Hiruzen

[Hipster Madara]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

I believe hashirama could beat hiruzen in a battle...but wtf type of proof is this?

 

[LolaxXx]

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madara stated that hashirama is the only one who is currently able to stop him

 

[markdabomb22]

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[narutownsyouall]

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Tsunade has seen hiruzens prime, was his student and knows her master's fighting since they were at war times.
The latest chapter shows that even though she knew hiruzen, she is so shocked as how hashirama could fight against madara.

This shows that hashirama > hiruzen because she would not have been shocked like this

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Have you seen Hiruzen prime? no..... Well Old Hiruzen beat Hashirama already.

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

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People say Hashirama has greater feats then Hiruzen? What are these exactly? U guys counting what someone else is doing with Mokuton isn't a feat made by the shinobi himself.

Thats like me saying Because of what Madara is doing, it's clear that Yamato can use that jutsu right? Madara is a modified edo and u have no clue how much more powerful Kabuto made him.

U guys saying Hashirama is stronger then Hiruzen are going off nothing more then hype from what Madara is doing. As far as Im concerened, the databooks and manga dwarf ur oppinions. Hiruzen was the strongest hokage and from factual feats in the manga, knows how to counter both Tobirama and Hashirama's abilities.

 

[LolaxXx]

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look at what just a small fraction of hashirama's power can do for someone, imagine how powerful the real deal was.

 

[Stark]

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No, he considered a legend, only So6P considered a myth

I read it in a scan once, during the war arc. Kabuto says it..

 

[kellzfresh]

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Have you seen Hiruzen prime? no..... Well Old Hiruzen beat Hashirama already.

Tsunade has seen hiruzens prime and was still shocked to see this level of power from madara, shocked that somebody could beat this alone.
If she has seen that much strength, she would not have been shocked like that. U_U

 

[narutownsyouall]

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Tsunade has seen hiruzens prime and was still shocked to see this level of power from madara, shocked that somebody could beat this alone.
If she has seen that much strength, she would not have been shocked like that. U_U

This is not A>B>C logic. Hashirama is better for fighting Madara because he has Mokuton. As a ninja Hiruzen was better mastering all kinds of Jutsu and he beat Hashirama already. He > Hashirama but it would not mean that he could beat Madara.

 

[LolaxXx]

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Tsunade has seen hiruzens prime and was still shocked to see this level of power from madara, shocked that somebody could beat this alone.
If she has seen that much strength, she would not have been shocked like that. U_U

she at least would have compared it to hiruzen

 

[KnowMads]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

sigh... im going to prove all you wrong, hiruzen isnt the strongest hokage's ill brb.

 

[Exaar]

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Quotes from the Databooks.

Page 117: "He is such a genius ninja that he was even called the 'Professor', and he still garners everyone's respect as the strongest Hokage in history." (「„プロフェッサー”と呼ばれたほ� ��天才忍者であり、歴代最強の影 として皆の尊敬を集め続ける。」, "'Purofessā' to yobareta hodo no tensai ninja de ari, rekidai saikyō no Hokage toshite mina no sonkei o atsume tsuzukeru")

Page 119: "'Strongest in history', 'genius', et cetera, the words used to describe the Third Hokage." (「„歴代最強”„天才”など、三代� �� �� �� ��火影を形容する言葉は賞賛に満�� �� � �て いる。」, "'Rekidai saikyō' 'tensai' nado, Sandaime Hokage o keiyōsuru kotoba wa shōsan ni michite iru.")

Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と� �� �� �� ��われ、„忍の神”と謳われたこ�� �� � �も 。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")

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[Prime Rib]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

that dosent prove anything

 

[lonewolf77766]

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Outnumbered, letting his guard down, old and past his prime Hiruzen beat Edo-Prime Hashirama.

Past Event >>> Hearsay

 

[KnowMads]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

This is not A>B>C logic. Hashirama is better for fighting Madara because he has Mokuton. As a ninja Hiruzen was better mastering all kinds of Jutsu and he beat Hashirama already. He > Hashirama but it would not mean that he could beat Madara.

so false...

as a ninja hiruzen was better?

since when does mastering alot of jutsu make you better?

i guess kakashi>tobi

he didnt beat hashirama, hashirama didnt even go all out he was toying with him you honestly believe that edo hashi had only that to show?

he fought against hiruzen like he did against madara then hiruzen would of got owned.

