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[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

I just realized Tobi outclasses Itachi in intelligence, to have constructed a seemingly flawless plan without the help of Kabuto/Oro and Akatsuki Tobi had this planning going for a very long time. Apparently he also knew Madara, managed to manipulate Nagato and figured out Itachi's intelligent inner motives without straining himself at all

Lol i've just come to respect Tobi for his intelligence and not for his goofiness

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Of course, there is no concrete proof. For no character people assume to be Tobi. But those speculations should at least make sense. I could also say Tobi is that fat Akimichi guy that was on a mission with Kagami, since it cannot be disproven. Maybe he lost some weight, gained a Sharingan and got a new haircat just to look cooler as a villain? But there's nothing that gives any reason to assume it.

The same basically goes for Kagami. He's just one of the few fodder Uchiha who was given a name, which seems to make people think he has some kind of importance.

Kagami has no feats, no personality, no goals, no background - just nothing. He's just an Uchiha with similar haircut.

LOL could you imagine a Edo meeting between the ex-Team Tobirama

Tobirama - i was the 2nd Hokage, made the jutsu we are living off this very moment and etc

Hiruzen - I was the greatest leader of all hokage and one of the greatest martyrs for the hidden leaf village directly

Kagami - I am Tobi, the soon to be new owner of this world

Danzou - I was a gangster and i did every dirty deal possible to protect the leaf

Glasses guy, Old Lady - Umm...we got bitch slapped onto the floor by your great niece tobirama U_U

Akimichi - Yeah so where's the grub at?

 

[LBeezy]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Of course, there is no concrete proof. For no character people assume to be Tobi. But those speculations should at least make sense. I could also say Tobi is that fat Akimichi guy that was on a mission with Kagami, since it cannot be disproven. Maybe he lost some weight, gained a Sharingan and got a new haircat just to look cooler as a villain? But there's nothing that gives any reason to assume it.

The same basically goes for Kagami. He's just one of the few fodder Uchiha who was given a name, which seems to make people think he has some kind of importance.

Kagami has no feats, no personality, no goals, no background - just nothing. He's just an Uchiha with similar haircut. Of course, it's a nice idea trying to broaden people's horizon by confronting them with controverse theories, but there should at least be some reason behind it. Which is not the case with Kagami, though.

Dude, just read my last post on page 2! Or my other post. There's plenty of reason behind it. I didn't make this thread so I can't take credit for this theory, but NegatIve Knight opened my eyes to something I've never thought before. If you set your ignorance aside for a minute and opened up your mind, you might be enlightened too. I mean listen to yourself - "fat Akimichi guy, lost some weight, gained Sharingan and got a new hair cut just to look cooler as a villain" really bruh? Kagami is everything you just described NATURALLY the way KISHIMOTO made him.

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Dude, just read my last post on page 2! Or my other post. There's plenty of reason behind it. I didn't make this thread so I can't take credit for this theory, but NegatIve Knight opened my eyes to something I've never thought before. If you set your ignorance aside for a minute and opened up your mind, you might be enlightened too. I mean listen to yourself - "fat Akimichi guy, lost some weight, gained Sharingan and got a new hair cut just to look cooler as a villain" really bruh? Kagami is everything you just described NATURALLY the way KISHIMOTO made him.

Lol loved the part where you said i opened your eyes, feeling like a Itachi to a Saskue

and don't worry Lbeezy we could still be wrong *Sheldon Snort* but some people's brains take the long way round to figure things out Lol (joke )

 

[narutownsyouall]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Tobi is................Banned in this section STRAWBERRY GONNA GET YOU!!

 

[FloriGlori]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Dude, just read my last post on page 2! Or my other post. There's plenty of reason behind it. I didn't make this thread so I can't take credit for this theory, but NegatIve Knight opened my eyes to something I've never thought before. If you set your ignorance aside for a minute and opened up your mind, you might be enlightened too. I mean listen to yourself - "fat Akimichi guy, lost some weight, gained Sharingan and got a new hair cut just to look cooler as a villain" really bruh? Kagami is everything you just described NATURALLY the way KISHIMOTO made him.

Exactly, as I said. Not the slightest connection aside from their hair, and not even that is the same. To be honestly, if being enlightened means to believe in such nonsense, I prefer being ignorant. One can make up a connection between each everything with a bit fantasy, but that's not making it reasonable.

Be assured that I always read what the author of a thread said if intend to post in it, by the way.

