Reinforcement: GUY SENSEI!!!

[iamdsixth]

I think It would have been wiser to have sent Might Guy as a reinforcement for the Kages fighting Edo Madara Uchiha,since only "PHYSICAL" attacks are effective. I am not saying they are surely going to win,but his abilities would definitely make a possitive impact for the Kages.

Or the idea of Guy Sensei's spirit breaking,losing hope. Isn't he the most spirited shinobi in the Manga besides Naruto??
Would love to see his face looking like Gaara when he saw the Meteor.
Gaara: "Is this the power of a god!!??"

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Note the 8th Gate:"Opening this Gate gives the user power that is even beyond the 5 Kage"

 

[Braveknight]

Activating this gates means guy's death...well iDont want him dieing

 

[iamdsixth]

Activating this gates means guy's death...well iDont want him dieing

I agree!I love Guy Sensei and wouldnt want to see him die. Besides,he makes the filler episodes fun to watch.

And by the way..The 8th gate is open at this point..Look at the first image under my post.

 

[WhistleBlower]

Activating this gates means guy's death...well iDont want him dieing

THIS ^^

also in relation to this thread guy would be usefull but he is not even kage level like srsly wat can he do that the kages cant haha and dont say taijutsu..in my opinion he will be defeated quickly U_U

 

[iamdsixth]

THIS ^^

also in relation to this thread guy would be usefull but he is not even kage level like srsly wat can he do that the kages cant haha and dont say taijutsu..in my opinion he will be defeated quickly U_U

One on one with Madara,,not a chance if the sun was cold.
If you read the contents of the images posted, OPENING THE 8th GATE WOULD GIVE THE USER POWER EVEN BEYOND THE 5 KAGE. So maybe as a team they stand a chance.
"Dont say TAIJUTSU"...???? Realy??
If I am not mistaken Madara himself stated that "ONLY PHYSICAL ATTACKS WOULD WORK AGAINTS ME" isn't Taijutsu a form of "PHYSICAL" offense?
& your username is "UCHIHA usman"....:flaw:

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

I see that people are overrating the Gates some more. It is sort of embarrassing to see people who take things so literally.

 

[WhistleBlower]

One on one with Madara,,not a chance if the sun was cold.
If you read the contents of the images posted, OPENING THE 8th GATE WOULD GIVE THE USER POWER EVEN BEYOND THE 5 KAGE. So maybe as a team they stand a chance.
"Dont say TAIJUTSU"...???? Realy??
If I am not mistaken Madara himself stated that "ONLY PHYSICAL ATTACKS WOULD WORK AGAINTS ME" isn't Taijutsu a form of "PHYSICAL" offense?
& your username is "UCHIHA usman"....:flaw:

sorrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy mrs perfect U_U

by saying dont say taijutsu i meant his level of techniques even with power cannot be compared with kage strong techniques...and even if he does gain this immense power it will eventually fade all madara has to do is dodge gai with his susanoo or watever nothing can go thorough madara's ultimate susanoo looka at it! its destruction incarnate like madara said....and when the time of the gate does run out there goes your precious gai-sensei :sy::flaw:

 

[psukkar]

I see that people are overrating the Gates some more. It is sort of embarrassing to see people who take things so literally.

u dont know what the 8 gates are capable dude.

Look at the difference between 5th gate to 6 th gate,.

Then 6th gate to 7th gate.

The differences are huge.

The 8th gate would be something crazy, and its only fitting since it would kill u.




Im a big fan gai, his fights are so fun to watch, did i meantion the lee vs garra fight was the reason I even watched the series at all.

Probally one of the best fights in the series still.



Also anyone saying all u have to do is just doage is retarded, Gai is the fastest when it comes to natural movement, excluding things like time space jutsu. I agree sassano could possibly take it but there will wont be a high chance of dodging the attack.

 

[iamdsixth]

I see that people are overrating the Gates some more. It is sort of embarrassing to see people who take things so literally.

Is this thread really "OVERRATING" the Gates?? Seriously,after stating what it is capable of, the thread points not of winning the fight but making a slight dent in favor of the Kages.
"Your basically pointing out (8Gates) would help the fight againts Madara(not to win but raise even a centimeter of a chance) overrating. "

:shrug:

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

u dont know what the 8 gates are capable dude.

Look at the difference between 5th gate to 6 th gate,.

Then 6th gate to 7th gate.

The differences are huge.

The 8th gate would be something crazy, and its only fitting since it would kill u.




Im a big fan gai, his fights are so fun to watch, did i meantion the lee vs garra fight was the reason I even watched the series at all.

Probally one of the best fights in the series still.



Also anyone saying all u have to do is just doage is retarded, Gai is the fastest when it comes to natural movement, excluding things like time space jutsu. I agree sassano could possibly take it but there will wont be a high chance of dodging the attack.