 

[kellzfresh]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

This is not A>B>C logic. Hashirama is better for fighting Madara because he has Mokuton. As a ninja Hiruzen was better mastering all kinds of Jutsu and he beat Hashirama already. He > Hashirama but it would not mean that he could beat Madara.

This is not any logic. She saw much power from madara than she has ever seen before, (not even from sarutobi).
EMS madara has more raw power than what she saw from hiruzen's prime.
Hiruzen was a genius, not a beast or raw power like madara and hashi.
Hiruzen was a god of shinobi (leader of ninjas), not a myth (fairy tale) like hashirama, madara, sage of six paths, zeus.
If she has seen this much power from anyone in her life (hiruzen), she wouldn't have said this out of fear

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U_U

 

[Yveltal]

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Imo shippunden series makes statements in the beginning series irrelevant

 

[Exaar]

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MADARA STATES RIGHT HERE HASHIRAMA IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DEFEAT HIM THATS MEANS HASHIRAMA CAN TAKE ON EDO MADARA AND POTENTIALLY WIN.

now to hiruzen

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right here edo madara mentions nagato that obviously means he knew nagato as a kid,hence the reason he said little boy nagato finally grew up.

that obviously means madara was still alive during hiruzen's prime,how could madara not know about hiruzen if he was still alive if he knew nagato?

HIRUZEN"S FALSE HYPE

sigh... for all the dum asses who cant read the DATABOOK AND MANGA both state hiruzen WAS SAID TO BE the strongest hokage. theirs is a difference between WAS SAID TO BE and ACTUALLY IS if hiruzen was the strongest hokage why doesnt he manga or data bluntly and directly just said he is? instead of was said to be.

WAS SAID TO BE DOESNT ACTUALLY MEAN HE IS

the senju were known for 1000 talents.

think about it, kishi hasnt even MENTIONED HIRUZEN NOT ONCE THIS WHOLE TIME if hiruzen is the strongest hokage kishimoto is a troll because he cant even shown anything that suggest hiruzen is.

kishi has been mentioning hashirama for a while now and praising him and even bringing up hiruzen once... what does that tell you?

HIRUZEN WAS JUST HYPE

not to mention DAN ALSO SAID ONLY HASHIRAMA AND TAKE ON EDO MADARA AND IM PRETTY SURE DAN WAS ALIVE DURING HIRUZEN's PRIME

THREAD/ i proved all the hashi haters wrong

Databooks wrote by Kishi
Page 117: "He is such a genius ninja that he was even called the 'Professor', and he still garners everyone's respect as the strongest Hokage in history." (「„プロフェッサー”と呼ばれたほ� �� ��天才忍者であり、歴代最強の影 として皆の尊敬を集め続ける。」, "'Purofessā' to yobareta hodo no tensai ninja de ari, rekidai saikyō no Hokage toshite mina no sonkei o atsume tsuzukeru")

Page 119: "'Strongest in history', 'genius', et cetera, the words used to describe the Third Hokage." (「„歴代最強”„天才”など、三代� �� �� �� �� ��火影を形容する言葉は賞賛に満�� �� �� � �て いる。」, "'Rekidai saikyō' 'tensai' nado, Sandaime Hokage o keiyōsuru kotoba wa shōsan ni michite iru.")

Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と� �� �� �� �� ��われ、„忍の神”と謳われたこ�� �� �� � �も 。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")

Also dan doesn't know of Current Madara, he still thinks it's EMS, he didn't even known Madara was brought back my edo Tensei till choji's dad told him.

 

[kellzfresh]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

+rep to knowmads. Hiruzen fans should beg kishi to show his powers cos I don't see anytin he could have that will beat hashirama's brute force. And madara could have been alive during hiruzens time since he knew nagato. Dan knew hiruzens prime since it was war times but still said only hashirama is powerful enough to stop madara.
Hiruzen was called professor because of his brains, but hashirama is more powerful. Even madara said that hashirama can change the surface of the land like him FACT U_U

 

[lonewolf77766]

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+rep to knowmads. Hiruzen fans should beg kishi to show his powers cos I don't see anytin he could have that will beat hashirama's brute force. And madara could have been alive during hiruzens time since he knew nagato. Dan knew hiruzens prime since it was war times but still said only hashirama is powerful enough to stop madara.
Hiruzen was called professor because of his brains, but hashirama is more powerful. Even madara said that hashirama can change the surface of the land like him FACT U_U

Are you serious?

Summoning Monkey King Enma >> Mokuton

Mokuton isn't a problem to Hiruzen as you've seen them fight, Hiruzen won, move on, live with it.