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Exactly, as I said. Not the slightest connection aside from their hair, and not even that is the same. To be honestly, if being enlightened means to believe in such nonsense, I prefer being ignorant. One can make up a connection between each everything with a bit fantasy, but that's not making it reasonable.

Be assured that I always read what the author of a thread said if intend to post in it, by the way.

Then please "enlighten me" on who you think Tobi is?

My bet is that you don't consider who tobi is because you can't bare to be wrong, am i right or am i right?

 

[narutownsyouall]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Then please "enlighten me" on who you think Tobi is?

My bet is that you don't consider who tobi is because you can't bare to be wrong, am i right or am i right?

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[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Ok we all know that tobi is zetsu or well he has zetsu in him. We know white zetsu is made up from hashi dna and black zetsu most likely has madara dna.

So all that is left is a body host and sorry but I think this is obito due to the fact that kakashi has a fragment of obito's powers and it looks like a weak similar version to tobi.The only power I can compare kakashi's sharingan with is tobi.

This is how I think obito could survive after his body being crushed and that madara dna and memerioies have corrupted his body and mind.

Maybe that goofy tobi was more of obito and his goofy self. But then later the madara dna takes over completely. Something along those lines.

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Ok we all know that tobi is zetsu or well he has zetsu in him. We know white zetsu is made up from hashi dna and black zetsu most likely has madara dna.

So all that is left is a body host and sorry but I think this is obito due to the fact that kakashi has a fragment of obito's powers and it looks like a weak similar version to tobi.The only power I can compare kakashi's sharingan with is tobi.

This is how I think obito could survive after his body being crushed and that madara dna and memerioies have corrupted his body and mind.

Maybe that goofy tobi was more of obito and his goofy self. But then later the madara dna takes over completely. Something along those lines.

Like you copied your answer from another thread i copy mine

The amount of loop-holes in the theory render it impossible, explain these things and i will accept Obito as the real Tobi

Madara knowing Obito?
Obito surviving death?
Obito hating the Hidden Leaf because of rocks falling on him? If anything i blame the Hidden Rock
Obito appearing taller/close to the height of Minato in the battle of masked men when clearly he is shorter/equal to Kakashi’s height?
Obito not reacting to the first time he saw Kakashi in a disdain or shock?
How Obito acquired the Rinnegan and was involved with Nagato when clearly Nagato is older than him?

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Like you copied your answer from another thread i copy mine

The amount of loop-holes in the theory render it impossible, explain these things and i will accept Obito as the real Tobi

Madara knowing Obito?
Obito surviving death?
Obito hating the Hidden Leaf because of rocks falling on him? If anything i blame the Hidden Rock
Obito appearing taller/close to the height of Minato in the battle of masked men when clearly he is shorter/equal to Kakashi’s height?
Obito not reacting to the first time he saw Kakashi in a disdain or shock?
How Obito acquired the Rinnegan and was involved with Nagato when clearly Nagato is older than him?

:shrug: why the hell would I retype the same thing, really?

What you fail to understand is tobi has zetsu in him, I don't think he is obito I just think obito's body and eye is the host.

Why is everyone acting like in a anime manga movie when someone dies they are dead :sy: how many stories have you seen someone who was meant to of died. When it comes to obito every tries to act like they have never heard of this.

He was actually taller then kakashi a little bit when they was 13.

I am going to post my theory after this post, I don't think it is obito's actions

 

[Branyx]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Izuna? Dude first why dint kabuto revived izuna along madara n dont say because he was blind cuz itachis eyes got taken before revival ,sooo one thing how come vizuna wasn't brough back hmmmmmmmm or or fact that kabuto dint mention him or fact that its stupid to bring back one brother instead of both with mg

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his ability to become intangible and pass through solid objects and barely makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him.

I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way I see it is that, when madara was dying he activated the rinnegan, and let’s zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA. He then tells zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body, like a big enough chunk to make a body, hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories (or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat.

Now what if zetsu before meeting obito implanted the rinnegan into an uzumaki child (nagato). So he could get the Sage Body |Sage Eyes sort of thing in order to study it abilities and then later when this uzumaki child was powerful enough revive madara in his prime.

But as this uzumaki got older and stronger zetsu knows he wouldn’t be able to guide and control this child anymore, which is why he needed an uchiha body to put madara’s dna, memories and harashima cells into. Which he later did when he lucky found this defenceless boy with special eye power.. Obito.

