Naruto sage mode vs sasuke and itachi

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3 FRS isn't exactly what i would call a barrage, again check how many FRS he can use in sage mode, it is not enough to create a barrage( Against Pein he could only use 3 and was left exhausted). Anything rasengan cannot get past yata mirror. If you say that the clones surround him, sasuke is there to burn them ( Clones behind Itachi), limiting the amount of rasengan he intends to use in his barrage.
Yeah, 3FRS times 11 is a barrage.

This was when Naruto didn't have Kurama's chakra and later when he was forcefully stealing it, current Naruto practically has infinite chakra and could probably create hundreds of FRS and not sweat it. He's already provento be able to create at least 30 with little bits of Kurama's charka, and over 1,000 Chou Odama Rasengan in base again and again.

You say nothing can get past Itachi's susano'o yet you've given nothing to back it up, and Yata Mirro cannot cover the entirety of Susano'o, Sasuke's amaterasu is not killing thousand sof clones and they will just be dispersed.
 

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while they are in the air the clones get amaterasu. it;s not like they will stand there and take the jutsu like Kurama did. And wasn't he holding Kurama in that pic^
While they are in the air????

Did you not see the size comparison? The clones and the ultra bigballs eclipsed karum and he is more or less the height of a mountain and his area roughly covers that of konoha itself. I have yet so see itachi and sasuke produce an amaterasu that can engulf the entire leaf.

Karuma was held onto after the impact, also tell me how they are going to dodge an attack of that magnitude?
 
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I thought this thread was settled. Joki in your threads you made some good points about naruto, you even made me reconsider his power.

IMO you overate him and must realize his limits. To say he can solo the Uchiha bro's with just SM is bizarre.

Kabuto who has a better SM, an actual counter for genjutsu, Sound 5, Taka +Orochimaru in him could not defeat the bros.

To debate is one thing, to continue spewing things about a character you really like even in defeat is absurd.
 

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I thought this thread was settled. Joki in your threads you made some good points about naruto, you even made me reconsider his power.

IMO you overate him and must realize his limits. To say he can solo the Uchiha bro's with just SM is bizarre.

Kabuto who has a better SM, an actual counter for genjutsu, Sound 5, Taka +Orochimaru in him could not defeat the bros.

To debate is one thing, to continue spewing things about a character you really like even in defeat is absurd.
Kabuto has a better sage mode than naruto!!?? Kabuto's sage mode is not even comparable with naruto's.

We don't even no if it's a senjutsu sage mode, if it was he would have been able to sense sasuke and itachi much more efficiently than he did, and he would have known he was in a genjutsu when itachi trapped him.

also kabuto, before he went all serp, was not as strong as naruto nowhere near, so his sage mode can't be stronger.



Is this a joke? SM Naruto would lose to both Sasuke and Itachi indivdually IMO. Together they completely stomp him.
sickly itachi vs sage mode naruto wins?

Sasuke who has not even fully mastered all of his EMS techs beats naruto who has mastered sage mode?

I think if you recall the size and power of naruto's sage art techs then you will change your mind.
 
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sickly itachi vs sage mode naruto wins?
Yes he does, but I'm not going to bother giving an explanation to a naruto fanboy/troll.

Sasuke who has not even fully mastered all of his EMS techs beats naruto who has mastered sage mode?

I think if you recall the size and power of naruto's sage art techs then you will change your mind.
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Sasuke's now a step above that level, so that's all there is to it. I could give a better explanation, but I don't feel the need to when it's clear you're a pretty bad troll.
 

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Yes he does, but I'm not going to bother giving an explanation to a naruto fanboy/troll.



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Sasuke's now a step above that level, so that's all there is to it. I could give a better explanation, but I don't feel the need to when it's clear you're a pretty bad troll.
You are obviously an itachi fanboy who could not formulate an argument and so used that excuse.

That scan means that naruto can not beat sasuke in sage mode? So I guess when ever naruto says he can beat someone it is also true :rolleyes:

This is naruto saying he would not even have been able to defeat sasukes severely weakened state and you use this as a logical argument, just how strong do you think sasuke is?
 
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You are obviously an itachi fanboy who could not formulate an argument and so used that excuse.

