Perfect Susanoo needs Rinnegan

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Hahaha kid seriously im defending my point against kids who just say NO they provide no proof what so ever to their opinions like my first comment there is a difference between debating and being dumb. an intelligent person like i am being responds to what other say and refutes. However how am are you refuting when i provide proof in some forms and i have been reading everyones comments that just say it isnt...

Son, I did not imply you weren't reading the comments I merely implied you were incapable of understanding them as shown by miss interpreting my words and later by saying Ryuu.. implied Naruto was going to get Rinnegan which he didn't. Then again you claimed to have posted proof, if you were capable of reading and understanding the comments posted in answer to your "proof" you'd have realize that in fact you proved nothing and that the hints we have from the manga point in the opposite direction meaning that we are likely to see Sasuke pull a perfect Susano with is EMS.
 

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oo really thanks i didnt know cause i honestly dont read manga i thought sasuke had ems since he was a kid.... thanks captain obvious please stop stating the obvious dumb no proof rebuttles to my theory

lol u mad bro, go cry a river :D

u defenetly didint understand what i was trying to say.
 

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everything you just said right now is just baseless assumption and speculation about kishi being lazy or plot no jutsu contributing.

honestly i think its just a ems tech, why would a MS tech need a different doujutsu to unlock sussano's full potential it makes no sense.

and why would one progress from ems to rinnegan? no need for it? he's got this all powerful form of susanoo and yet he awakens a rinnegan? but it's okay i understand not enough has been released to prove me right or wrong this is just a theory so inorder to prove theorys wrong you need another theory with proof... ive seen the 2 holes in my theory so far but i have far more proof presented
 

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no but one awakens rinnegan after the progress past ems so try it again

You know that EMS and Rinnegan are two different things? The EMS is the final stage of the MS, Susanoo is a part of the MS. The Rinnegan is an other DouJutsu and grant you other abilities, or why Nagato couldn't use the Susanoo too? It is about you to back up your claim with proofs, but you have proved nothing.
 

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and why would one progress from ems to rinnegan? no need for it? he's got this all powerful form of susanoo and yet he awakens a rinnegan? but it's okay i understand not enough has been released to prove me right or wrong this is just a theory so inorder to prove theorys wrong you need another theory with proof... ive seen the 2 holes in my theory so far but i have far more proof presented

thats a idiotic question... why would one progress from ems to rinnegan? obviously because its the next stage after ems and they get new powers.

:sy:

everyone has proved you wrong, until kishi saids perfect sussano needs rinnegan it doesnt. so get over it.

SUSSANO HAS BEEN A MANGEKYO SHARIGAN TECHNIQUE SINCE THE DAY WE HAVE SEEN IT, WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE THAT IT NEEDS A WHOLE DIFFERENT DOUTJUSU TO UNLOCK ITS FULL POTENTIAL.
 

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You know that EMS and Rinnegan are two different things? The EMS is the final stage of the MS, Susanoo is a part of the MS. The Rinnegan is an other DouJutsu and grant you other abilities, or why Nagato couldn't use the Susanoo too? It is about you to back up your claim with proofs, but you have proved nothing.

actually you know ems and ms are samething with minor difference.... EMS doesnt cause one to go blind while ms does. Why does one awaken rinnegan after the progress past ems/sharingan? Nagato wasnt an uchiha and didnt ever have a sharingan or ms so how would he be able to use and E/MS tech and before you accuse me of not providing proof read the whole thread than post

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The EMS is the final form of the Sharingan, it is the same DouJutsu.
Mangekyou Sharingan, Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. The word "Eternal" is standing for the eternal light, the Mangekyou gets. Susanoo is a part of the Mangekyou Sharingan, that is a fact, it is the true power of Uchiha Madara, the power Uchiha Madara was known for in his prime. The Rinnegan is a whole different story, he has awaken it shortly before his death, so long time after he gained true power, due to the EMS, according to Itachi.

What is your point?
The Susanoo is a technique of the Mangekyou Sharingan - Fact. The EMS is just a stronger form by giving you eternal light.

Nagato, who uses the Rinnegan, doesn't possess Susanoo. It is a different DouJutsu, The Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan is the higher form of the Sharingan and MS, while the Rinnegan is a seperate DouJutsu, which can be awake by reaching the Sharingans limits. Means, you reach the limit of one DouJutsu (Sharingan) and obtain a new DouJutsu. Susanoo is not a part of the Rinnegan.

Can you keep this in your mind? All facts are against you bro.
 

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I'm gonna sit on the fence here but why is there such a gap between Sasuke and Madara's Susanoos. I mean they both have EMS so why does Sasuke have one so similar to his old one but Madara has a fifty foot samurai :shrug: Any ideas ?

oh well its only Saksuke
 

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The EMS is the final form of the Sharingan, it is the same DouJutsu.
Mangekyou Sharingan, Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. The word "Eternal" is standing for the eternal light, the Mangekyou gets. Susanoo is a part of the Mangekyou Sharingan, that is a fact, it is the true power of Uchiha Madara, the power Uchiha Madara was known for in his prime. The Rinnegan is a whole different story, he has awaken it shortly before his death, so long time after he gained true power, due to the EMS, according to Itachi.

What is your point?
The Susanoo is a technique of the Mangekyou Sharingan - Fact. The EMS is just a stronger form by giving you eternal light.

