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i don't care altough korra has shown some good firebending and tenzin best air bending i think we've seen so far.
Legend Of Korra..Why is earth and fire bending so weak?
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id personally like to see some new blood with real power, not descendants or anything like that,because i think its safe to say zuko's son, or grandson will have some moves, but rather someone like explosion man from the first series, just completely out of left field with op techs and ba'ness, but instead of hunting the avatar they would be working with korra , im assuming asami wont be with them much longer and that spots going to need filling,might as well fill it with someone baws
and as it stands now, if you break this group down and compare it to the last group, asami is momo xd
and as it stands now, if you break this group down and compare it to the last group, asami is momo xd
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in atla we always saw the strongest people fighting.
toph and bumi were the strongest earthbenders of the time.
iroh, ozai, azula, zuko were the strongest firebenders of the time.
katara, hama, paku were the strongest waterbenders of the time.
same can't be said about mako or bolin. they may be above average but they are no where near being the strongest.
at the end of the last episode we saw iroh. although it's uncertain how, he's related to zuko. in other words he's a royalty of fire nation. and through the ages, the royal family of the fire nation were always the strongest firebenders. before we jump to a conclusion I think we should see iroh's powers.
lin on the other hand took down a giant air ship herself. and if her aim wasn't stalling she might've taken down the other ship as well. it took sokka, suki and toph to take down an air fleet but with 3 people odds rise a lot. in other words what lin did was quite similar to toph's achievement in the atla finale.
toph and bumi were the strongest earthbenders of the time.
iroh, ozai, azula, zuko were the strongest firebenders of the time.
katara, hama, paku were the strongest waterbenders of the time.
same can't be said about mako or bolin. they may be above average but they are no where near being the strongest.
at the end of the last episode we saw iroh. although it's uncertain how, he's related to zuko. in other words he's a royalty of fire nation. and through the ages, the royal family of the fire nation were always the strongest firebenders. before we jump to a conclusion I think we should see iroh's powers.
lin on the other hand took down a giant air ship herself. and if her aim wasn't stalling she might've taken down the other ship as well. it took sokka, suki and toph to take down an air fleet but with 3 people odds rise a lot. in other words what lin did was quite similar to toph's achievement in the atla finale.
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I think you're overreacting. The times are too different and the situations were different too.
It has already been said, but in TLA we saw continuously the strongest benders of their time.
- Bumi and Toph for Earth
- Azula, Zuko, Ozai and Iroh for fire
- Paku, Hama and Katara for water
- Aang for wind (even if he wasn't the last one, he was a master) and he was taught all the other elements by people listed above, while already being gifted due to being the Avatar. That doesn't take away that we have seen countless of fodder benders that got their ass kicked in TLA. It would be a very grave misconception of you think that all the benders in the world had such teachers, or any teachers at all.
Highly likely the difference between TLA and TLOK would be paradise for a sociologist to explain the bending aspect. Bending is an aspect of their daily lives, but in theory anyone could be born with it. That doesn't take away that not everyone will be trained in it by a master, only a select few will and probably a lot of people get only taught some basics or nothing at all. So obviously the largest part of people who can bend aren't that special compared to the elite-benders from TLA.
Then you also need to take into consideration that most of the TLA benders were often in trained armies and they could overall cause a ruckus with their bending, especially when most of the locations were rarely so urban like in TLOK. By now the society has evolved to the point that you can't just randomly bend the heck out of your environment, especially earth benders. If you would now walk around with a sword on your back in the real world, the chance is reasonable that you're going to get the cops after you. It's similar with bending.
Mako and Bolin are probably self-taught benders, on top of that they trained mainly for pro-bending, a sport, which is different from actual combat fighting, something that has been clearly shown in TLOK.
So there are three major differences between the two shows:
1) The society has just evolved, making the way you can use bending different than it was in TLA. This is a natural evolution. If you start earthbending in the middle of a city road in TLOK, the consequences would be quite more severe compared to if you would just earthbend in the middle of city in TLA.
