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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

I've said this already, but EVERY SINGLE quote here is written as an opinion. None directly say "he was the best". Instead the words used are "is called" or "described" or "respected as" or "was said to be". People exaggerate their heros. Just because Tiger Woods is called the best golfer of all time, does that make him the best? No. Their are many people who are arguably better than him. All that you are really saying is that people thought he was the best. Well let me tell you that that doesn't mean he was.
Opinions that were written by the guy who created Naruto. Maybe Hashirama fanboys know more about the characters than Kishi. :sy:
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

:cool:Oro>Weak Hiruzen>Hashirama then that means Oro>Hashi. wtf!?
Hashi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hiruzen

(By the way the Databook is total crap)
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

:cool:Oro>Weak Hiruzen>Hashirama then that means Oro>Hashi. wtf!?
Hashi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hiruzen

(By the way the Databook is total crap)
Can anyone blame me for not talking 90% of Hashirama arguments seriously?
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Opinions that were written by the guy who created Naruto. Maybe Hashirama fanboys know more about the characters than Kishi. :sy:
Incorrect, you are. Many other opinions such as these have been written in the manga that contradict each other. Kabuto said that it is common knowledge that no ninja has ever been able to reach Hashirama's level. That sounds like an opinion to me...and it contradicts the opinions said by other ninja who say that Hiruzen was the strongest. Just because Kishi wrote it doesn't mean he believes it then. In the data books, when it says Hiruzen "is called" the strongest kage, it means he "is called" that by other ninja, not Kishi himself. Maybe you can understand that before bashing other people.
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

The only possible reason Tsunade is shocked is because of the amount of Hiruzen/Hashirama threads that have been made
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Facts not assumptions. Last time I saw in the manga the 3rd Hokage defeated both the 1st and 2nd Hokage under Edo Tensei by Oro so he is stronger.
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

OK guys you win Hiruzen>Hashi>Madara because he was called god of shinobi wasn't he and that means all shinobi. He is not even a senju or and uchiha but it doesn't matter he is right under the so6p's because fodders said so. Fodders who call the so6p him self a myth. And hashi's powers a myth. You win guys.
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

tsunade just never saw the 1st at full power, so seeing madara at full power made her realized just how strong her grandfather was
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

It's over we have one Hashi believers we have one

No one has made an argument in this thread because they can't we have one. Stop the threads.
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

This really start getting ridiculous, how many of this threads are you going to create? No, this isn't even funny any more. It is a matter of opinion whether Hiruzen or Hashirama is stronger. We are not going by abc logic. Only because Hashirama beat Madara, he can't beat Hiruzen too, though Hashirama is in my opinion the stronger one.
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

This really start getting ridiculous, how many of this threads are you going to create? No, this isn't even funny any more. It is a matter of opinion whether Hiruzen or Hashirama is stronger. We are not going by abc logic. Only because Hashirama beat Madara, he can't beat Hiruzen too, though Hashirama is in my opinion the stronger one.
Don't worry it's over I have ended it my "Hey hiruzen fanboys" made everyone realise. It's over
 

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Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Hashi fought madara and not edo madara however even with the rinnegan, the 1st cells, and perfect susano edo madara has never came out and said that he could beat hashi that says something. He is saying 5 people are nowhere near a challenge one man is. Until hiruzen shows me something more impressive myself and a lot of other people will believe hashi>hiruzen. Btw reaper death seal does not equal a win it is the equivelent of deidara blowing himself up and doesn't prove that you are stronger.
 

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Read First : Hiruzen is not stonger than 1st & 2nd hokage

Just remember that hiruzen used wreaper death seal on them. That means he is not stornger than them because he can't fight with 1st and 2nd to death. Just holding them to perform seal does'nt means he is strong. He can't defeat 1st hokage in any means with out sealing him.
So stop saying Hiruzen>Hashirama.
Thank you.
 
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