Who said Hiruzen was the strongest???

[Yo pappy]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

On one side we have opinion. On the other we have manga. Now which is more reliable? Not Hashirama's side, that's for sure.

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The manga is on both of their sides. Although one statement is coming from Iruka who probably never even saw Hiruzen in his prime, and the other comes from Madara who actually fought Hashirama.

 

[3rd Hokage]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

stop praising kishi as god and making the manga the bible.

But Masashi Kishimoto IS the god of Narutoverse. He rules over it, therefore anything he says needs to be taken seriously, because it's his choices that affect the future, not random Internet people.

 

[Enton]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

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The manga is on both of their sides. Although one statement is coming from Iruka who probably never even saw Hiruzen in his prime, and the other comes from Madara who actually fought Hashirama.

People 'called him the strongest'. That is past tense; it is referring to HIS time. Was Hiruzen of HIS time?

Try again.

 

[LolaxXx]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

so how does this apply to there fight we seen hiruzen crush hashi wood with ease and beat him plus his brother

as I recall, he didnt crush his wood with ease, he was barely able to defend, and if orochimaru wasnt toying around, he would have made hashi kill him sooner. Dont comapre edo tensei to the real deal.

 

[killakader1]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

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The manga is on both of their sides. Although one statement is coming from Iruka who probably never even saw Hiruzen in his prime, and the other comes from Madara who actually fought Hashirama.

This right here says it all^ who's word is stronger iruka the fodder ninja, or madara? I'm waiting Hiru fans

 

[Enton]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

This right here says it all^ who's word is stronger iruka the fodder ninja, or madara? I'm waiting Hiru fans

It already got shat on.

 

[Unorthodox]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

But Masashi Kishimoto IS the god of Narutoverse. He rules over it, therefore anything he says needs to be taken seriously, because it's his choices that affect the future, not random Internet people.

this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

as I recall, he didnt crush his wood with ease, he was barely able to defend, and if orochimaru wasnt toying around, he would have made hashi kill him sooner. Dont comapre edo tensei to the real deal.

PLEASE FOR THE LAST TIME POST THE MANGA PAGE WHERE IT SAYS HE WAS TOYING IM BEGGING YOU

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

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If I see another Hiruzen Hashirama thread today I will kill myself...farewell everyone.

 

[killakader1]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

Hiru fanboys need to be honest with themselves right now. Do you honestly believe Hiru could take Hashi in a one on one. Not talking about that WACK ass edo, I'm talking about prime on one, based on what you've seen on Hiru you can guess where his prime was at. In his old age he barely beat to dumpy ass edos that were nothing compared to the real deal. And then it comes to irukas word or madaras. Think real hard, the answer is right in front if you.

 

[LolaxXx]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


PLEASE FOR THE LAST TIME POST THE MANGA PAGE WHERE IT SAYS HE WAS TOYING IM BEGGING YOU

are you kidding me? It was freaking obvious. Did you not see how the battle went? Orochi could have used their best techniques together to finish off hiruzen, but he purposely prolonged the fight because he wanted to make hiruzen suffer mentally and physically. If he wanted to he could have just killed hiruzen the moment he fell for their genjutsu.

 

[Yo pappy]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

People 'called him the strongest'. That is past tense; it is referring to HIS time. Was Hiruzen of HIS time?

Try again.

lol seriously? Look at the screen, Iruka was also speaking in the past tense, "was said to be the strongest of all" ring any bells? Try again. Also, look at who is stating these things. If you think Irukas opinion on who is the strongest reigns over Madaras you're just kidding yourself.