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My theory^^

Who every tobi is he is crazy so when people say obito don't start talking about who kind he was :sy:

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Izuna? Dude first why dint kabuto revived izuna along madara n dont say because he was blind cuz itachis eyes got taken before revival ,sooo one thing how come vizuna wasn't brough back hmmmmmmmm or or fact that kabuto dint mention him or fact that its stupid to bring back one brother instead of both with mg

Kagami ? Dude first why dint kabuto revived kagami along madara n dont say because he was bcuz he forgot,sooo one thing how come Kagami wasn't brough back hmmmmmmmm or or fact that kabuto dint mention him or fact that its stupid to bring back madara instead of Kagami with mg

"Stupid Answers require stupid replies"

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his ability to become intangible and pass through solid objects and barely makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him.

I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way I see it is that, when madara was dying he activated the rinnegan, and let’s zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA. He then tells zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body, like a big enough chunk to make a body, hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories (or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat.

Now what if zetsu before meeting obito implanted the rinnegan into an uzumaki child (nagato). So he could get the Sage Body |Sage Eyes sort of thing in order to study it abilities and then later when this uzumaki child was powerful enough revive madara in his prime.

But as this uzumaki got older and stronger zetsu knows he wouldn’t be able to guide and control this child anymore, which is why he needed an uchiha body to put madara’s dna, memories and harashima cells into. Which he later did when he lucky found this defenceless boy with special eye power.. Obito.

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My theory^^

Who every tobi is he is crazy so when people say obito don't start talking about who kind he was :sy:

Your Theory is like a game of minesweeper, mines (loopholes), mines everywhere!

Was Zetsu just walking down the street, greeting everyone that he meet when he comes across a unusual sort of thing? and he's like Hey,Hey! Its a wonderful kind of day to find a dying Uchiha (Arthur Theme Song)

 

[LBeezy]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Kagami ? Dude first why dint kabuto revived kagami along madara n dont say because he was bcuz he forgot,sooo one thing how come Kagami wasn't brough back hmmmmmmmm or or fact that kabuto dint mention him or fact that its stupid to bring back madara instead of Kagami with mg

"Stupid Answers require stupid replies"

Lmaoooooo!!!! That had me rollin! XD

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Your Theory is like a game of minesweeper, mines (loopholes), mines everywhere!

Was Zetsu just walking down the street, greeting everyone that he meet when he comes across a unusual sort of thing? and he's like Hey,Hey! Its a wonderful kind of day to find a dying Uchiha (Arthur Theme Song)

:sy: It's war perfect time and wait you said loopholes yet you only said one, name others then?

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Lmaoooooo!!!! That had me rollin! XD

LOOOL check out my recent Zetsu Song about how Zetsu and Obito met

 

[LBeezy]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his ability to become intangible and pass through solid objects and barely makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him.

I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way I see it is that, when madara was dying he activated the rinnegan, and let’s zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA. He then tells zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body, like a big enough chunk to make a body, hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories (or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat.

Now what if zetsu before meeting obito implanted the rinnegan into an uzumaki child (nagato). So he could get the Sage Body |Sage Eyes sort of thing in order to study it abilities and then later when this uzumaki child was powerful enough revive madara in his prime.

But as this uzumaki got older and stronger zetsu knows he wouldn’t be able to guide and control this child anymore, which is why he needed an uchiha body to put madara’s dna, memories and harashima cells into. Which he later did when he lucky found this defenceless boy with special eye power.. Obito.

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My theory^^

Who every tobi is he is crazy so when people say obito don't start talking about who kind he was :sy:

Let me just say that even though your theory sounds a little bit too Sci-fi ish for Naruto, I do like however the fact that you stated your opinions/thoughts without ragging on or talking sh*t about anyone elses thoughts and opinions.

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Full Explanation on why Tobi is Kagami Uchiha

:sy: It's war perfect time and wait you said loopholes yet you only said one, name others then?

Biggest one: Was Zetsu just walking down the street, greeting everyone that he meet when he comes across a unusual sort of thing? and he's like Hey,Hey! Its a wonderful kind of day to find a dying Uchiha (Arthur Theme Song)

Other Loopholes
Madara knowing Obito?
Obito surviving death?
Obito hating the Hidden Leaf because of rocks falling on him? If anything i blame the Hidden Rock
Obito appearing taller/close to the height of Minato in the battle of masked men when clearly he is shorter/equal to Kakashi’s height?
Obito not reacting to the first time he saw Kakashi in a disdain or shock?
How Obito acquired the Rinnegan and was involved with Nagato when clearly Nagato is older than him?