Nagato was meant to be more haxxed than Hashi and Madara.

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nagato cant dodge because he lacks mobility. u think kabuto justt likes all his edos getting hit by attacks ofc not. he will do what the edos can do within their power


i am not going to argue about hashi winning like i said we didnt see all his feats but hashi's tech puts him in a disadvantage. dont make it into a hashi vs nagato thread

we dont all his powers all we kno is that he has mokuton, he heals himself and has bringer of darkness but thats not all of it as its been clear in the manga. but his bringer of darkness puts a serious dent even his summons cant see due to it and its a decently fast tech making everyone blind it gives hashi an advantage

but u go in a full detailed matchup which is not what i was even trying to do but only explain how one power is very effective on nagato



Nagato doesn't have to dodge ANYthing,

He has preta to absorb incoming attacks, and shinra tensei to reflect, Also a shit load of summonings, aka head splitting etc also

Gedo mazo

Homing rockets and much much much more
 

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Are you stupid? Nagato before he died, which is obviously what this Thread is about, Not edo nagato,

Has gedo mazo, with 7 bijuu he collected..
obviously i am not including that in his matchup with hashi as u dont include hashirama having multiple beasts that he collected and eventually gave to other countries. they are from two different eras and both controlled the beasts in their era. i was comparing them at base. but if u include that in a fight yea its a different story
 

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obviously i am not including that in his matchup with hashi as u dont include hashirama having multiple beasts that he collected and eventually gave to other countries. they are from two different eras and both controlled the beasts in their era. i was comparing them at base. but if u include that in a fight yea its a different story
No, that's what nagato had before he died.. Don't be ridiculous,

Edo nagato is part of kabuto's power...
Nagato last time I checked has\d gedo mazo as his summoning

You are bringing scans of nagato when he was a kid?

Total and utter bulshit
 

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Nagato doesn't have to dodge ANYthing,

He has preta to absorb incoming attacks, and shinra tensei to reflect, Also a shit load of summonings, aka head splitting etc also

Gedo mazo

Homing rockets and much much much more
and kabuto wasnt able to react in that time we have no real evidence if nagato himself can do that. and when his shared vision was down he couldnt stop itachi's sussano a ninjutsu attack. when his shared vision his ability to counter things is worse its that simple as kabuto stated. and hashi has good tech to allow him no vision and that puts him in a bad spot its that simple. i am not saying he will win since hashi's full potential is still unknown
 

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No, that's what nagato had before he died.. Don't be ridiculous,

Edo nagato is part of kabuto's power...
Nagato last time I checked has\d gedo mazo as his summoning

You are bringing scans of nagato when he was a kid?

Total and utter bulshit
when did i say its not his power but except the tailed beasts is technically something that can be argued to be hashi's power or nagato's since they both had it under control at one point or the other. get what i am saying in his own era hashi himself collected the bijus and distributed it. hashi too had control of the bijus but later didnt as simple as that similar to nagato. what u r saying is nagato has the power of bijus but hashi doesnt have it when he did at one point thats why i said i dont consider it since it doesnt make sense for them both to control bijus in a matchup
 
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Nagato doesn't have to dodge ANYthing,

He has preta to absorb incoming attacks, and shinra tensei to reflect, Also a shit load of summonings, aka head splitting etc also

Gedo mazo

Homing rockets and much much much more
If nagato is in the I mobile state, uses gedo mazo....he dies...
 

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If nagato is in the I mobile state, uses gedo mazo....he dies...

there are 7 bijuu in the gedo mazo
are you crazy?

when did i say its not his power but except the tailed beasts is technically something that can be argued to be hashi's power or nagato's since they both had it under control at one point or the other. get what i am saying in his own era hashi himself collected the bijus and distributed it. hashi too had control of the bijus but later didnt as simple as that similar to nagato. what u r saying is nagato has the power of bijus but hashi doesnt have it when he did at one point thats why i said i dont consider it since it doesnt make sense for them both to control bijus in a matchup

Did i say you can't use the bijuu in a fight?

You simply have no evidence as to HOW exactly he could "control" the bijuu, how long, how efficently, Nothing, You don';t know if he could do them all at one time, nothing..


I have 0 problem with you using Madara with kyuubi , We know how madara uses kyuubi however


 
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there are 7 bijuu in the gedo mazo
are you crazy?



Did i say you can't use the bijuu in a fight?

You simply have no evidence as to HOW exactly he could "control" the bijuu, how long, how efficently, Nothing, You don';t know if he could do them all at one time, nothing..
yes but we knew he could control them like pets as said by oro. and danzo mentioned that he is able to control bijus as well. And as i said i never said i am proving hashi beats nagato but only saying how one tech is very effective on him and a lot of his powers from post 1 due to the fact that we are in a mystery about a lot of his powers. but u keep trying to make debate beyond it which i didnt even argue for
 

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Nagato would beat both of them.
He'd throw Perfect Susanoo, The Uchiha Fanboy's God, on a dinner plate, and use Preta Path. He'd beat Hashirama too.
I don't get why people Underrate Nagato because he wasn't Overrated in the Flashbacks.

AND ABOUT TOBI...
Think about it, Tobi wasn't acting like how he's acting now when Nagato was still alive, now wasn't he? It's like he was scared of him at the beginning, and once Nagato died, Tobi acted like he was a Boss. Weird huh?
 

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In terms of power:

Being a God>being a myth

Preta Path> Susano'o and Mokuton

Shinra Tensai> Any projectile, jutsu or tool

CT>Every offensive jutsu except for a TBB
 

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Well that's because it's all relative to the story-line. The villains have to keep getting stronger and stronger. For example, Zabuza was bad ass years ago and now he's fodder level. And the story will only continue to one-up whoever it passes because if not it would get boring and the protagonist would be wayyy too strong. Besides, how weird would it be to see Naruto walk up to someone and snap their neck like nobodys business? You need some effort and a challenge for a good story.
 

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In terms of power:

Being a God>being a myth

Preta Path> Susano'o and Mokuton

Shinra Tensai> Any projectile, jutsu or tool

CT>Every offensive jutsu except for a TBB
F*cking fan boys I swear.....

Preta path can't absorb life (Mukton) nor is it fast enough to absorbs a susanoo before its stomped on...
 

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F*cking fan boys I swear.....

Preta path can't absorb life (Mukton) nor is it fast enough to absorbs a susanoo before its stomped on...

Dumb ass, It's given life by chakra, it has chakra running through it just as ninjas all have chakra running through them

If preta touches a ninja, it can drain them of their chakra and kill them once they reach 0

It was doing that to naruto

You know NOTHING, of what you are talking about, Moukoton is NINJUTSU
 
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