[Theory] Is Uchiha Madara a Title not a man

[Sage Binder]

Hey There,
Kinda new to this so sorry if I don't follow etiquette.

I've been thinking Madara is everywhere throughout the timeline of the Naruto universe. so what if he is not a man what if he is a title like Kage?
so Tobi may not be a complete liar, yes Madara did attack Konoha but Tobi the current Madara did not and the stories he tells of Madara are taken from the previous 'masters' knowledge and actions.

I do believe the name originates from the original so Uchiha Madara edo (that we see today) is the true Uchiha Madara.

what sparked this thought in me again is the fact that as soon as Madara (true Madara) returned Tobi proclaimed himself as a man with no name, so possibly he felt he lost his status and why he feared/was shocked when Kabuto showed him in essence his senior/master.

my thinking is along the lines of Sith lords to apprentice, a hidden power that the world fears by name, even without knowing for fact, (hence the current war) so the title gets passed down whether the apprentice is brainwashed or honoured to carry on the name of a legend and continue his plans.

I'm interested to hear peoples point of view and I'm sorry if I have missed something that proves this wrong but I have had this thought for a long time while reading the manga and really want to hear other opinions.

P.S if this has been in a previous thread please link below as I want to hear peoples views

 

[TobisPawn]

Madara isn't Tobi's senior or master. But nah, I disagree. Uchiha Madara was/is a living person, and an actual name.

But welcome!

 

[Kirikoe]

..... welcome to the base .............. but still smh

 

[NOemotions]

tobi didn't fear when he saw madara in coffin, he was shocked cuz kabuto knew about tobi AINT real madara like he said he was.. 'real' madara and tobi HAVE a same plan.. like madara said ' do you know about our plans too?' madara is feared powerful ninja that's why tobi used he's name because people did not know for 100% sure that he was dead, once 'real'madara got resurrected and came to battleground tobi knew he can stop calling himself as madara and he can kept hes identity as secret..

 

[DemonRyuu]

Honestly I say "The Masked Man" is just posing as Madara to gain fear because Madara is one of the most feared men in history of the Naruto Universe. But it does make you think for the fact that "The Masked Man" has the sharingan and he knows the history on just about everyone. But the one thing that gets to me is "The Masked Man" took control of Kurama when Naruto was born, Kurama called him Madara.

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

A very interesting theory and a good first post. I don't think it's correct, Madara was just Madara. However, kudos to you for originality.

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[ProjectOuterspace]

This is a good idea.

Because Madara knew that Tobi was continuing the plan. I can easily see it as a Sith thing.


A master and apprentice. As for the name being a title I think that Tobi, the one using the name Madara, see's it as a title while the rest of the world does not know about what is going on so they all see it as one person.

 

[Sage Binder]

Madara isn't Tobi's senior or master. But nah, I disagree. Uchiha Madara was/is a living person, and an actual name.

But welcome!

I agree with you i believe it is a man not just a name so Uchiha Madara did exists, his ideals and legacy must of been passed down somehow to reach Tobi so there could be more than one person. I do not think they are direct master and pupil but across time and a sequence of men/(uchiha madaras hidden diary ) he knows the information.

 

[IzunaUchiha2]

Welcome to base though
nahhh

 

[temitope]

i believe madara and tobi aare connected in some way, they seem almost like tobi is a continuation of madara's will, maybe he was his apprentice or servant or something and now he's completing his masters will, either that or tobi uses the name madara as a psychological weapon to instill fear in people

 

[DemonRyuu]

Another idea i have which i don't know if anyone has thought of it yet but, what if "The Masked Man" is actually Madara's Son

 

[Prime Rib]

to the person who made this thread you are a idiot get help ASAP thanks


PS. Madara was a real person

 

[Sage Binder]

Another idea i have which i don't know if anyone has thought of it yet but, what if "The Masked Man" is actually Madara's Son

I really like this idea, never even slightly considered he could have a son :sy:

to the person who made this thread you are a idiot get help ASAP thanks


PS. Madara was a real person

Sorry I have realised that my post wasn't clear,
I know Madara was a real person.
but lets say that he wanted to carry on his ideals so he passed them on to an apprentice who then handed it down again until reaching Tobi.

Hence Tobi being able to claim he is Madara and still not done everything 'Uchiha Madara' has been known to do.

 

[p0002q]

to the person who made this thread you are a idiot get help ASAP thanks


PS. Madara was a real person

Ignore this person. I've seen them post a lot of hate posts and stuff such as "too long" or "didn't read".

They also, very obviously, missed the original idea of the OP.

Tsunade and Hashirama... both HOKAGE.... but different people.

OP idea.... X and Y ... both MADARA .... but different people.


I disagree with it, but I have to admit it is a new idea, and I think it's a gr8 concept.


If you're interested, I can PM you my theory behind edo Madara + Tobi, but might be lengthy

 

[Timiursa]

Dont think so... it's not dumb or anything (after you explained what you meant; the title got me like O_Owhat? ) but I think Madara is Madara and thats that.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Honestly I say "The Masked Man" is just posing as Madara to gain fear because Madara is one of the most feared men in history of the Naruto Universe. But it does make you think for the fact that "The Masked Man" has the sharingan and he knows the history on just about everyone. But the one thing that gets to me is "The Masked Man" took control of Kurama when Naruto was born, Kurama called him Madara.

Not really, kurama only says "you" then is cut off when tobi takes control of him.

 

[SO7P]

so Tobi may not be a complete liar, yes Madara did attack Konoha but Tobi the current Madara did not and the stories he tells of Madara are taken from the previous 'masters' knowledge and actions.

Interesting. I wonder what does Madara mean when he first talked about Nagato before he fight the five kage(s). I think there's something happen between Pein,Madara and Tobi that perhaps even Kabuto didn't know it.