Uchiha clan ancestor eyes ?

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It is worth noting that Perfect Susanoo looks a lot like the Uchiha clan ancestor.
 

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the elder son inherited the sages eyes. that is the rinnegan.
 

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It's rinnegan, not EMS :sy:
 

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Well, we know that he inherited the Sage's "eyes" — his powerful chakra and spiritual energy. Now, I believe that he had the purest form of Yin energy, and the So6P had the Rinnegan, which suggests that the Rinnegan requires both Yin (Spiritual) and Yang (Physical) energy. Because the Elder son was directly related to the Sage, he inherited the purest form of his DNA, so he obtained the full amount of Yin chakra. Remember, in the manga it states that over time the DNA from these ancestors became diluted as other clans formed. Thus, Uchihas nowadays are not born automatically having Mangekyou or Eternal Mangekyou Sharingans. So far, the highest form of dojutsu before the Rinnegan is indeed the EMS, and the EMS is said to evolve into the Rinnegan. Logically, I believe that the Elder son must've had the EMS, because he gained the purest form of Yin energy from the Sage, and so got the highest form of dojutsu without actually being able to achieve the Rinnegan (he lacked Yang energy) - He was the bearer of the first EMS.

this seems pretty realistic, now that i think about it.
btw- what's up with the font? you didnt do that before >_>
 

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Personally i think its is just like a cave drawing or taken from an ancient scroll = just a representation of his spinning wheel eyes
 

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Well, we know that he inherited the Sage's "eyes" — his powerful chakra and spiritual energy. Now, I believe that he had the purest form of Yin energy, and the So6P had the Rinnegan, which suggests that the Rinnegan requires both Yin (Spiritual) and Yang (Physical) energy. Because the Elder son was directly related to the Sage, he inherited the purest form of his DNA, so he obtained the full amount of Yin chakra. Remember, in the manga it states that over time the DNA from these ancestors became diluted as other clans formed. Thus, Uchihas nowadays are not born automatically having Mangekyou or Eternal Mangekyou Sharingans. So far, the highest form of dojutsu before the Rinnegan is indeed the EMS, and the EMS is said to evolve into the Rinnegan. Logically, I believe that the Elder son must've had the EMS, because he gained the purest form of Yin energy from the Sage, and so got the highest form of dojutsu without actually being able to achieve the Rinnegan (he lacked Yang energy) - He was the bearer of the first EMS.

you dont need senju dna for the rinnegan as their is no evidence pointing to it. the elder son inherited the sages eyes. the rinnegan are the sages eyes. the uchiha have the sages eyes. they dont need the senju to unlock their own power. the elder son had the rinnegan but no senju dna. that proves it all.
 

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this seems pretty realistic, now that i think about it.
btw- what's up with the font? you didnt do that before >_>

Just like using it.

you dont need senju dna for the rinnegan as their is no evidence pointing to it. the elder son inherited the sages eyes. the rinnegan are the sages eyes. the uchiha have the sages eyes. they dont need the senju to unlock their own power. the elder son had the rinnegan but no senju dna. that proves it all.

Your evidence is where exactly? I've got Madara gaining the Rinnegan after obtaining Hashirama's DNA. You?
 

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i think they need a dna of an uzumaki or a senju maybe cause uzumaki had inherited the dna of hashirama because of mito uzumaki
 

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you dont need senju dna for the rinnegan as their is no evidence pointing to it. the elder son inherited the sages eyes. the rinnegan are the sages eyes. the uchiha have the sages eyes. they dont need the senju to unlock their own power. the elder son had the rinnegan but no senju dna. that proves it all.

His eyes don't look like a Rinnegan...
 

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you dont need senju dna for the rinnegan as their is no evidence pointing to it. the elder son inherited the sages eyes. the rinnegan are the sages eyes. the uchiha have the sages eyes. they dont need the senju to unlock their own power. the elder son had the rinnegan but no senju dna. that proves it all.

Dude this is not at all what he was talking about. It is a logical implication, but his explanation of why the elder brother had the EMS was based on yin and yang energy.
 
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it's probably less powerful version of the rinnegan because the blood started to thin

and the older son only inherited the spiritual chakra maybe adding yang chakra would make him have the rinnegan like the sage had both yin and yang chakra
 

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I must say, I like the EMS theory.

But I also think the swirly design of the Elder son's Rinnegan might be the result of an artistic style Kishi tried to create. He probably wanted to make the images of the two brothers seem ancient. The ancient Egyptians, Minoans, Chinese, etc had their own artistic styles. And most people can recognize that these kind of images are from older times. Kishi probably wanted to create such an effect when he drew those two portraits.
 

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Just like using it.



Your evidence is where exactly? I've got Madara gaining the Rinnegan after obtaining Hashirama's DNA. You?

what kind of evidence is that? thats like me saying that naruto learned rasengan after he had kurama sealed in him so he needs kurama to use rasengan. my evidence is that the rinnegan are the sages eyes and the uchiha have what? the sages eyes. the elder son had the rinnegan but no senju dna.
 

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its the combination of all 3 great dojutsu
 
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