[Debate] When does life start?

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So when does life start?

*Does it start when the sperm and egg fuse to become 46 Chromosomes and then start dividing?

*Does it start when the embryo's heart starts beating?

*Does it start when all vital organs are present in the embryo?

*Does it start when the baby is out of the mother and breathing air?

So when do YOU say life begins?






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You can easily google the answer There is only one answer to the question.Why even make this type of thread ? Nobodies opinions matter ON THE SUBJECT because there is only 1 answer if their is anything more wrong then most of the options you put up there its peoples opinions/beliefs which last the time i check are not facts.



Report me if you think this is meant to be hurtful even though it is not meant to be so
i simply want to know why your presenting multiple answers while trying to masquerade it as a scientific question because it defeats the purpose
 
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life starts at conception
you do realize "conception" itelf is a vague term, the fact that masterbation excretes a "half-human" would be considered murder no? or premadetated murder.or in a very specific case were parthenogenesis happens i will summarize for those who dont know what this is

-A process called haploidisation is used to remove one of the two sets of chromosomes from some cells leaving them with only one, just like normal gametes. The researchers led by Tomohiro Kono at the Tokyo University of Agriculture used cells from two different female mice and combined them to make a single unique animal. Normally this would not be possible due to genetic imprinting requiring genes inherited from the father for normal placental development. They were able to succeed by using one egg from an immature parent, thus reducing maternal imprinting, and modifying it to express the gene Igf2, which is normally only expressed by the paternal copy of the gene. Even with this, only two of 457 eggs developed to maturity.

conception never happens and therefore your definition of life doesnt exist
 

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I'm voting for conception. Abortion is one of those things future generations will look back at and be disgusted with, like we are with slavery.

you do realize "conception" itelf is a vague term, the fact that masterbation excretes a "half-human" would be considered murder no? or premadetated murder.or in a very specific case were parthenogenesis happens i will summarize for those who dont know what this is

-A process called haploidisation is used to remove one of the two sets of chromosomes from some cells leaving them with only one, just like normal gametes. The researchers led by Tomohiro Kono at the Tokyo University of Agriculture used cells from two different female mice and combined them to make a single unique animal. Normally this would not be possible due to genetic imprinting requiring genes inherited from the father for normal placental development. They were able to succeed by using one egg from an immature parent, thus reducing maternal imprinting, and modifying it to express the gene Igf2, which is normally only expressed by the paternal copy of the gene. Even with this, only two of 457 eggs developed to maturity.

conception never happens and therefore your definition of life doesnt exist
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Sperm isn't half of a human. That's like saying a battery is half of a watch. A watch is far more complex than just the battery and a human is far more complex than sperm. Humans are so much more complex than sperm that humans start to make sperm, can a watch make a watch? I'm sure a battery is more of a watch than sperm is of a human. Also a Human is more than his/her body. Just because a person may be missing his/her legs does that make he/she any less human?

Sperm becomes waste if it isn't used to fertilize an egg and thousands of sperm die during the fertilization process because only one can fertilize the egg. By your logic everyone that has a baby or tries and fails to have a baby should be tried and convicted of murder. Sodomy and oral *** resulting in ejaculation, condoms, birth control pills, and some surgeries that prevent pregnancy would all become illegal.

Second, coping and pasting things doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
 
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I'm voting for conception. Abortion is one of those things future generations will look back at and be disgusted with, like we are with slavery.



The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Sperm becomes waste if it isn't used to fertilize an egg and thousands of sperm die during the fertilization process because only one can fertilize the egg. By your logic everyone that has a baby or tries and fails to have a baby should be tried and convicted of murder. Sodomy and oral *** resulting in ejaculation, condoms, birth control pills, and some surgeries that prevent pregnancy would all become illegal.

Second, coping and pasting things doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
i copied and pasted becuase i didn know how to explain with out seeming like a babbling idoit and the fact that you commented about my ;ack of knowledge shows me you have even less
 

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i copied and pasted becuase i didn know how to explain with out seeming like a babbling idoit and the fact that you commented about my ;ack of knowledge shows me you have even less
You don't know how to stop from seeming like a babbling idiot (you misspelled that btw) but I'm the one who isn't as intelligent as you are. Do you know what idiot means or where it came from?

Your suddenly poor typing skills lead me to believe you're angry.
You mad bro?
 

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You don't know how to stop from seeming like a babbling idiot (you misspelled that btw) but I'm the one who isn't as intelligent as you are. Do you know what idiot means or where it came from?

Your suddenly poor typing skills lead me to believe you're angry.
You mad bro?
its time for me to stop responding when the entire subject of a post is about my spelling
 

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Scientifically, after the fertilisation and the formation of a human embryo.
a cell is a living organism. sperm cells and egg cells are living organisms since they are cells so life begins even before fertilization.
There is a difference between parts of a human being that only possess "human life" and a human embryo or human fetus that is an actual human being. If a single sperm or egg cell were implanted into a womb, they would not grow as human embryos or fetuses, but simply decay.
 
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I say the moment is inside the females.... (I forgot, private area or something). If you don't think about it, life starts when you have accept it or sometimes don't recognize that it has already started at some point of your life.
 

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You can easily google the answer There is only one answer to the question.Why even make this type of thread ? Nobodies opinions matter ON THE SUBJECT because there is only 1 answer if their is anything more wrong then most of the options you put up there its peoples opinions/beliefs which last the time i check are not facts.



Report me if you think this is meant to be hurtful even though it is not meant to be so
i simply want to know why your presenting multiple answers while trying to masquerade it as a scientific question because it defeats the purpose
We are allowed to have discussion about our opinions in a civil manner no?

Just checking....
 

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I think there is a difference from when you start life, and when you start living.....

You start life when you are born (Out of the mothers womb)

You start living when you find a purpose.. When you know what to do etc..
 
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