jiraiya is the weakest sannins

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Orochimaru is the strongest sannin, thats an indisputable fact.

All 5 Kage stood their ground against 5 EMS users. All 5 Kage are above Sannin tier. She is the best support ninja in the manga, that's for sure but she is also the strongest ninja. One hit and your dead. Both Orochimaru and Tsunade can use their strongest jutsu right off the bat but Jiraiya requires prep. Without SM, J-man is not on Sannin level. It's extremely difficult to fight and prep at the same time, against Tsunade and Orochimaru, J-man is not going to have time to prep.

Jiraiya cannot do better than Tsunade against 5 Madara. He won't get the time to prep for SM.

Tsunade has bijuu level chakra, she is the most durable character in the manga and she can heal her injuries instantly. Jiraiya has nothing in his arsenal to defeat Tsunade.



I'm not to sure about anyone else but I think based on recent showing she is on Jiraiya level or above but lower than Orochimaru.

what do yah guys think?

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Ok orochimaru is the strongest
Jariya in middle
Tsunade is last


But jariya can't beat orochimaru 's hydra mode
And if fight to the death won't receive prep time for SM witch would still be useless against hydra... Fight to death oro wins base and hydra oro is faster I believe jariya is phyically stronger (not by much thou) but phyical attacks are rendered useless against oro he got his body ripped in half by 4tailed naruto and just reattached it and Thts when oro is sick
And he has sword of kansanji also tht can cut through anything
Jariya cannot beat orochimaru at all
Orochimaru base >>jariya
Jariya sage mode >=orochimaru base (his duribilty is out of control I still Dnt see jariya winning even with sage mode)
Orochimaru hydra>>>>>>>>>>>>jariya base and sage mode

Tsunade phyically is stronger then jariya and her healing abilities is insane there about the same speed also from these past chapters she cannot die in battle when seal is released also taking this in consider she man handled susannos she can do it to jariya

Tsunade base >=jariya base
Jariya sage mode >>tsunade base
Tsunde unsealed >>jariya sage mode

Fight to death I believe jariya would lose against both tbh
His only thing is sage mode and tht is outclassed by final forms of oro and tsunade

This was a good point. Hydra mode > Tsunade (regeneration) or Jiraiya (sage mode)

But, In my oppinion, it goes like this.

1. Orochimaru (hydra)
2. Jiraiya (sage mode)
3. Tsunade (regeneration)
4. Jiraiya (base)
5. Orochimaru (base)
6. Tsunade (base)
7. Orochimaru (white snake mode)
 
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So why was Jiraiya chosen to be the 5th Hokage? He declined it and gave it up to Tsuande.

He declined it.. because he realized that Tsunade can do a better job than him

He declined it.. because he knows that Tsunade is Stronger than him...

He declined it.. because he knows that Tsunade, with her skills, are more helpful in the village than him..
 

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He declined it.. because he realized that Tsunade can do a better job than him

He declined it.. because he knows that Tsunade is Stronger than him...

He declined it.. because he knows that Tsunade, with her skills, are more helpful in the village than him..

J-Man is one of my fav char but I agree on this. Also J-Man is probably weaker bcoz he spent most of his time "researching & making novels" instead of improving his skills or innovating as a Ninja.
 

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if itachi wants to kill sasuke, he would've won.
if kisame knew morning tiger is not chakra based he would've won
if pain wants naruto dead and didn't kill hinata he would've won
if naruto didn't master the rasenshuriken kakuzu would've won
if manda wasn't at sasuke's arsenal, deidara would've won
if sasori didn't change his feelings and decided to dodge chiyo's last attack, he would've won

should I go on budd?
I like how I randomly click this thread and fin 1 post I want to respond to instantly, despite not checking any other posts.

Yeah. all those are nice and dandy, most of them are completely false but you're just proving Jiraiya's strengths?

Itachi vs Sasuke: Yeah, Itachi could have won
Kisame vs Gai: Kisame could have won sure
Pain: Pain was stomped by SM Naruto, he never won in the first place lol.]
Sasori: Yep, could have won agreed. Well not necessarily won, but not be killed in that spot. If you're using that shitty logic you used for the next 2, then I'd have went with "If Sakura and Chiyo didn't have poison". But that'd be correct too^^

Now the main ones lol:
Kakuzu: Wtf? Wut logic is this?
Deidara: Again, wut logic is this?
Unlike these 2, "Hurr if sasuke didn't have manda and naruto didn't have FRS" which is true, the fact that you're comparing it to "if Jiraiya hadn't been jumped he would have won" is supremely ridiculous.

If thye didn't have those attacks then the opposition would have won(although Deidara would have died), so what? What significance does that hold? That's completely unrelated to the Jiraiya vs Pain fight. Pain sneaked up on Jiraiya because he had no idea of what was coming, in a fight against all 6 that is completely impossible to do. It would only ever happen in that scenario.