2) In TLA most of the benders shown were elite, world-class benders and most of the others were trained soldiers. On top of that even the common benders were often people who used their bending daily as it was their source of income while in TLOK that has shifted. The city works differently, now most benders probably do other work not directly related to their bending. There of course still examples like the power plant, pro-benders (and here you could very easily draw a comparison to real life sportsman who need to make a decision to do full-time sport or half-time sport and half-time work) and the metalbending corps. But that doesn't take away there is a clear shift due to the industrialization. The view on bending has changed.
3) While TLA mainly focused on those elite benders, TLOK just aims more at the more common benders and the battle we see are often between chiblockers and benders and/or in limited spaces and often those common benders lack a real 'education' in their bending skill.
But above all the quality of the animation is ridiculously good. Best example you can get is comparing the opening benders from the two series. It's logical of course, the technology has changed quite a bit since TLA and the bending was already great animated back then.
It has already been said, but in TLA we saw continuously the strongest benders of their time.
- Bumi and Toph for Earth
- Azula, Zuko, Ozai and Iroh for fire
- Paku, Hama and Katara for water
- Aang for wind (even if he wasn't the last one, he was a master) and he was taught all the other elements by people listed above, while already being gifted due to being the Avatar. That doesn't take away that we have seen countless of fodder benders that got their ass kicked in TLA. It would be a very grave misconception of you think that all the benders in the world had such teachers, or any teachers at all.
Highly likely the difference between TLA and TLOK would be paradise for a sociologist to explain the bending aspect. Bending is an aspect of their daily lives, but in theory anyone could be born with it. That doesn't take away that not everyone will be trained in it by a master, only a select few will and probably a lot of people get only taught some basics or nothing at all. So obviously the largest part of people who can bend aren't that special compared to the elite-benders from TLA.
Then you also need to take into consideration that most of the TLA benders were often in trained armies and they could overall cause a ruckus with their bending, especially when most of the locations were rarely so urban like in TLOK. By now the society has evolved to the point that you can't just randomly bend the heck out of your environment, especially earth benders. If you would now walk around with a sword on your back in the real world, the chance is reasonable that you're going to get the cops after you. It's similar with bending.
Mako and Bolin are probably self-taught benders, on top of that they trained mainly for pro-bending, a sport, which is different from actual combat fighting, something that has been clearly shown in TLOK.
So there are three major differences between the two shows:
1) The society has just evolved, making the way you can use bending different than it was in TLA. This is a natural evolution. If you start earthbending in the middle of a city road in TLOK, the consequences would be quite more severe compared to if you would just earthbend in the middle of city in TLA.
2) In TLA most of the benders shown were elite, world-class benders and most of the others were trained soldiers. On top of that even the common benders were often people who used their bending daily as it was their source of income while in TLOK that has shifted. The city works differently, now most benders probably do other work not directly related to their bending. There of course still examples like the power plant, pro-benders (and here you could very easily draw a comparison to real life sportsman who need to make a decision to do full-time sport or half-time sport and half-time work) and the metalbending corps. But that doesn't take away there is a clear shift due to the industrialization. The view on bending has changed.
3) While TLA mainly focused on those elite benders, TLOK just aims more at the more common benders and the battle we see are often between chiblockers and benders and/or in limited spaces and often those common benders lack a real 'education' in their bending skill.
But above all the quality of the animation is ridiculously good. Best example you can get is comparing the opening benders from the two series. It's logical of course, the technology has changed quite a bit since TLA and the bending was already great animated back then.
I was thinking the same thing the other day. The first series was definitely better in terms of bending quality and power.
Offtopic: Why is the first book called "Wind" when we saw almost nothing of Korra's training? Unless Korra by some miracle turns into a wind-bending master in the season finale, I don't see how the title relates to the story.
Offtopic: Why is the first book called "Wind" when we saw almost nothing of Korra's training? Unless Korra by some miracle turns into a wind-bending master in the season finale, I don't see how the title relates to the story.