That scan means that naruto can not beat sasuke in sage mode? So I guess when ever naruto says he can beat someone it is also true :rolleyes:

This is naruto saying he would not even have been able to defeat sasukes severely weakened state and you use this as a logical argument, just how strong do you think sasuke is?
As I said you're not worth my time. And I'm far far from an Itachi or Sasuke fan, but go ahead and resort to name calling if you'd like because it simply proves to me how much of a pathetic troll you are. Anybody that knows me on here knows how well I debate, so your opinion means next to nothing to me.

If I really wanted to I could easily pick apart your argument, but as I said I don't waste my time with trolls, which you happen to be.
 

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As I said you're not worth my time. And I'm far far from an Itachi or Sasuke fan, but go ahead and resort to name calling if you'd like because it simply proves to me how much of a pathetic troll you are. Anybody that knows me on here knows how well I debate, so your opinion means next to nothing to me.

If I really wanted to I could easily pick apart your argument, but as I said I don't waste my time with trolls, which you happen to be.
If your argument is as strong as claim you should not have to resort to meaningless forms of appeals to authority and ad hominems. "I could pick your argument apart if I wanted to, but I am just to brilliant to waste time on a troll like", quite respectable...

if an imbecile says 1 + 1 is 2 the world is doomed if they agree with the man that states otherwise due to his intellectual reputation, leave if you want, I won't miss you lol :rolleyes:.



I guess a website of trolls exist ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^, this was discussed even before naruto used sage art rassens to fight karuma.
 
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I thought this thread was settled. Joki in your threads you made some good points about naruto, you even made me reconsider his power.

IMO you overate him and must realize his limits. To say he can solo the Uchiha bro's with just SM is bizarre.

Kabuto who has a better SM, an actual counter for genjutsu, Sound 5, Taka +Orochimaru in him could not defeat the bros.

To debate is one thing, to continue spewing things about a character you really like even in defeat is absurd.
Well like you said that is your opinion, and in my opinion it's not me who's overrating Naruto but everyone else who seems to overrate the Uchiha brothers. Kishi has implied time and time again that Naruto was much stronger than either of the two at the time, and Itachi had no chance of ever beating Pain, ever.

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Naruto has Kurama's chakra, with near infinite chakra and the ability to spam thousands of clones countless times. And he has perfect Sage Mode unlike the Pain fight. Kurama gave Naruto a very small fraction of his chakra and one of his clones created 1000 Chou Odama Rasengan in an instant despite being horridly exhausted, and that was base Naruto.

Naruto also has a counter for genjutsu, re-read the fight in which Shoten Itachi fought Kakashi, Sakura, Naruto and Chiyo. Kakashi fooled Itachi with a bunshin feint and proved that genjutsu doesn['t work on clones. After repeated encounter and in a serious NarutoBase Battle situation Naruto will not be affected by genjutsu, they can't hurt him, and no one has given any convincing counter to any of Naruto's haxed techniques which give him the win in the first place.

Maybe the SM Naruto from the Pain fight would lose but this is far from that. Current Base Naruto is a fight for the Pain version of SM Naruto.

Oh yeah and not to edit too late but in response to your last sentence, Naruto's cool and all but he's by far my favorite character and he's not a character I'd wank on VS threads. If he gets beaten I'd gladly admit it, but as of yet he's really, really, really, really powerful.
 
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meh, if Sage Kabuto did it, then Sage Naruto could too. And he wouldn't lose to izanami because he's not ignorant like Kabuto was. Naruto takes this, high difficulty.
 

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Genjutsu isn't working, just like Kabuto he's a sensor now and he has a load of clones.

Susanoo wouldn't work either, if he can dodge the 3rd Raikage he can dodge Susanoo just like Kabuto.

Itachi's amaterasu wouldn't work since he can't manipulate it, he would have to figure out which the real Naruto is. Sasuke stands a better chance with amaterasu because of blaze release.

Naruto can make 1,000 clones with his base mode, stated when he met Itachi. He could do that and have them all go into sm. I don't see the Sasuke surviving a rasengan barrage, Itachi has Yata mirror but it only protects the front.

Naruto could take them high diff just like Kabuto.
 

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Yes he does, but I'm not going to bother giving an explanation to a naruto fanboy/troll.



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Sasuke's now a step above that level, so that's all there is to it. I could give a better explanation, but I don't feel the need to when it's clear you're a pretty bad troll.
that quote was to make sure nobody else fought Sasuke, cause Naruto doesn't want Sasuke to die. Everyone else's goal would be to kill Sasuke and Naruto doesn't want that, that's why he said that.