With that said, yeah if you took away all of the pain paths abilities Jiraiya would have won. If Naruto couldn't use SM and any rasengan variant Pain would have won. If Itachi hadn't been an akatsuki member and have sharingan and MS and better reflexes than Part 1 Chunin Exams Sasuke then Sasuke would have won. If Shikamaru didn't have 3 days to prep something and the help of team 10 and Kakashi then Hidan would have won(this one is legit rofl). If Hashirama couldn't use Mokuton Madara would have won. If Hiruzen was in his prime, he would have won. Etc etc etc etc
 

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Orochimaru is the strongest sannin, thats an indisputable fact.

All 5 Kage stood their ground against 5 EMS users. All 5 Kage are above Sannin tier. She is the best support ninja in the manga, that's for sure but she is also the strongest ninja. One hit and your dead. Both Orochimaru and Tsunade can use their strongest jutsu right off the bat but Jiraiya requires prep. Without SM, J-man is not on Sannin level. It's extremely difficult to fight and prep at the same time, against Tsunade and Orochimaru, J-man is not going to have time to prep.

Jiraiya cannot do better than Tsunade against 5 Madara. He won't get the time to prep for SM.

Tsunade has bijuu level chakra, she is the most durable character in the manga and she can heal her injuries instantly. Jiraiya has nothing in his arsenal to defeat Tsunade.



I'm not to sure about anyone else but I think based on recent showing she is on Jiraiya level or above but lower than Orochimaru.

what do yah guys think?

you were high as fuk when you made this thread right?! LMFAO!!
 

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Jiraiya is the strongest sannin because he taught Naruto how too be a shinobi and Jiraiya defeated the nine tails faster then lets say orochimaru
 

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Jiraiya was the master of the greatest ninja(Minato, Nagato,and Naruto), whereas the other two's disciples were weak. There's NO WAY Jiraiya is the weakest.
 
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Everyone likes to go by the data books then jiraiya is the strongest lol.

Jiraiya



Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
Third 5 4.5 3 4.5 4.5 4.5 5 4.5 35.5

Orochimaru



Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
Third 5 3.5 5 5 3.5 4.5 3.5 5 35

Tsunade



Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
Third 5 5 3.5 5 5 3.5 4 4 35


Yes, because adding up the totals is the best way to assess their skills...Moron

Jiraiya is the strongest of them.He can summon Gamabunta to get time to enter SM.Don't forget Orochimaru's jutsus(shedding and all the creepy stuff :D ) take alot of chakra and he doesn't have an endless amount.On the other hand with Ma and Pa on his shoulders Jiraiya gets tons of chakra.As for Tsunade...he will just cut his hand and down she goes...

Ma and Pa being on Jiraiya shoulders isn't going to stop him from running out of chakra.Orochimaru on the other had can just use Edo Tensei and summon Shinobi to fight Jiraiya.As for the Tsunade,I will assume that was just a really unfunny joke because if not, you are truly a moron.
 
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Jiraiya was the master of the greatest ninja(Minato, Nagato,and Naruto), whereas the other two's disciples were weak. There's NO WAY Jiraiya is the weakest.

What does a student strength have to do with anything?Your post is stupid.Nagato had the rinnegan when Jiraiya became his teacher, so any jonin could have been his master and Nagato would have still turn out as strong as he was.Jiraiya was Minato master, but Minato was already intelligent and he develop all his jutsu on his own.Minato develop the Rasengan and taught it to his master.And the Flying Thunder God technique Minato develop from learning sealing techs from Kushina.Again, just like Nagato, any Jonin could have been Minato's master and he would have still been as strong as he was.As for Naruto, beside the Rasengan and the Big Ball rasengan, what did Jiraiya teach him.Naruto didn't even have any element ninjutsu when he came back to the villages.Kakashi had to show him what his element was and then work with Naruto until he got Rasnshuriken right.The Toad Sages taught Naruto Sage mode, not Jiraiya.And killer Bee taught naruto how to control his Biju.So all in all, Jiraiya is the person least responsible for Naruto current power.Kakashi, Killer Bee, and The Toad Sage Ma and Pa did all the real develop.


Conclusion:Your post is stupid.You can't judge a Sannin strength by the Strength of his students.Especially since Jiraiya just louck out in the student he was able to teach.Furthermore, out of all the Student on each Sannin, I think the one with Edo Tensei is the most inpressive.
 

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J-man the weakest sannin!!!...u gat to be jerking off...have u forgotten that J-man fought against 6 path of pain without any knowledge of their powers and secrets and still was able to stood his ground in the enemy's territory and found the secrets to their powers?. Anybody in his shoes even Itachi would get owned as well.
 

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i think Tsunade is the weakest and i actually think that J-man has a good chance to win against Oro cuz he took down Pain and he got the rasengan and toad summoning and S-mode
 

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if jman had time against pain he has prep time against anyone really his summons will by him some time
 
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