 

[Unorthodox]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

are you kidding me? It was freaking obvious. Did you not see how the battle went? Orochi could have used their best techniques together to finish off hiruzen, but he purposely prolonged the fight because he wanted to make hiruzen suffer mentally and physically. If he wanted to he could have just killed hiruzen the moment he fell for their genjutsu.

if you have no proof your point is invalid

Hiru fanboys need to be honest with themselves right now. Do you honestly believe Hiru could take Hashi in a one on one. Not talking about that WACK ass edo, I'm talking about prime on one, based on what you've seen on Hiru you can guess where his prime was at. In his old age he barely beat to dumpy ass edos that were nothing compared to the real deal. And then it comes to irukas word or madaras. Think real hard, the answer is right in front if you.

edo > normal self end of stroy hiruzen already won im done posting this troll thread

 

[Seraphiel]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

The Manga clearly states that Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage during his prime. The reason you people don't want to believe that is because if Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama, then that is very likely to make him stronger than Madara as well. Madara himself admitted that Hashirama was still able to defeat him.

You people think that his Susano'o is invincible, though Hashirama was still able to defeat it. Uchihas are not the only ones with great power and techniques. Hashirama was also a direct descendant of the SO6P; he must also have very strong techs. Just because we have never seen all of his techs, does not that he doesn't have one more powerful than Susano'o.

The same goes for Hiruzen. Just because he's not an Uchiha or never showed powerful techs, does not mean that he doesn't have something powerful do defeat Hashirama or Madara.

It baffles me on how closed-minded and stupid you people really are. For god sakes... just ****ing think and stop acting like ****ing babies!

 

[Cerox0]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

But Masashi Kishimoto IS the god of Narutoverse. He rules over it, therefore anything he says needs to be taken seriously, because it's his choices that affect the future, not random Internet people.

Yes the opinion of random internet people don't matter. However how a person reads the chapter does, and a lot of people fail to and stick to basic middle school reading which means nothing in a debate.

People 'called him the strongest'. That is past tense; it is referring to HIS time. Was Hiruzen of HIS time?

Tobirama was of both their time and I believe both Prime Hiruzen and Prime Danzo were listening to Tobirama like the good little shinobi they are., and if Hashirama was still alive would you reconsider?

PLEASE FOR THE LAST TIME POST THE MANGA PAGE WHERE IT SAYS HE WAS TOYING IM BEGGING YOU

Are you not capable of using your head and realizing he wasn't trying, you didn;t counter my post.

 

[LolaxXx]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

if you have no proof your point is invalid


edo > normal self end of stroy hiruzen already won im done posting this troll thread

if u arent old enough to understand the series and what the character's mentalities are, then you shouldnt even try to debate. Show me proof where they WERENT toying around kid. Use your logic.

 

[Enton]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

Thread has been shat on on multiple occasions. There is nothing left to discuss.

 

[killakader1]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

if you have no proof your point is invalid


edo > normal self end of stroy hiruzen already won im done posting this troll thread

Did u just say that edo Hashi oro created was stronger than prime Hashi.LMFAO AHAHAH, YOur ignorance and stubbornness is incredible

 

[killakader1]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

And prime hiruzen and prime Danzo were under the command of tobirama,

 

[killakader1]

Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama

Yes the opinion of random internet people don't matter. However how a person reads the chapter does, and a lot of people fail to and stick to basic middle school reading which means nothing in a debate.



Tobirama was of both their time and I believe both Prime Hiruzen and Prime Danzo were listening to Tobirama like the good little shinobi they are., and if Hashirama was still alive would you reconsider?




Are you not capable of using your head and realizing he wasn't trying, you didn;t counter my post.

+rep

 

[Lt Iceman]

Re: Could anyone possibly tell me how Hiruzen is supposed to be stronger than Hashi?

Ok so let me get this straight,Hashirama beat Madara at the VoE,now for someone to say Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama it means that person believes Hiruzen could beat the motherfu*king Uchia Madara

Lol at you fanboys,then tell me what about Madara then,Kishi didn't say shit in regards to him,so going by your logic then Hiruzen is stronger than him because Kishi said Hiruzen>Hashirama>Madara

Lol just *****ng lol :rofl: