[Discussion] The boundary between fantasy & reality.

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There are two "worlds" that we as human beings are aware of, these "worlds" are know as Reality & Fantasy. And to some extent there is a somewhat solid boundary between the two. However, when one tries to; for lack of of better word, intertwine these "worlds" under certain conditions it can cause problems. And THAT is the root of many crimes,problems,and other things in society,culture,etc. We live in a world of labels as I have said countless times before. EVERY religion, culture, social group, etc, have things that are considered the "norm" and things that are considered "taboo" or "forbidden"(outcasted) in terms of morals or norms. The mistake that a majority of people make (under certain conditions & scenarios), is that they try to intertwine reality and fantasy into one state of awareness.

Lets look at two sides of this first, for example: In terms of art, this is an absolutely brilliant thing to do, on the other hand, in terms of sexuality (*** drive) this can be a very bad thing to do. Here is an example of what I'm trying to sum up. Lets take an individual who fantasizes and is "turned on" by the thought and fantasy of rape. It is in his imagination, it is in his thoughts, and it is not affecting another individual negatively, meaning that it is not harming anyone. However, if that individual were to go and commit the act of rape ("bring his fantasy to life") then THAT is when a real problem comes into fruition. Another example, if an indivdual is having thoughts that are considered "taboo" (forbidden) in terms of morals & being the norm, then that individual has every right to do so. However, if that individual were to go and commit these acts In real life, then that is when a real life problem spawns.

Every human being has the right his or her imagination, our imaginations do not harm other individuals. We cannot judge and label (even we do it all the time becasue this is a natuaral human instinct) the thoughts and fantasies of other individuals as "sick" or "perverted" or "twisted" just becasue they aren't considered the norm. The "solution" to this logic isn't trying to force yourself to stop having these desires or fantasies, the solution to this problem is understanding and learning to seperate imagination from reality & keeping it that way. That individual must also learn to eliminate guilt and form understanding and logic about his or her thoughts. We DO NOT choose what we are naturally attacted or "turned on" to, this is soley instinct, if you choose to think so otherwise then you would only be lying to yourself and decieving yourself, and that is the definition of insecurity and foolishness. If someone has an imaginative fetish per se about incest, or murder, or underage "relations",etc,etc, then that individual must take that into understanding & fruition amongst themselves, other individuals have nothing to do with that. And as I just said, that individual must keep imagination and reality seperate and prevent from intertwining the two of them. To those of you like the individuals I just described, stop trying to prevent youselves from feeling something that you feel instictively, and destroy your guilt. However, be aware of your imagination and reality and the boundary between them. Be aware that you are responsible for your actions, and be aware that under certain (many) conditions that there are DIRE consequenses for breaking the boundary between fantasy and reality. The answer is not to perish our thoughts and imaginations, the answer is logic and self-control.

P.S: I do not condone ANY of the "taboos" I listed above(in my post), I just simply do not pass judement upon individuals that do have these thoughts/fantasies. U_U.
 
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Its really boring to read, try make it more spaced out
 

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Then dont read then. No one is making you participate in this thread.

I do want to participate though, no need to be so nasty to me.
All I'm saying is for you to make it less bloody boring to read, nobody likes a giant wall of text black writing with no paragraph spaces. Show some respect to people
 

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This was a good read. Id rep you but i cant.
 
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Its really boring to read, try make it more spaced out

Yes pls...

OT: you have some good points there... but I just want to add to it that when trying to prevent ur fantasies to become reality one should also try to avoid "letting" himself/herself of thinking about these fantasies.
Ofc those thoughts are human instincts but one shouldn't let himself/herself be "overtaken"(hope i chose the right word :ghehe: ), meaning that we should try to think of something else.
So when you have an evil thought (for example) then try to think of something else cose if you think about it too much then the probablility of acting this fantasy will increase :uruhara:


Well... that's everything I thought of saying atm xd there are probably many more comments I have but I just cannot come up with anything else
 

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I do want to participate though, no need to be so nasty to me.
All I'm saying is for you to make it less bloody boring to read, nobody likes a giant wall of text black writing with no paragraph spaces. Show some respect to people

I agree... use some paragraphs please.
 

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I do want to participate though, no need to be so nasty to me.
All I'm saying is for you to make it less bloody boring to read, nobody likes a giant wall of text black writing with no paragraph spaces. Show some respect to people

first off no need to curse :flaw::flaw: , and second..... what about poeple that are mentaly unstable and they think that their fantasy is coming real? how are we to understand if its bad or not when they might mean to make it good? :confused:
 

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first off no need to curse :flaw::flaw: , and second..... what about poeple that are mentaly unstable and they think that their fantasy is coming real? how are we to understand if its bad or not when they might mean to make it good? :confused:

we just imprison them in a hospital for mentally unstable ppl where they can get rehabilitation :hint:
 

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we just imprison them in a hospital for mentally unstable ppl where they can get rehabilitation :hint:

ok so like i said how do we no its a bad thing?:confused:.. yes they may need rehab but the rehab we use is violent.... and who are we to say weither or not they need it ? it should be the persons choice. right?
 

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first off no need to curse :flaw::flaw: , and second..... what about poeple that are mentaly unstable and they think that their fantasy is coming real? how are we to understand if its bad or not when they might mean to make it good? :confused:

Well, I believe that is a completely different logic. In my post I'm addressing individuals who are "sane" & mentally stable.
 
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Well, I believe that is a completely different logic, In my post I'm addressing individuals who are "sane" & mentally stable.

but you also mentioned fantasy and reality right and tht fantasy is bad .... well the best way to say wiether fantasy is bad or not was to compare it to insane/ mentally unstable..

but you also mentioned fantasy and reality right and tht fantasy is bad .... well the best way to say wiether fantasy is bad or not was to compare it to insane/ mentally unstable..

well actually let me correct myself thts how i thought it could compare... sry
 
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Yes pls...

OT: you have some good points there... but I just want to add to it that when trying to prevent ur fantasies to become reality one should also try to avoid "letting" himself/herself of thinking about these fantasies.
Ofc those thoughts are human instincts but one shouldn't let himself/herself be "overtaken"(hope i chose the right word :ghehe: ), meaning that we should try to think of something else.
So when you have an evil thought (for example) then try to think of something else cose if you think about it too much then the probablility of acting this fantasy will increase :uruhara:


Well... that's everything I thought of saying atm xd there are probably many more comments I have but I just cannot come up with anything else

What do you mean by "overtaken"? I just said in my post that I believe that we should not perish and trash our thoughts and imagination, but form logic and practice self control. Its all up to the individual, we are responsible for our actions.
 

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What do you mean by "overtaken"? I just said in my post that I believe that we should not perish and trash our thoughts and imagination, but form logic and practice self control. Its all up to the individual, we are responsible for our actions.

true we are responsible for our actions but our fanties might over take our selfcontrol then we are screwed
 

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true we are responsible for our actions but our fanties might over take our selfcontrol then we are screwed

Well, that all goes back to self control and logic. We must be able to understand and control our thoughts and imagination, otherwise, like you said it will eventually interfere with actuality. Thats how pedophiles come into play. They have fantasies (simply due to the fact that a majority of individuals are attracted to things that are labled as taboo or forbidden), and then they try to bring these fantasies to life.
 
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