Muu or Oonoki are the strongest Kages ever.

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Oh, how I wish my favorite character would be the strongest Kage. But even I know that he isn't.

I mean come on, are you serious? Hashirama < Mū?
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Mu could definitely beat Hashi.. with Mid difficulty. Hashi has nothing to stop dust release.

Look past the hype dude.

And get another dudes face off your sig and avatar... :|
 

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not true, wasn't enough to stop the troll kage and jokiboy
 

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Gai beat Kisame but in no way is Gay stronger than Kisame.

Feel me?

jus saying that evidently his invisibility is overrated, and there are ways around dust release, basically they're not the strongest imo
 

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Madara wasn't a Kage but he lost to a Kage who this thread maker claim to defeated by Dust Release

Mokuton isn't going to stop dust release.

jus saying that evidently his invisibility is overrated, and there are ways around dust release, basically they're not the strongest imo

Yeah there is one way of getting around it, not being there in the first place.

btw you cant attack something you can't see
 

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Hmmm, EMS Madara easily defeated Muu and Oonoki by toying with them.
Yet he had to use the nine tails to stand on even ground with hashi. If Muu or Oonoki were more powerful, why did he toy and beat them? yet go all out and lose to hashi? Characters are hyped up for a reason. Pain was hyped before his powers were really shown, and look what happened. If hashi was weaker than Muu and Oonoki, why did Madara only have respect for Hashi, he said weak senju were ugly, yet he admired hashi. When madara saw muu, he didnt even acknowledge him. Use logic. You can tell by the way Madara speaks about him that hashi was strong, just by adding some cells of his gives a huge power boost to ppl. You dont see Madara saying, "Oonoki, you are the only one who can stop me." Or "Only Muu can stop me." because if they were truly the most powerful kage, then Madara would have said so, but to him, they both were small.
 
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Hmmm, EMS Madara easily defeated Muu and Oonoki by toying with them.
Yet he had to use the nine tails to stand on even ground with hashi. If Muu or Oonoki were more powerful, why did he toy and beat them? yet go all out and lose to hashi? Characters are hyped up for a reason. Pain was hyped before his powers were really shown, and look what happened. If hashi was weaker than Muu and Oonoki, why did Madara only have respect for Hashi, he said weak senju were ugly, yet he admired hashi. When madara saw muu, he didnt even acknowledge him. Use logic.

Edo Madara*

Madara would have been dead 10 times over, but since he is immortal... Use logic.
 

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Mokuton isn't going to stop dust release.



Yeah there is one way of getting around it, not being there in the first place.

btw you cant attack something you can't see

If troll kage found a way, I'm sure a brilliant strategist such as Itachi or Minato can find away around it, if he was so impossible to find, why was he roflstomped by madara, and why couldn't he defeat troll kage without dying himself?
 

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If troll kage found a way, I'm sure a brilliant strategist such as Itachi or Minato can find away around it, if he was so impossible to find, why was he roflstomped by madara, and why couldn't he defeat troll kage without dying himself?

Itachi isn't a Kage.

Kisame lost to Gai, and Gai is not stronger than Kisame. Just a bad match up.

Fights are all about match ups.
 

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Mokuton isn't going to stop dust release.

So you think Mokuton is the only thing that Hashi use to beat Madara's Susanoo final version, Amaterasu, Meteorite Technique and Tsukuyomi??!
 

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Edo Madara*

Madara would have been dead 10 times over, but since he is immortal... Use logic.

did you not see where Muu AND Oonoki were both laying on the ground, BEATEN, and Madara standing over them with his arms folded, no scratches.
Or when Oonoki asked why was he toying with them and madara said comapred to him, they were like small children? u miss all that?
 

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So you think Mokuton is the only thing that Hashi use to beat Madara's Susanoo final version, Amaterasu, Meteorite Technique and Tsukuyomi??!

We don't know if you need rinnegan for that susanoo yet, or if he has Amaterasu, Meteorite Tech needs Rinnegan.

Being Hokage you know not to look an Uchiha in the eye.

But yes I think that is all he used besides ninja tools.
 

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did you not see where Muu AND Oonoki were both laying on the ground, BEATEN, and Madara standing over them with his arms folded, no scratches.
Or when Oonoki asked why was he toying with them and madara said comapred to him, they were like small children? u miss all that?

A>B>C logic doesn't work in Naruto.
 

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Itachi isn't a Kage.

Kisame lost to Gai, and Gai is not stronger than Kisame. Just a bad match up.

Fights are all about match ups.

even so, troll kage stalemating means that the invisibility/flight/dust release combo ain't all it's cracked up to be, and any kage with s/t techs has a fair chance of winning, S/t can be used to avoid dust release, and furthermore Muu's really strong dust release moves use massive amounts of chakra, depending on the situation he could very well run out of chakra before a fight ends, or even be killed before he uses dust release, his invisibility or flight doesn't guarantee him anything at all in a fight vs Minato or tobirama, especially since we know hardly anything about either of those two
 

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even so, troll kage stalemating means that the invisibility/flight/dust release combo ain't all it's cracked up to be, and any kage with s/t techs has a fair chance of winning, S/t can be used to avoid dust release, and furthermore Muu's really strong dust release moves use massive amounts of chakra, depending on the situation he could very well run out of chakra before a fight ends, or even be killed before he uses dust release, his invisibility or flight doesn't guarantee him anything at all in a fight vs Minato or tobirama, especially since we know hardly anything about either of those two

Thats in a scenario, name an attack another Kage has that rivals Dust Release?
 

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You use logic. EMS Madara trounced Muu and Tsuchikage like nothing. Madara also mentioned that they are so strong that entire maps had to be rewritten. This obviously means that Harishima´s Wood Release at full power had the power to destroy mountains and re-write an entire map. Madara´s display of Wood Release would not be enough to defeat Perfect Susanoo.

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Madara before Harishima urinates himself.

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Harishima is so strong that he is considered a fairy tale due to how unbelievable his power was.

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Power alone is not enough if the other ninja has versatility. Did you see Tsuchikage take down Kabuto?
 

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We don't know if you need rinnegan for that susanoo yet, or if he has Amaterasu, Meteorite Tech needs Rinnegan.

Being Hokage you know not to look an Uchiha in the eye.

But yes I think that is all he used besides ninja tools.

before Madara was revive by Kabuto through Edo Tensei...all we knew about his ability were he can use Sharingan, have EMS, Susanoo and a few Genjutsu and he lost to Hashirama. Up until these recent chapters, we're all know he have whole new tecnique that even the 5 Kage including Oonoki can't even match up with his awesomeness. Hashirama Senju will hold his title as the best shinobi of all time until Kishi decide to show all of his power.
 

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Thats in a scenario, name an attack another Kage has that rivals Dust Release?

doesn't matter if no one has a move that's as destructive, Minato was the fastest shinobi in konoha, and Tobirama had s/t techs, and a weaker edo tensei, and was a water master, they both have the potential to avoid dust release, tobi made it seem like childs play. Furthermore Tobirama was a Senju compared to Hashirama, and created a s/t, and edo tensei, this had to mean he was quite the thinker, and he may have had some decent edo slaves. Either way I'd say these two could fight Muu and win
 
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