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Aang never mastered any of the three elements in each of his books and his training wasn't shown that much either. He learned waterbending I think in the 17th episode of the first book, which consisted of 20 episodes. During the previous 17 episodes, in one or two, he did some waterbending (and then mainly in the Waterbending Scroll episode) and he never truly mastered waterbending in that season. In the 2nd book he quite quickly learned earth, however in the 3rd book it took also quite a while before he learned fire, I think just passed the middle of the season. In the end it was hinted a few times, even once right before he met the lionturtle, that he still had to improve.
The title just refers to the element the Avatar is learning during that season and even though it was never shown much, it was implied that she was training in it quite a lot.
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then hoepfully korra starts airbending soon before book "air" ends its basied on her learning air she ahs yet to air bend
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I have been thinking this the entire series!
I understand we saw the absolute highest tier fighting aang (zuko azula boomy ect...)
However, even general run of the mill fire nation army guys are more impressive then the Mako has been.
I think that the scaling is slightly less and they need to have equalists winning enough battles to further the plot.
I understand we saw the absolute highest tier fighting aang (zuko azula boomy ect...)
However, even general run of the mill fire nation army guys are more impressive then the Mako has been.
I think that the scaling is slightly less and they need to have equalists winning enough battles to further the plot.
u do kno they are some of the best benders of their time. bumi is a 112 year old master and can bend even big things like his houses in omashu. azula is a prodigy and zuko became a very strong bender later on
but i think there has been a bit of a scale down but its also due to the fact that they fought constantly in the old avatar
Well, at least now we have proof that benders are in fact weaker that the previous generation. In the first series it was clearly stated that you die if shot by lightning and Aang was living (or should I say dying) proof.
Amon said that Makko was a talented fire-bender, yet he survived a lightning attack from point-blank range.
Case closed.
Amon said that Makko was a talented fire-bender, yet he survived a lightning attack from point-blank range.
Case closed.
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He only survived because of plot and died 4 minutes later for Tarrlok's heroic ending.
It's pretty clear the power scaling went down from TLA to LOK. I mean the benders in the LOK don't come anywhere close to the bending feats pulled off in TLA.
Just can't compare.
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Just can't compare.
Plot or no plot, it doesn't matter because it still happened. If it was for the sake of the plot, Mako could have used fire, but he didn't. I'm just saying this made quite clear how strong their bending is in comparison to the first series.
Alright I may have only seen one episode of this series, and that was the season finale, and from what I saw of the fire benders mainly Iroh, and Mako. From the two you can greatly tell the difference in their Fire-Bending abilities, Iroh is much more proficient and Mako is just by looking at what the two had done. Mako is younger than Iroh is (obviously) and isn't as proficient nor is he as strong as Iroh. So I wasn't expecting that Lightning blast to harm Amon that badly.
I mean when Azula struck Aang with that lightning she had far more training and also blasted him in the back and in the spine with it so obviously it was more devastating than Mako's point blank lightning blast to Amon.
As for the Earth-Bending I didn't really get too see too much of it in the season finale so I don't know if its any weaker or stronger, but from what I saw of it, it was relatively the same.
I mean when Azula struck Aang with that lightning she had far more training and also blasted him in the back and in the spine with it so obviously it was more devastating than Mako's point blank lightning blast to Amon.
As for the Earth-Bending I didn't really get too see too much of it in the season finale so I don't know if its any weaker or stronger, but from what I saw of it, it was relatively the same.
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go back and watch the series man.
the last episodes showed LOK bending better then the other episodes. My fav beifong is the strongest earth bender so she was impressive. Zuko grandson was SOMEWHAT impressive. but still like ol boy said. That should have killed amon
go back and watch the series man.
the last episodes showed LOK bending better then the other episodes. My fav beifong is the strongest earth bender so she was impressive. Zuko grandson was SOMEWHAT impressive. but still like ol boy said. That should have killed amon
I will eventually considering what I saw I liked, the series felt darker and more mature than the original was and thats good
But to me after seeing the Last Airbender series then seeing that season finale of LoK I think the following episodes will be better and show more growth with the characters and all the bendings are just as strong from Last Airbender.
The only thing that baffled me about Amon getting Zapped like that was that he suffered no damage from it what so ever :/ while Aang had a scar on his back. But didn't Ozai or Zuko get struck by lightning also?