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[Young Thug]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

No offence but your avatar and signature are kinda gay.

That whole moment with those two was the gayest thing I've seen in Naruto.



OT: These threads are banned?

 

[LBeezy]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

One word: Plot...

Lol! This! ^^^

 

[Shika88]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Nice theory, but how would you explain, that Edo Madara looked pretty young?
If he lived as long as you proposed, wouldn't he be old?

 

[Chatte]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

The only thing that it doesn't kinda suits in my opinion is Madara's trust in Kagami...

 

[LBeezy]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

LOL nice one man, you noticed it too. All of the members of Team Tobirama had enough info on them but Kagami Uchiha was written off even though his power level should be close to that of Hiruzen.

Not to mention he could of felt the same jealously danzou felt when Hiruzen was made the 3rd Hokage.

Exactly!!! If he was on a team with Hiruzen and Danzou he was obviously somewhat of an equal and strong enough to fight on par with them. And yeah, he easily could have been jealous just like. Danzou when Hiruzen was appointed the 3rd Hokage. Kagami was probably like "damn, Konoha don't let Uchiha do anything!" Lol and then bam! Plotted a revenge while meeting up with Madara. Lol idk. But its definitely a possibility.

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Nice theory, but how would you explain, that Edo Madara looked pretty young?
If he lived as long as you proposed, wouldn't he be old?

Kagami Uchiha looked to be around Jounin level and in his mid/late teens when he was apart of Tobirama's team who too looked to be pretty young

Assuming Madara and Hashirama are close to an equal age and Tobirama is only a bit younger than Hashi

Then its fully possible that Kagami when he was around 20 and Madara to have spoken, become allies and talked about the Eye of the Moon Plan

Whatever age Madara looked, he undoubtly died at that age meaning Madara wasn't the Tobi who spoke to younger Kisame but in fact Kagami Uchiha was the one

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Exactly!!! If he was on a team with Hiruzen and Danzou he was obviously somewhat of an equal and strong enough to fight on par with them. And yeah, he easily could have been jealous just like. Danzou when Hiruzen was appointed the 3rd Hokage. Kagami was probably like "damn, Konoha don't let Uchiha do anything!" Lol and then bam! Plotted a revenge while meeting up with Madara. Lol idk. But its definitely a possibility.

Lol so true and because of his Uchiha heritage he must of been swayed by Madara's arguments that the Senju's betrayal of the Uchiha must not go unpunished.

So Kagami is the true avenger of the Uchiha Clan

 

[narutownsyouall]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

He is not Kagami.

1 word as to why

Suspect.

Out of all the people in the Narutoverse if he was known to have a grudge he would have been suspected.

Somebody as informed as Danzo who worked with Kagami and would know a bit about his abilities. He would know if he had a hatred for the clan. And NOBODY has considered him to be powerful, as an Uchiha, or as a ninja. He would be suspected if he had power that was equal to Tobi.

And Where does his hate for Hashirama come from? Although he may have worked with Madara, he has no reason to retaliate against the village.

 

[Shika88]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

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Look at the note n the left side. They all wonted the title of Hokage, including Kagami.

 

[narutownsyouall]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Exactly!!! If he was on a team with Hiruzen and Danzou he was obviously somewhat of an equal and strong enough to fight on par with them. And yeah, he easily could have been jealous just like. Danzou when Hiruzen was appointed the 3rd Hokage. Kagami was probably like "damn, Konoha don't let Uchiha do anything!" Lol and then bam! Plotted a revenge while meeting up with Madara. Lol idk. But its definitely a possibility.

Even Danzo was far and I mean FARRRRR! Behind Hiruzen when it came to power.

Kigami was never considered to be "God of Shinobi" No he is not powerful and we have no clue on his abilities whate so ever. Kagami is fodder for all we know.

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

I know Kagami's power level is a topic of debate because he hasn't be shown to have massive feats but who knows that they don't exist

If he was given a massive feat of strength then he would become like Obito in the idea of its such a obvious theory if it turns out to be him nobody will go "didn't see that coming!"

