Still not sure how hashirama crept into this thread, but hiruzen > hashirama majority of the times U_U and i dont believe people still grasp why he is the strongest
I made a thread discussing this very thing because people were determining a dead and gone ninja's power based solely off their edos and it was driving me insane if anybody is interested:
Still not sure how hashirama crept into this thread, but hiruzen > hashirama majority of the times U_U and i dont believe people still grasp why he is the strongest
because he was trained by hashi and nidai themselves?
because he had more exp?
because he knew more techs and was called professor and god of the shinobi?
srsly blaze, oonoki is like 2 times more experienced than madara and hashi
oonoki may also is "professor of hidden rock" and "god of the shinobi" in his followers` eyes but dafuq will he do against either mada or hashi?
same dafuq as he is doing now, but without the help of other 4 kages
and hiruzen would do the same (if not even less) in said condition...
What insult is this. All my arguments for hiruzen ive never once, yes never once used hype to justify why i believe he would hashirama majority of the time. Note that ive already said hiruzen would lose to madara though.
I believe that people dont understand why hiruzen is the strongest hokage and im thinking about making a thread. Basically this is why hiruzen is the strongest hokage. He was trained by both the 1st and second hokage who were leaders of the senju and that clan was said to be a clan with a 1000 skill (or some shit like that). If you notice hashirama had loads of scroll, scrolls that if you are elected hokage you are entitled to and i believe one of those scrolls is what naruto stole at the beginning of the series.
Now Hiruzen being a part of the sarutobi clan who were said to have natural talent in learning ninjutsu fast, its reasonable to say due to his old age, plus this natural ability he has mastered all the scrolls/ninjutsu's that existed in konoha. He has done something that not even his 2 former masters did in their life time. Further more if you look at the db he is the only person, yes only person to get a 5/5 for all 3 forms of ninja art and this speaks volumes. No wonder he was called the professor.
Now because he was the student of the 2 hokages he knows their techniques very well, so much so that if he was to fight them he would be able to counter and we saw this. The weakness of the Kokuangyo no Jutsu is that apart from the eye sight being taken away from you, all your othe senses are there and because hiruzen being the student of the 1st knew of this technique and its weakness he used his nose (sense of smell) to track hashirama;
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Secondly Enma is a good counter for mokuton and we have seen this. Hashirama used the same technique as edo madara when he first used the mokuton. The technique was Mokuton Hijutsu: Jukai Kotan. Enma not only made mokuton look like a twig it also protect hiruzen;
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Tobirama being a master of suiton jutsu. Hiruzen knew this and was able to counter his Suiton suiryudan, with doton doryuuheki;
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The reason why Hiruzen is the strongest hokage is NOT solely based on raw power but knowledge on his counterparts to defeat them in a fight. Its his knowledge on his teachers abilities that will allow him to defeat them in a fight thats why he is strongest amongst them. Note the word amongst them because i believe people dont understand this.
If we were to give hashirama and hiruzen 10 top shinobi's to fight in a 1 vs 1 situation, i believe hashirama would win majority of his fights and i cannot say the same for hiruzen. So whilst hiruzen is the strongest hokage due to his knowledge on his former teachers, if we were to take this a step further and place them both outside the criteria of hokage hashirama is stronger, but if were to revert this and place them in the criteria of hokage hiruzen is stronger.
Hashirama is stronger but for reasons stated above hiruzen would most likely beat him majority of the times. Its not raw power that makes hiruzen stronger than hashirama
As i said knowledge is power. If both had no knowledge on each others abilities then ill side by hahsirama beating hiruzen. But because hiruzen knows of his abilities well, he would beat hashirama majority of the times. Now when i say knowledge is power dont take it too literally and say if shikamaru had a year of prep time he could beat nagato because that is not what i mean.
What i mean by knowledge is power is that if two shinobi's roughly equal in power (although hasirama is stronger in terms of raw power) were to face off, the ninja who has the extra advantage in terms of knowledge of his opponents abilities will most likely win the fight
EDIT: Getting tired of posting this over and over again when it seems people cannot think for themselves
because he was trained by hashi and nidai themselves?
because he had more exp?
because he knew more techs and was called professor and god of the shinobi?
srsly blaze, oonoki is like 2 times more experienced than madara and hashi
oonoki may also is "professor of hidden rock" and "god of the shinobi" in his followers` eyes but dafuq will he do against either mada or hashi?
same dafuq as he is doing now, but without the help of other 4 kages
and hiruzen would do the same (if not even less) in said condition...
Always a good idea to think before you type. Actually consider this a troll responce no different to the other troll who said madara no difficulty. Clearly common sense isnt so common
Always a good idea to think before you type. Actually consider this a troll responce no different to the other troll who said madara no difficulty. Clearly common sense isnt so common
Did not make one bit of sense thats why i labelled it a troll responce. When i said common sense isnt so common i was talking to the person who said no difficulty and not you
First of all i believe you should read my responce first before i answer your question because as i said i dont believe people understand why hiruzen is the strongest hokage and btw im not a pro hiruzen fan. Read why i believe hiruzen is the strongest hokage and ill answer your question. How hiruzen can get past that technique
Did not make one bit of sense thats why i labelled it a troll responce. When i said common sense isnt so common i was talking to the person who said no difficulty and not you
