Youre right about that but still if Hashi can control the Kyuubi then Hashi with Kyuubi > Hiruzen
Toying Hiruzen was debunked a long time ago, Hiruzen was letting his guard down and it was a 3 vs 1 fight.
Hiruzen was also called the strongest and the strongest Kage.
Hiruzen was still alive after sealing Hashirama and Tobirama.
Hiruzen was alive after sealing the previous hokages because he hasnt finished the seal yet. Minato was alive too after sealing half of the kyuubi's chakra into himself.
kishi never said hirzun>>>> hashirama
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Very true and well said.kishi never said hirzun>>>> hashirama
only iruka said hirzun is greatest hokage ever
few points
1.itachi said himself jiraiya vs itachi+kishame= draw so do u believe it
2.tobi said sasuke surpassed itachi , do u think sasuke>itachi
3.kisame said gai is an insect without brain but gai defeated kisame
4.kakashi said to naurto that he would surpass greatest shinobi ever . i.e minato so do u think naruto>minato>all hokages????
5.jabuja said haku >> naruto+sauske but haku died
6.pain said he is god and cant be defeated but he was defeated by naruto lolz
7.neji said he was the best and naruto worst during chunin exam but naruto beat the hell outta neji.
i just want to say it doesn't matter who says what. every one has different openion. even ramen guy could say his father was the strongest man ever to roam on planet but do u belive kishi said that ramen guys father was strongest man alive. dont be a reatrd guys . watch the fact. hashi has definately strongest chakra,most powerful jutsu. only one person in history to have mokuton , the strongest jutsu,his rejeneration jutsu is strongest and fastest .even he has most perfect multi clone jutsu and whole lotta aresenal.
even tusunade dont know the limit and ablities of hashi then how on earth can that noob iruka sensei knows the vast prowess of hashirama.
i bet hiruzen cant even put a scratch on to hashi and even if hiruzen puts a fatal blow to hashi then still hashi can rejerated and heal at an instant.
look here when tusnade can heal the wound form the susanoo stab then image hashi dont even need any seals and also hashi can heal faster than tusnade so how on earth can hiruzen ever manage to wound hashi.You must be registered for see images
there are a lot of points but its enought to prove hashi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. h
lolz hiruzen was fighting with ist and 2nd hokage's mindless dummies so winning angainst them do u call a victory. fuk u noob
So you can't call Itachi, Bee and Naruto beating a mindless Nagato a victory?
It's not a waste because Konoha was saved, it was Hiruzen's victory and Orochimaru's lost.
Hiruzen has no special ability like Yamato to stop the Kyuubi. Hiruzen was like raw power alone. Does that mean, Yamato is stronger than Hiruzen? LOL.hashirama was already weak, from many years of battles. and its not mentioned his cause of death and in hashi era u wont find fooder ninjas like zabuja, haku,few rogue ninjas etc etc . it was the era of legendary ninjas like madara,izuna, kin kaku , gin kaku,mizukage,ist raikage, etc etc .just imagine kin kaku gin kaku them selves tried to captured kyubi but got swallowed by 9tail. yet they managed to survive on meat of 9 tail fox.holy crap. hiruzen was such a ***** when tobi+9tail attacked konoha. and we can see he is pleading minato to stop 9 tail while hiruzen was shitting crap on his pants.
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Well Tschuchikage is older than 70 and still fights Madara quite well.