Nagato, who uses the Rinnegan, doesn't possess Susanoo. It is a different DouJutsu, The Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan is the higher form of the Sharingan and MS, while the Rinnegan is a seperate DouJutsu, which can be awake by reaching the Sharingans limits. Means, you reach the limit of one DouJutsu (Sharingan) and obtain a new DouJutsu. Susanoo is not a part of the Rinnegan.

Can you keep this in your mind? All facts are against you bro.

hmmmm what facts the ones you provided that dont show any seperation of rinnegan and ems other than they have different moves to than from what we've been shown before? susanoo is a tech of ms i understand that that isnt my debate my debate is wheter one needs the rinnegan after that to complete the PS okay? why would it matter is madara awakened the rinnegan after he perfected and progressed pass the ems? he could spam the 3 moves he got from awakening the ems like he was in the beginning it wouldnt matter? why is rinnegan seperate from ems when one achieves the rinnegan after surpassing/perfecting/mastering the sharingan? why did kishi put that there seriously tell me
 

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I'm gonna sit on the fence here but why is there such a gap between Sasuke and Madara's Susanoos. I mean they both have EMS so why does Sasuke have one so similar to his old one but Madara has a fifty foot samurai :shrug: Any ideas ?

oh well its only Saksuke

1. its MADARA UCIHA

2. madara has had he's ems longer most likely after years his sussano developed even further.
 

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thats a idiotic question... why would one progress from ems to rinnegan? obviously because its the next stage after ems and they get new powers.

:sy:

everyone has proved you wrong, until kishi saids perfect sussano needs rinnegan it doesnt. so get over it.

SUSSANO HAS BEEN A MANGEKYO SHARIGAN TECHNIQUE SINCE THE DAY WE HAVE SEEN IT, WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE THAT IT NEEDS A WHOLE DIFFERENT DOUTJUSU TO UNLOCK ITS FULL POTENTIAL.

umm because it adds a whole extra element of power to it when its a sharingan plus a ****ing rinnegan? everyone proves me wrong thats why people agree and have +repped me for this thread...... seriously until kishi states PS needs it why is he using EMS techs with his rinnegan? and yet why does his clone cast a genjutsu with the ems when the normal madara has rinnegan active why can the rinnegan just cast the jutsu? explain now mister master of narutoverse
 

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o really show it to me please where it says he has PS when fighting the first cause all we've been shown was ems and kyubbi thats is so ****ing prove it

just like the other guy said tsunade said did my grandfather really beat this then he says i told u ur grand father is the only one that can stop me that says it all cuz he would have said i did not use such power fighting hashirama if wat ur saying is right an he did not use this fighting the 1st then i kno the first wiped the floor wit him with out a problem....prove to me rennigan is needed for it prove to me he did not use it in the fight wit the first o thats right u cant lol u r lost i can tell susanoo is a sharingan tec rennigan has nonthing to do wit it.
 
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umm because it adds a whole extra element of power to it when its a sharingan plus a ****ing rinnegan? everyone proves me wrong thats why people agree and have +repped me for this thread...... seriously until kishi states PS needs it why is he using EMS techs with his rinnegan? and yet why does his clone cast a genjutsu with the ems when the normal madara has rinnegan active why can the rinnegan just cast the jutsu? explain now mister master of narutoverse

he was shown using rinnegan while having sussano on, all your points are invalid.

nothing suggest rinnegan is needed for PS until kishi saids so it doesnt. end of story.

normal madara has rinnegan active why can the rinnegan just cast the jutsu?

rinnegan has never been shown to cast genjutsu like the sharigan, if madara wants to use genjutsu he will to switch to sharigan.
 

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he was shown using rinnegan while having sussano on, all your points are invalid.

nothing suggest rinnegan is needed for PS until kishi saids so it doesnt. end of story.

normal madara has rinnegan active why can the rinnegan just cast the jutsu?

rinnegan has never been shown to cast genjutsu like the sharigan, if madara wants to use genjutsu he will to switch to sharigan.

thanks for help proving my point.... why is he using EMS tech with rinnegan active rinnegans cant use susanoo......
 

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just like the other guy said tsunade said did my grandfather really beat this then he says i told u ur grand father is the only one that can stop me that says it all cuz he would have said i did not use such power fighting hashirama if wat ur saying is right an he did not use this fighting the 1st then i kno the first wiped the floor wit him with out a problem....prove to me rennigan is needed for it prove to me he did not use it in the fight wit the first o thats right u cant lol u r lost i can tell susanoo is a sharingan tec rennigan has nonthing to do wit it.

ive literally shown the whole tsunade thing atleast like ****ing 4 times please read more comments from earlier(SHES SPEAKING RHETORICALLY NOTE HE DOESNT EVEN ANSWER HER!) and please what cause we know so much about the 1sts fight with madara like the one picture of him on top of the kyuubi with ems active..... totally using PS right? no....? a
 

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tsunade: did my grandfather really fight against this (giant susanoo)?
madara: i already told u only hashi can defeat me

aka madara said hashi fought against the giant susanoo, aka rinnegan is not required since he had no rinnegan when he was fighting hashi

rinnegan is just a overall power up for madara

ohboy madara fanboy lulz
 
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