I know more than you evidently. You overrate Guy it seems.

Do you know what the Gates even do? Or do you want me to explain it to you? That statement in the manga, "power greater than a kage", makes absolutely no sense at all. Do all the kages fight in taijutsu? If the answer is no then what does it matter? Let's compare Guy and Onoki. Onoki's taijutsu is pretty bad considering how old he is and how his back affects him. Surpassing his taijutsu skills doesn't seem like much of a feat.

Or does the Gates randomly give Guy access to an advanced version of Dust Release so that he has greater power than Onoki?

If you took things in context you would understand that.

You are wrong that Guy is the fastest in terms of speed as well. He is well below Naruto, A, and Bee in Hachibi cloak. That is just a pure straight fact. I can back it up with facts from the manga, can you? Or is it just your opinion because you like Guy?

I mean I get it, the dude only uses taijutsu and is an idiot. He is a likable character, but he isn't kage level, and opening the 8th Gate wouldn't make him better than all 5 kages at once (I'm looking at you OP :sy: )


You can try and debate this one, but you will lose.

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

The increase from one gate to a higher gate seems to be exponential. The 8th gate should have a tremendous impact on the 5 Kage vs Madara fight. The key to beating Madara is somehow sealing him permanently and with an 8gates Guy that should be easier. But, I would still bet on Madara coming out on top.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

The increase from one gate to a higher gate seems to be exponential. The 8th gate should have a tremendous impact on the 5 Kage vs Madara fight. The key to beating Madara is somehow sealing him permanently and with an 8gates Guy that should be easier. But, I would still bet on Madara coming out on top.

Of course adding anyone as a reinforcement would help the kages, but the Gates power is not exponential. That is not how they work at all.

According to the manga, a ninja normally uses 20% of their total chakra at an given time. That is what the chakra points are for in the chakra pathways. (this is what the Hyuuga hit with Gentle Fist to block chakra)

Anyway, there are 8 Gates, and each Gate allows for 10% more of the user's total chakra to be used at once, starting at the base 20% and moving up to 100%.

There are a few side-affects of this, like increased healing when first opening the Gates, increased blood flow, etc. but those don't really do much.

Where most of the power comes from is the user augmenting their speed and strength with chakra. Every ninja does it. Some do it for long periods of time, such as Naruto, Bee, and A.

Thus the more Gates that are opened, the more chakra can be used at once, thus making the user faster and stronger by augmenting those traits with even more chakra.

Follow me so far?

Since each Gate allows for more chakra to be used at once though, the time a user can stay in the Gates decreases with every Gate they open. I would assume it would be 1/8th of the time less for every Gate that opens, as there are only 8 Gates, but I guess it depends on what the user does while in the Gates. They could just stand there and not exert any chakra and theoretically stay in the 8 Gates forever.

That being said, Guy is thus limited by his chakra. Unlike A, Naruto, and Bee, all of whom have bijuu level chakras normally, with Bee and Naruto also having an actual bijuu inside of them to add to that, it is literally impossible for Guy to go as fast as them while in the Gates.

Do you see why I say people overrate the Gates?

 

[iamdsixth]

Of course adding anyone as a reinforcement would help the kages, but the Gates power is not exponential. That is not how they work at all.

According to the manga, a ninja normally uses 20% of their total chakra at an given time. That is what the chakra points are for in the chakra pathways. (this is what the Hyuuga hit with Gentle Fist to block chakra)

Anyway, there are 8 Gates, and each Gate allows for 10% more of the user's total chakra to be used at once, starting at the base 20% and moving up to 100%.

There are a few side-affects of this, like increased healing when first opening the Gates, increased blood flow, etc. but those don't really do much.

Where most of the power comes from is the user augmenting their speed and strength with chakra. Every ninja does it. Some do it for long periods of time, such as Naruto, Bee, and A.

Thus the more Gates that are opened, the more chakra can be used at once, thus making the user faster and stronger by augmenting those traits with even more chakra.

Follow me so far?

Since each Gate allows for more chakra to be used at once though, the time a user can stay in the Gates decreases with every Gate they open. I would assume it would be 1/8th of the time less for every Gate that opens, as there are only 8 Gates, but I guess it depends on what the user does while in the Gates. They could just stand there and not exert any chakra and theoretically stay in the 8 Gates forever.

That being said, Guy is thus limited by his chakra. Unlike A, Naruto, and Bee, all who have bijuu level chakras normally, with Bee and Naruto also having an actual bijuu inside of them to add to that, it is literally impossible for Guy to go as fast as them while in the Gates.

Do you see why I say people overrate the Gates?

Thank you for the well written intel about the Gates. All this thread points that his presense in the battlefield will maybe able to help the Kages. It is not about superiority of techniques.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Thank you for the well written intel about the Gates. All this thread points that his presense in the battlefield will maybe able to help the Kages. It is not about superiority of techniques.

