubi sealed, now he can't be suppressed.

 

[Djokovic]

This proves nothing?How about the fact that Sasuke was ale to enter Naruto's subconscious and suppress Kurama back into his Cage?

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Sorry, but Naruto did nothing and stood there. Kyuubi was already supressed by the seal so no big deal.

 

[Οdin]

This proves nothing?How about the fact that Sasuke was ale to enter Naruto's subconscious and suppress Kurama back into his Cage?

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No. Sasuke suppressed a small portion of Kurama's chakra. And Naruto is a Perfect Jinchuriki now - very different from before.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

You ignored the important part. Now that Naruto is a perfect jinchuriki, there is nothing to suppress to. Perfect jinchuriki don't have seals holding their biju back. You can't suppress a perfect jinchuriki, only reason Sasuke could do that to Naruto was because he still had the Kyuubi sealed, now he can't be suppressed.

Sorry, but Naruto did nothing and stood there. Kyuubi was already supressed by the seal so no big deal.

No. Sasuke suppressed a small portion of Kurama's chakra. And Naruto is a Perfect Jinchuriki now - very different from before.

No Dude...No
Tobi has Chakra Chains dude, stop thinking about Naruto vs Sasuke... Think about Tobi's Mastery of the Sharingan and what the Sharingan is capable of, I only presented Sasuke suppressing Kurama for credibility...

This is about Tobi...What he can do...

 

[abhiraj]

Tobispawn is making threads how Tobi can simply warp Madara away and it's game over. There are several things that are still bugging me about this technique.

We should get a closer look at Konan vs Tobi battle. Tobi said Konan was planning to suicide by letting Tobi warp her in. Tobi said after warping some of the explosions he felt a little impact. This means that even in his own dimension the opponents he sucks in can be troublesome. This also explains why he didn't warp any jinchuuriki away, because it's simply too dangerous for Tobi. There is also a nother reason why Tobi didn't warp any jinchuuriki or high level Sharingan user. Tobi warps his opponent away and then paralyzes them with his sharingan, in other words he casts a genjutsu and tames them. It's a simillar genjutsu Madara used on A who was saved seconds later by Tsuchikage. This is how he held Fuu and Torune hostage. Now you see this won't work against any perfect jinchiruuki nor high level Uchiha user like Madara, Itachi and Sasuke.
He won't be able to tame them and would take a huge risk warping them away. This makes perfect sense why he hasn't warped any of the people that I've mentioned above.
What do you think?




Sasuke was barely alive.... and he was working with Tobi.

He felt the explosions because to warp something/someone he has to solidify himself

 

[Οdin]

No Dude...No
Tobi has Chakra Chains dude, stop thinking about Naruto vs Sasuke... Think about Tobi's Mastery of the Sharingan and what the Sharingan is capable of, I only presented Sasuke suppressing Kurama for credibility...

This is about Tobi...What he can do...

What can Tobi do against Naruto? Don't you think he would have done anything by now if he could...?

 

[ShishaMastah420]

What can Tobi do against Naruto? Don't you think he would have done anything by now if he could...?

You mean besides the Fact that; it wasn't time to Capture Kurama? or It wasn't the time for Tobi to face Naruto?

 

[Οdin]

You mean besides the Fact that; it wasn't time to Capture Kurama? or It wasn't the time for Tobi to face Naruto?

Answer the question: Now that Naruto has become a Perfect Jinchuriki, do you think Tobi's Sharingan will have an effect on Naruto?

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Answer the question: Now that Naruto has become a Perfect Jinchuriki, do you think Tobi's Sharingan will have an effect on Naruto?

I have no idea, this is not a question that neither of us are capable of answering, We have not seen the full extents of Tobi's Sharingan, we have seen some Major feats such as him being able to control Kurama and him controlling the Fourth Mizukage but i highly doubt these are the full extent of his powers.

Also we have not seen a Perfect Jinchuuriki up against a Sharingan Master...

 

[Ngylle]

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[Οdin]

I have no idea, this is not a question that neither of us are capable of answering, We have not seen the full extents of Tobi's Sharingan, we have seen some Major feats such as him being able to control Kurama and him controlling the Fourth Mizukage but i highly doubt these are the full extent of his powers.

Also we have not seen a Perfect Jinchuuriki up against a Sharingan Master...