Not to mention before Tobi got his Rinnegan eye i don't recall him fighting but simply using his space time ninjutsu and Izangni to avoid a real fight and then simply win by exhausting the opponent.

 

[FloriGlori]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

What proof is there, again? Exactly, none. He's just some Uchiha with similar hair.

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Deductive Thinking - Think of it as a thought experiment with no concrete evidence but clues and other pieces of evidence that help you get to the answer without being given part of it to get there.

 

[LBeezy]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Even Danzo was far and I mean FARRRRR! Behind Hiruzen when it came to power.

Kigami was never considered to be "God of Shinobi" No he is not powerful and we have no clue on his abilities whate so ever. Kagami is fodder for all we know.

I agree with the first part you said.

But no offense, you're contradicting yourself by saying "No he is not powerful" and then right after saying "we have no clue on his abilities what so ever".
You're right about the part that says we have NO clue on his abilities. So therefore we can't say he's weak or strong. He could be fodder, yes. But as far as I'm concerned, if he's on a team with Tobirama (the current Hokage at that time) Hiruzen and Danzou, I believe he was somewhat capable of holding his own ground when it came to a fight. Especially in a war. The only fodder Tobirama would have on his team might be a medical ninja. But if the Hokage has an Uchiha with him (chosen above all the other Uchihas in Konoha), we should just assume that the Uchiha is something serious.
Just my opinion though.

 

[Frikid]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

tobi = izuna , end of theory.

 

[narutownsyouall]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

I know Kagami's power level is a topic of debate because he hasn't be shown to have massive feats but who knows that they don't exist

If he was given a massive feat of strength then he would become like Obito in the idea of its such a obvious theory if it turns out to be him nobody will go "didn't see that coming!"

Not to mention before Tobi got his Rinnegan eye i don't recall him fighting but simply using his space time ninjutsu and Izangni to avoid a real fight and then simply win by exhausting the opponent.

If Kagami had Space time. Danzo would have already of Know.

 

[LBeezy]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

I know Kagami's power level is a topic of debate because he hasn't be shown to have massive feats but who knows that they don't exist

If he was given a massive feat of strength then he would become like Obito in the idea of its such a obvious theory if it turns out to be him nobody will go "didn't see that coming!"

Not to mention before Tobi got his Rinnegan eye i don't recall him fighting but simply using his space time ninjutsu and Izangni to avoid a real fight and then simply win by exhausting the opponent.

This is true. I've never seen Tobi really actually fight fight someone.

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Negative Knight is always right

But if the Hokage has an Uchiha with him (chosen above all the other Uchihas in Konoha), we should just assume that the Uchiha is something serious.
Just my opinion though.

^This

 

[LBeezy]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

What proof is there, again? Exactly, none. He's just some Uchiha with similar hair.

Good enough for me. Lol XD
But nah seriously though, idk if you've noticed, but Kishi isn't gonna give away any dead-on details about Tobi's identity. He wants it to be a mystery to us. It builds suspense and all that crap.
As far as proof from Kagami, there isn't any.
But look at what Tobi said in the latest chapter. "I'm an Uchiha who wants revenge on the clan and Konoha" or something along those lines. Danzou was a f*cked up person after Hiruzen become Hokage. Kagami could have easily become just as f*cked up. And therefore, wants revenge on Konoha. And he could want revenge on Uchiha for a reason Kishi has yet to tell us.
Kishi isn't gonna give away all the "proof" you want right away. He's gonna purposely drag it out.

 

[FloriGlori]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Of course, there is no concrete proof. For no character people assume to be Tobi. But those speculations should at least make sense. I could also say Tobi is that fat Akimichi guy that was on a mission with Kagami, since it cannot be disproven. Maybe he lost some weight, gained a Sharingan and got a new haircat just to look cooler as a villain? But there's nothing that gives any reason to assume it.

The same basically goes for Kagami. He's just one of the few fodder Uchiha who was given a name, which seems to make people think he has some kind of importance.

Kagami has no feats, no personality, no goals, no background - just nothing. He's just an Uchiha with similar haircut. Of course, it's a nice idea trying to broaden people's horizon by confronting them with controverse theories, but there should at least be some reason behind them. Which is not the case with Kagami, though.