I agree that he would be able to help. Having 3 taijutsu attackers would be good, especially if Onoki, Mei, and Gaara could keep their distance and keep Madara always under pressure by long range attacks to fill in the time when the taijutsu fighters aren't attacking.

I just disagreed with your bottom statement in your original post where you said, "Opening the 8th Gate gives the user power greater than the 5 kages." That is why I said you were overrating the Gates.

 

[iamdsixth]

Of course adding anyone as a reinforcement would help the kages, but the Gates power is not exponential. That is not how they work at all.

According to the manga, a ninja normally uses 20% of their total chakra at an given time. That is what the chakra points are for in the chakra pathways. (this is what the Hyuuga hit with Gentle Fist to block chakra)

Anyway, there are 8 Gates, and each Gate allows for 10% more of the user's total chakra to be used at once, starting at the base 20% and moving up to 100%.

There are a few side-affects of this, like increased healing when first opening the Gates, increased blood flow, etc. but those don't really do much.

Where most of the power comes from is the user augmenting their speed and strength with chakra. Every ninja does it. Some do it for long periods of time, such as Naruto, Bee, and A.

Thus the more Gates that are opened, the more chakra can be used at once, thus making the user faster and stronger by augmenting those traits with even more chakra.

Follow me so far?

Since each Gate allows for more chakra to be used at once though, the time a user can stay in the Gates decreases with every Gate they open. I would assume it would be 1/8th of the time less for every Gate that opens, as there are only 8 Gates, but I guess it depends on what the user does while in the Gates. They could just stand there and not exert any chakra and theoretically stay in the 8 Gates forever.

That being said, Guy is thus limited by his chakra. Unlike A, Naruto, and Bee, all who have bijuu level chakras normally, with Bee and Naruto also having an actual bijuu inside of them to add to that, it is literally impossible for Guy to go as fast as them while in the Gates.

Do you see why I say people overrate the Gates?

Thank you for the well written intel about the Gates. All this thread points that his presense in the battlefield will maybe able to help the Kages. It is not about superiority of techniques. I'll take "Ofcourse,adding anyone as reinforcement would help the Kages" as sarcasm.

 

[iamdsixth]

I agree that he would be able to help. Having 3 taijutsu attackers would be good, especially if Onoki, Mei, and Gaara could keep their distance and keep Madara always under pressure by long range attacks to fill in the time when the taijutsu fighters aren't attacking.

I just disagreed with your bottom statement in your original post where you said, "Opening the 8th Gate gives the user power greater than the 5 kages." That is why I said you were overrating the Gates.

To be honest, I realy did not understand what it meant."Power even beyond the 5 Kage". Notice that it stated "5 Kage"(without S). The first thing that ran in my mind was,"Stronger than 5 of them combined or individually?" Then your statement stated that "the abilities of the Gates are limited by the user's chakra" which cleared the confusion. It was basicaly why I quoted it,hoping for someone to elaborate more on the Gates. Thanks again.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

To be honest, I realy did not understand what it meant."Power even beyond the 5 Kage". Notice that it stated "5 Kage"(without S). The first thing that ran in my mind was,"Stronger than 5 of them combined or individually?" Then your statement stated that "the abilities of the Gates are limited by the user's chakra" which cleared the confusion. It was basicaly why I quoted it,hoping for someone to elaborate more on the Gates. Thanks again.

No problemo.

The Gates would be an amazing tool if used by someone who had a ton of chakra like Naruto, Bee, or A, but I guess Kishi wants to keep Guy and Lee unique.

Actually I have said before that Naruto is actually the perfect candidate for the Gates, as he would suffer from none of the drawbacks that usually come from the Gates.

-He has crazy increased healing due to the 9-tails, which would negate any muscle strain.
-His body is already used to dealing with high levels of chakra.
-He has tons of chakra, (even more with the 9-tails chakra), and so could stay in the Gates for even longer than anyone else could.

But Naruto with Gates speed and strength boost added to his BM would just be nuts. Nothing could even see him, let alone touch him.

 

[psukkar]

I know more than you evidently. You overrate Guy it seems.

Do you know what the Gates even do? Or do you want me to explain it to you? That statement in the manga, "power greater than a kage", makes absolutely no sense at all. Do all the kages fight in taijutsu? If the answer is no then what does it matter? Let's compare Guy and Onoki. Onoki's taijutsu is pretty bad considering how old he is and how his back affects him. Surpassing his taijutsu skills doesn't seem like much of a feat.

Or does the Gates randomly give Guy access to an advanced version of Dust Release so that he has greater power than Onoki?

If you took things in context you would understand that.

You are wrong that Guy is the fastest in terms of speed as well. He is well below Naruto, A, and Bee in Hachibi cloak. That is just a pure straight fact. I can back it up with facts from the manga, can you? Or is it just your opinion because you like Guy?