1. Tobi controlling Kurama is different from controlling a Perfect Jinchuriki.

2. It is believed that the Fourth Mizukage was controlled by Kotoamatsukami.

3. Sasuke used his Tsukuyomi agains Bee, but Hachibi released it.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

1. Tobi controlling Kurama is different from controlling a Perfect Jinchuriki.

2. It is believed that the Fourth Mizukage was controlled by Kotoamatsukami.

3. Sasuke used his Tsukuyomi agains Bee, but Hachibi released it.

1. Isn't a Perfect Jinchuuriki two parts, the Jinchuuriki and the Tailed Beast?
If he can definatly for a fact control both part of the two...You can't put 2 and 2 together?
2. By whom? Kishi didn't say so... So i don't see how it is Believed to be so...
3.LOL? Point?

Dude you seem to be a TuffSkull for no reason, you aren't doing anything to help your argument at all, which at this point i've completely forgotten.

Let me break it down for you, if Tobi can someone stop the Tailed Beast from dispelling his Genjutsu casted upon a Jinchuuriki. He can beat a Perfect Jinchuuriki... How might he be able to do this? Well, we've seen that Sharingan Users can enter the subconsciousness of Jinchuuriki without much difficultly and we also know that in Tobi's pocket dimension he can cast Genjutsu without Eye-Contact, so putting two and two together. It is Plausible.

I'm not saying Tobi will be able to beat a Perfect sync of Naruto and Kurama, i'm not specifying anything, I am simply trying to give you a general statement based on truths, such as Tobi is capable of controlling a Perfect Jinchuuriki...

The above backs my idea that Tobi can warp a Jinchuuriki....Somewhere else i gave backings for the High level Sharingan user part, find it yourself.

 

[Οdin]

1. Isn't a Perfect Jinchuuriki two parts, the Jinchuuriki and the Tailed Beast?
If he can definatly for a fact control both part of the two...You can't put 2 and 2 together?
2. By whom? Kishi didn't say so... So i don't see how it is Believed to be so...
3.LOL? Point?

Dude you seem to be a TuffSkull for no reason, you aren't doing anything to help your argument at all, which at this point i've completely forgotten.

Let me break it down for you, if Tobi can someone stop the Tailed Beast from dispelling his Genjutsu casted upon a Jinchuuriki. He can beat a Perfect Jinchuuriki... How might he be able to do this? Well, we've seen that Sharingan Users can enter the subconsciousness of Jinchuuriki without much difficultly and we also know that in Tobi's pocket dimension he can cast Genjutsu without Eye-Contact, so putting two and two together. It is Plausible.

I'm not saying Tobi will be able to beat a Perfect sync of Naruto and Kurama, i'm not specifying anything, I am simply trying to give you a general statement based on truths, such as Tobi is capable of controlling a Perfect Jinchuuriki...

The above backs my idea that Tobi can warp a Jinchuuriki....Somewhere else i gave backings for the High level Sharingan user part, find it yourself.

This is nothing but speculation. I'm just going to wait and see what happens in the manga.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

This is nothing but speculation. I'm just going to wait and see what happens in the manga.

How do you discuss something without Speculating?
How do you call facts a conjecture?

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[Οdin]

How do you discuss something without Speculating?
How do you call facts a conjecture?

Haha! You should have said Alt + F4. It closes the entire browser.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Haha! You should have said Alt + F4. It closes the entire browser.

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[Οdin]

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Hey, it is how it is. I am entitled to my opinion... just like you are.

 

[TobisPawn]

Because if a little tag explosive can leave an inpact on Tobi can you imagine what Kyuubi or Perfect Sasuno would do?

The explosive tags were preset because Konan had full intel on his techs and knew exactly how to counter them. That, and she was the one who went on the offense.

I think its a great technique, but you won't win a battle against top tier Uchihas or perfect jinchuurikis by just simply teleporting them away. Minato would be screwed and so would Konan.

Well Minato would have been screwed if he didn't have FTG. And same with Konan if she didn't have intel on his techs (probably).

I don't know if Tobi could ever restrain EMS Sasuke with just his regular sharingan, seems impossible for me. Tobi won't take that risk. Imagine what Susano would do if a simple explosion caused some impact?

Well he did restrain a perfect Jinchuuriki with his regular Sharingan (Yagura) for a couple years(?)

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Everyone who says "this person can win all he has to do is...." Is a fool one hit kill techs will almost always work against fodders but top class shinobi's will have ways of counter these techs and not getting in them