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Before that he said they'd both die, now he said he'd lose. He's obviously making up reasons for everyone to stay out of this conflict between them.

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Right here Sasuke say's "madara, you and I need to talk" after listening to Naruto. He's probably thinking, "holy crap, something tells me Naruto actually knows what he's doing and I might have to get stronger to repel his ideals.

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Right here even Sakura and Neji are both thinking Naruto is acting suspicious about contradicting himself(saying they'd both die, then saying he's weaker than Sasuke)

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Plus afterwords when he walked away he had a suspicious look on his face. Probably thinking, "god I hope everyone bought that..."
 

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Man, this Joki is going balls to the wall on this thread...trollololol
Yeah, people are just butthurt I can instantly convert people to Narutoism.

Even though I'm a strict follower of Jiraiyaism, it's pretty cool that I can convert religions like that.

To quote the holy Jiraible:
Book of Bijuu, Chapter 7. Verse 5-10:​
5As the prophet Joki masterfully spoke his words, prophets of Uchiha began to question their ways and follow the way of Uzumaki. He confidently spoke, "Nay, I am not a follower of Uzumaki, 6 art thou envious of my abilities? I hath followed the art of Jiraiya-sama since I was a child, our holy savior." 7The Uzumaki Followers again questioned themselves. "It is not beyond my ability for you to see into the light. No matter who is the savior in question. 8Be not afraid for I am the messenger of our lord and I approve of your ways. 9Begone with the vile, Uchiha be damned!" 10The Uzumaki followers cheered in unison as the remaining Prophets of Uchiha were burned and sacrificed to the Gods Uzumaki Naruto and Jiraiya-sama.​
 
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Yeah, people are just butthurt I can instantly convert people to Narutoism.

Even though I'm a strict follower of Jiraiyaism, it's pretty cool that I can convert religions like that.

To quote the holy Jiraible:
Book of Bijuu, Chapter 7. Verse 5-11:​
As the prophet Joki masterfully spoke his words, prophets of Uchiha began to question their ways and follow the way of Uzumaki. He confidently spoke, "Nay, I am not a follower of Uzumaki, art thou envious of my abilities? I hath followed the art of Jiraiya-sama since I was a child, our holy savior." The Uzumaki Followers again questioned themselves. "It is not beyond my ability for you to see into the light. No matter who is the savior in question. Be not afraid for I am the messenger of our lord and I approve of your ways. Begone with the vile, Uchiha be damned!" The Uzumaki followers cheered in unison as the remaining Prophets of Uchiha were burned and sacrificed to the Gods Uzumaki Naruto and Jiraiya-sama.​

LOL Omg my day has been made sir, thank you
 

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Well like you said that is your opinion, and in my opinion it's not me who's overrating Naruto but everyone else who seems to overrate the Uchiha brothers. Kishi has implied time and time again that Naruto was much stronger than either of the two at the time, and Itachi had no chance of ever beating Pain, ever.

Now
Naruto has Kurama's chakra, with near infinite chakra and the ability to spam thousands of clones countless times. And he has perfect Sage Mode unlike the Pain fight. Kurama gave Naruto a very small fraction of his chakra and one of his clones created 1000 Chou Odama Rasengan in an instant despite being horridly exhausted, and that was base Naruto.

Naruto also has a counter for genjutsu, re-read the fight in which Shoten Itachi fought Kakashi, Sakura, Naruto and Chiyo. Kakashi fooled Itachi with a bunshin feint and proved that genjutsu doesn['t work on clones. After repeated encounter and in a serious NarutoBase Battle situation Naruto will not be affected by genjutsu, they can't hurt him, and no one has given any convincing counter to any of Naruto's haxed techniques which give him the win in the first place.

Maybe the SM Naruto from the Pain fight would lose but this is far from that. Current Base Naruto is a fight for the Pain version of SM Naruto.

Oh yeah and not to edit too late but in response to your last sentence, Naruto's cool and all but he's by far my favorite character and he's not a character I'd wank on VS threads. If he gets beaten I'd gladly admit it, but as of yet he's really, really, really, really powerful.
He get's beaten by many in sage mode as well.

Not only people are even ignoring that I have given naruto two chakra recharges in the form of sage mode, tbh the thread I made was kinda unfair.

It didn't even give sasuke and itachi recharges, I mean how unfair is that?
 
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