I mean I get it, the dude only uses taijutsu and is an idiot. He is a likable character, but he isn't kage level, and opening the 8th Gate wouldn't make him better than all 5 kages at once (I'm looking at you OP :sy: )


You can try and debate this one, but you will lose.

first before I try and talk you like a normal person unlike what u just gave me.
Yes naruto is faster but u don't need to be as fast a naruto now to help. Gai is fast, real fast and madara is just sitting there tanking. And I didnt take anything out of context because some the kages now like garra and Mei are being totally out classed. Gai can bring uncoventional things to the table that ur man Itachi on numberous occassions has said hes good. So take some advice from ur man.

Now,

Strong taijutsu has very little counters thats why being good in taijutsu is hard and very few ninja in the series have anywhere near as good taijutsu as Gai. Bascilyl u have to overpower Gai to beat him and if u cant well u cop it. Thats why Taijutsu if can get good at it its hax, now somelike can over power Gai but Gai doesnt have galring weaknesses that madara can exploit like madara has done with some the kages techs like the dust techs. Gai could actually give madara a attack and madara would have to takle it on as oppose to negating it.

The 8 gates is strong, u can be in denial all u want. He has the speed and the power. He can take care of himself, didnt u see when Gai wanted to take on the 6 host with the 8 gates.

The kages like onoki need backup because they have to tank madara's attacks because they cant dodge them in time. So far they been just tanking attacks and trying to do damage at the same time.

Gai like minato can attack and evade if need be and try different ways to attack without the fear of being caught by a counter attack like in the case of edo madara vs the kages now. Speed and power is good combo that can help in any situation, get with the program. Dont know why u brag up the "stronger than a kage" thing because I was just commenting based on how gai dominates his opponets. He can attack with great power and speed without fearing counter attacks.

Not saying he can own madara or anything but he can help for sure they need some fire power now without risks to throw at madara. Madara counters the dust techs with his rinnegan this is the kages best attack. They need something different to get past the rinnegans defenses, if they had high powered taijutsu that could work. Taijutsu is soemthing ninjas dont expect and Gai's taijutsu is epic scale.

If u cant see how Gai can help in fights like with the kages then ur just not seeing why Gai is unquie in the series. Even if gai sacrifces himself just to setup an openning to seal edo madara that is more enough to give prasise.

 

[Suigetsu13]

He hasn't entered the eighth gate yet. I think he's only in the seventh one.

 

[flobayz]

I know more than you evidently. You overrate Guy it seems.

Do you know what the Gates even do? Or do you want me to explain it to you? That statement in the manga, "power greater than a kage", makes absolutely no sense at all. Do all the kages fight in taijutsu? If the answer is no then what does it matter? Let's compare Guy and Onoki. Onoki's taijutsu is pretty bad considering how old he is and how his back affects him. Surpassing his taijutsu skills doesn't seem like much of a feat.

Or does the Gates randomly give Guy access to an advanced version of Dust Release so that he has greater power than Onoki?

If you took things in context you would understand that.

You are wrong that Guy is the fastest in terms of speed as well. He is well below Naruto, A, and Bee in Hachibi cloak. That is just a pure straight fact. I can back it up with facts from the manga, can you? Or is it just your opinion because you like Guy?

I mean I get it, the dude only uses taijutsu and is an idiot. He is a likable character, but he isn't kage level, and opening the 8th Gate wouldn't make him better than all 5 kages at once (I'm looking at you OP :sy: )


You can try and debate this one, but you will lose.

Releasing the 8 inner gates is a technique that only those who have mastered tai jutsu to the highest point of human perfection can use. Which is why only lee and guy can use it in the manga. Yes guy is an idiot who cannot use ninjutsu, but naruto is an idiot too, yet he does the right thing at d right time. Using d 8 gates may not make him better than d 5 kage. But even kakashi said using the 8 gates gives u power equal to that of kages. At that time, d most destructive fight dat had taken place btw kages or rather a kage, and someone was d fight at d valley btw madara and hashi, and we know d destruction dat took place dere.
How can u say dat naruto and bee can use d gates when their taijutsu is nothing compared to guy? When lee used the 5 gates in his fight against gaara, even kakashi with his sharingan couldn't track his movements. We saw how d gates enhance ur reflexes in guy's fight against kisame, and reflexes r just what is needed to face edo madara. Besides guy and kakashi held off 3 tailed beasts each. Which of the present kages will stand when facing a tailed beast. Probably just raikage. Guy's afternoon tiger will takes on perfect susanoo. I am nt a guy fan. But I recognise talent when I see it. Guy is the best tai jutsu user in the naruto series, and he'll stand a huge chance against edo madara. Almost 4got using d eight gates does nt give u tai jutsu dat is kage level. It enhances your tai jutsu to attain the destructive power that the kages weild