[Discussion] Susano'o hashirama madara fight

[chopstickchakra]

I keep hearing that Madara had his perfect Susano'o when he fought Hashirama but i can't remember him saying that or seeing a flashback of the fight that showed a perfect Susano'o fighting Hashirama. Also there has not been a scene in the manga showing anyone with a perfect Susano'o without having Rinnegan so people who think Madara can make perfect Susano'o without Rinnegan can you please show me some evidence of this as well.

If anyone remembers seeing it could you post a link.

 

[OhReary]

We know like 20% of what went down in that fight.

 

[El Batman]

Agreed. Rinnegan Madara vs Hashirama should definitely be answered by the manga. And the way i see it, the only way to do that is for Madara to do a flashback causing a Madara/Hashirama mini arc. Which i think most people will appreciate.
However, i still think Hashirama>Madara

 

[chopstickchakra]

Agreed. Rinnegan Madara vs Hashirama should definitely be answered by the manga. And the way i see it, the only way to do that is for Madara to so a flashback causing a Madara/Hashirama mini arc. Which i think most people will appreciate.
However, i still think Hashirama>Madara

I agree and obviously Hashi over Madar if for no other reason than the Manga says so. I'm pretty sure first fight Madara got Rinnegan 2nd fight he used rinnegan.

 

[Killer B]

I was literally about to make this thread.....I totally agree with you

In the Kage vs. Madara thread a ton of people say he was able to go Perfect Susanoo with EMS...and they have no proof

I mean Sasuke does not have a Susanoo that looks like that and he has EMS......

 

[Killer B]

I agree and obviously Hashi over Madar if for no other reason than the Manga says so. I'm pretty sure first fight Madara got Rinnegan 2nd fight he used rinnegan.

Hashi and Madara never fought again after their Valley of the End fight.....Madara survived and unlocked Rinnegan(either from Senju DNA or some other way.....its unclear...)

EMS Madara fought Hashi not Rinnegan Madara.....because remember everyone thought Hashi killed him but apparently not because Madara stayed alive and unlocked rinnegan

 

[Anduril]

Here is the evidence.

he says the Full power of Uchiha madara.

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And here onoki asks why he did not use it against him.. and madara replies he does not take kids seriously, so naturally this implies that he had the perfect susano'o then.

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I think this is the power of the EMS the perfect susano'o

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

We know like 20% of what went down in that fight.

20% ? all we know is they had a fight and madara lost with kurama and hashirama was baws

 

[Madarauchiwa]

i think he did because he knew full well what would happen when he said "the uchiha will respond with its full power" I'm pretty sure he knew he was going to use his perfect susanoo and he wasn't just hoping for something lol

 

[lol99]

i think he did because he knew full well what would happen when he said "the uchiha will respond with its full power" I'm pretty sure he knew he was going to use his perfect susanoo and he wasn't just hoping for something lol

yup very good point U_U

 

[OhReary]

20% ? all we know is they had a fight and madara lost with kurama and hashirama was baws

Alright .05 %

 

[Trendy]

susanno is a sharigan tech so why would he need renn to use it?
now if he had it when he fought hash is a tottally different story
we will need a flash back to prove that right or wrong
and there hasnt been any flash backs showing any of madaras techs fighting hash
there keeping it secret for now so your whole arguement is kinda pointless

 

[JKakano]

I believe Madara couldn't do perfect susanoo when he fought with 1st hokage.. its was Rinnegan made him able perfect sasunoo.. see he use the Rinnegan when perfect sasunoo appear with 1st hokage's DNA help.

think sharingan's charka with rinnegan and 1st's DNA charka merge together thats why kabuto said beyond ur prime

if madara's EMS made perfect susanoo mean sasuke can do it if he knew how.. what u think?

 

[GreenV]

Kishi really really need to put mini flashback Hashi vs Madara. Unless it's pure plot no jutsu. All we've seen about what Hashirama can do is throwing big trees, make a forest, and heal without hand seal. Ah and control bijuu.

 

[Go0Go0]

lol like tsunade cna tank it still.. just byakogan and its tanked
full susanoo lmao like wth madara

 

[juankimari]

I am pretty sure he did use Perfect Susanoo against Hashi. Don't you find it strange that Onoki asked Madara ''why did you go easy on me?'' during his flashback right after seeing Perfect Susanoo?Onoki seemed convinced Madara had it back then, further evidence is the fact that Madara answered by saying ''what kind of adult would fight seriously with a child'' (as if he was also stating that P.S was not even required to beat Onoki and Mu).

Also Tsunade further hints us by asking herself if Hashirama really did beat P.S.
And finally Susanoo is a MS technique, it is only logical that the more you practice the better control and knowledge you get over it.

I think Rinnegan just boosts it's attack power or since we haven't seen a whole lot of it, maybe it will show especial techniques we have not seen yet as Madara probably won't vanish along the other Edos.(It would be lame if he just disappeared like that).

 

[Bloody Temari]

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I thought it is quite obvious that Hashirama did fight Perfect Susanoo

 

[Trendy]

I believe Madara couldn't do perfect susanoo when he fought with 1st hokage.. its was Rinnegan made him able perfect sasunoo.. see he use the Rinnegan when perfect sasunoo appear with 1st hokage's DNA help.

wow 3 different post by you
and
there all wrong,:flaw::flaw: hats off!

 

[Trendy]

Kishi really really need to put mini flashback Hashi vs Madara. Unless it's pure plot no jutsu. All we've seen about what Hashirama can do is throwing big trees, make a forest, and heal without hand seal. Ah and control bijuu.

YEAH like thats not op enough right there ^^
and yamuto did alot of cool shyt with wood style
and he is only made up of a few cells doesnt even
have the full power and even said he is just a fail experament

 

[Sikk]

Here is the evidence.

he says the Full power of Uchiha madara.

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And here onoki asks why he did not use it against him.. and madara replies he does not take kids seriously, so naturally this implies that he had the perfect susano'o then.

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I think this is the power of the EMS the perfect susano'o

^^^ This ended the whole thread.