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So ive been reading the hottest forums thread or w/e there called right.
Ive notice alot of this.
"Itachi isnt OP" and alot of "itachi is being underrated"
Were do people get either of these ideas from itachi was a balanced caracter whos powers were met with a flaw leaving him in the middle. Itachi can hang with the top tiered characters in the manga for a while but if a fight becomes drawn out he will lose. Im not sayin that he will get destroyed by choji but realistically itachi is not underrated or OP he has decent strength and few weaknesses but the weaknesss are very debilitating. His lack of huge amounts of chakra limit the number of time he can use these "one shot" jutsu that can all be dodged or avoided completely he stated it him self all jutsu have a weakness none of them are perfect. Genjutsu have limited range and useually require contact with the person it will be used against and if the person has the ability to disrupt there own chakra or have a tailed beast then it is almost useless to use one on them. Sasunoo is extremely pro but obviously they are not the strongest things ever. Ive read alot of people countering tailed beast mode naruto with sasukes or itachis sasunoo. It weird that people would still think they can with stand naruto in that mode considering that in manga 589 page five madara clearly states that the only possible thing comparible to that power is a bijuu so id like someone to explain how sasuke imperfect sasunoo will beat a bijuu if a bijuu is as strong if not stronger than perfect sasunoo cuz i dont understna dhow to get to that conslusion. Black flames has been proven to be able to be dodgedm Raikage dodged it so by logic minato and naruto can also dodge it along with anyone using a s/t jutsu (tobi, 2nd hokage) and it uses great amounts of chakra and consentration. Also im not sure if i mentioned it but sasunoo also uses loads of chakra and the only reason itachi is able to hold it up for so long is becuase of the near infinite chakra and stamina given to him by the Edo.

Ive also read alot of.
Pein is stronger than Hashirama and Madara.
I dont see how people get to this conslusion considering that naruto is able to destory almost all of peins bodys almost single handely and all of em were destoryed by sage mode and the last one was hit by a rasengan. On that note naruto at this point is climing the latter in intellegence in the manga but i still believe minato, hashirama, madara, and some other hokage to be smarter or at least as smart. So if you people believe that a 16-18 yro ninja with little control over his chakra or tailed beast (at the time of pein fight) is stronger than veteran ninja with perfect chakra control and abilities that end wars in an instant then you need to sit an reason why that cannot be possible (at the time of the pein fight). Also pein during the time when he went beast mode was edo mode meaning that he was given moe chakra and stamina even the rennin has its limits and we know that chubaku tensei (i think thats what it is called) uses a lot of chakra and can bring nagatao to his knees with that being said if he wasnt a edo he would need to regenerate his chakra and madara or hashirama would have the time to take him out during that period. Nagato is a speacial ninja he also inst OP he is fairly balanced (less balanced then itachi though) he can use planet destoring moves the ablity to use multiple chakra types suck chakra up a master tyjutsu body and several other bodies with special techniqiues. But with those powers come disablity huge chakra draw and inexperience. If nagato had more experience and knew how to mix chkra natures and such it would have made him OP but he just had a lot of chakra.

Then this one is my favorite which has been being said for a while now.
Sasuke is stronger than naruto.

I dont see how this even was stated expspecially since people state that hashirama is being overrated becuase we have not seen any "Feats" but they state that naruto is weaker than sasuke and sasuke hasnet done anything since he got ems but shoot and arrow and make a sword while naruto since the wa has started fought multiple hokage and tailed beast and is still standing. Sasuke was having a hard time with orokabuto sage mode. Naruto has literally defended against 2 hokage (and won) and fended off 6 tailed beast in bijuu mode and as jinchiurikii in continious battle for 2 days.
Its also funny becuase these same people will state that sasuke is better becuase he can control bijuu becuase of sharingan which has only showed nine tailes without a host being controled (it was extracted when the seal was at its weakest point............) and a jinchirkii being controled but we know that they were not bonded the was naruo and kurama are which makes a huge difference. the reason i say that is funny becuase these are the same people that will call speculation when people state other things mentioned in the manga about the hokages in particular hashirama. Hashirama is even stated by madara to be the strongest ninja ever alive (and at this point madara seems to be the strongest ninja ever seen) and this is madara with sharingan and rinnen stating that hashirama is the only person stronger than him.

My point is when it comes to nagato and itachi people should stop making threads stating that other people are overrating him or underrating him he is perfectly balanced. They should stop with the threads stating that nagato is a beast and no ninja dead or alive is stronger than him becuase he was an edo with unlimited stamina and chakra and wasnt disabled. They should realize that they need to be constent in the way they rate characters becuase accepting sasuke is stronger than naruto becuase of an unproven sharingan technque is ridiculous when your going to call speculation when the manga states something and then say prove it.

Maybe this thread will amke things worse but at this point im upset at the amount of people that dont be consistent and use logic when doing their reasoning.

p.s. srry for the spelling mistakes and or grammer mistakes.
 
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Itachi and Nagato seem pretty OP to me, but you are right the threads are getting annoying. I think you tried to tackle too much in one thread. Just my opinion.

Yeah Itachi's Stamina sucks, and Nagato lacks mobility >_>

OT: Nice points, I agree on some and I disagree on others :p
I don't think those drawbacks are enough to balance them but at least Kishi is trying xd
 

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Its not like we are comparing regular people. The lack of stamina in the ninja world can get you killed in an instant. Itachi can only use these techniques so often and same goes for nagato he is immobile which means he must use more chakra than usual to keep in a fight which can be debilitating if taken advantage of properly but if you dont see that as a major disadvantage then what can i do?
 

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Next time ill do em in a three part thread, the detail and manga links. Well assuming that there is another 20 chapters of manga left..(so that people can come up with more ridiculous thoughs about the naruto series)
 
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