When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

[Zlad]

Well naruto can surpass hashirama at best (unless he becomes jubi host which may not happen), but if one says Naruto gona surpass Sage, it is madness: even batman's joker wld die laughing at that. None can draw near the sage.

But i think u r wrong there, BM Naruto can beat EMS Sasuke but not that easily. Sasuke is quite strong with his EMS. Rinnegan and Perfect susano is a posibility, but not time manipulation. Then again naruto CAN become jubi host in a lesser scale, do u remember all the biju's approving of him and joining hands. But still the fact will remain that they will always remain near equals, (slight diff will always be there u gotta admit) overall ur right. I hope others realise that too.

Naruto will surpass Hashirama in the end, of course, but no way Rikudou. Pravin5 says ''Naruto will surpass the sage in the end, believe it'' all the time U_U

EMS Sasuke is suppos to be equal to KM Naruto, but Naruto got a powerup again. I'm not a fan of Uzumaki Naruto, but he's speed is too much for Sasuke. It's a possible that he already have the time manipulation (but not activated) like susanoo. That's (in my opinion) the only way he can be equal to Naruto's speed. When I say time manipulation, I mean Tsukuyomi in the real world.

But of course, we'll see. Bijuu mode for Naruto is overrated, because bee can do the same shit

 

[Anorien16]

Naruto will surpass Hashirama in the end, of course, but no way Rikudou. Pravin5 says ''Naruto will surpass the sage in the end, believe it'' all the time U_U

EMS Sasuke is suppos to be equal to KM Naruto, but Naruto got a powerup again. I'm not a fan of Uzumaki Naruto, but he's speed is too much for Sasuke. It's a possible that he already have the time manipulation (but not activated) like susanoo. That's (in my opinion) the only way he can be equal to Naruto's speed. When I say time manipulation, I mean Tsukuyomi in the real world.

But of course, we'll see. Bijuu mode for Naruto is overrated, because bee can do the same shit

As i said b4 anyone surpassing sage is a really bad joke.

Well u can say that, but all i said that sasuke wont lose easily, naruto needs to be very careful. Again i say time manipulation is has very low chances as none can do time jutsues yet, plus if kishi brings up time manipulation on indivisual level it wld bring up solo time traveling, so it has very low chance. Also the only tech that blends real world and genjutsu is izanagi, whereas all that happens in tsuku, happens in the head where the mind is tricked into beliveing what is not real. But if u say time space jutsu, i will grant u it is a possiblity.

Biju mode of naruto is not that overrated as kurama is stronger than hachi, also naruto's biju mode seems diff, its more concentrated.... like sunrays focused through a lens.

 

[Zlad]

As i said b4 anyone surpassing sage is a really bad joke.

Well u can say that, but all i said that sasuke wont lose easily, naruto needs to be very careful. Again i say time manipulation is has very low chances as none can do time jutsues yet, plus if kishi brings up time manipulation on indivisual level it wld bring up solo time traveling, so it has very low chance. Also the only tech that blends real world and genjutsu is izanagi, whereas all that happens in tsuku, happens in the head where the mind is tricked into beliveing what is not real. But if u say time space jutsu, i will grant u it is a possiblity.

Biju mode of naruto is not that overrated as kurama is stronger than hachi, also naruto's biju mode seems diff, its more concentrated.... like sunrays focused through a lens.

+rep for being right.

But people seems to think that Naruto defeated 6 bijuu, something he didnt do.

 

[Anorien16]

+rep for being right.

But people seems to think that Naruto defeated 6 bijuu, something he didnt do.

Thanks

Hmm, naruto did counter all their bijudama ALONE (one of the greatest feats ever) but yes u can say naruto didnt defeat the jinks alone as he had help, and what he actually did was to free them from tobi's control or something similar by removing the chakra rods (remember where the twotail's rod was?)

 

[Pravin5]

Wow Pravin5, you are unbelievable. Manga facts > your opinions. They are suppos to be equal, and it's nothing you can do about it.

First of all I post this Thread just to Tell everyone that dont Say its not Fair for Naruto to use Kyubi

And second thing Manga Facts says Naruto is Related to SO6P not sasuke.

Third Thing Goku also said to Vegeta that they were Equal Just to Bring the Old Vegeta Back by letting him think that They both are Equal But in Reality We all Know Super saiyan 3 thing :rofl:

Toriyama Trolled Vegeta Fans Now Kishi is Trolling Sasuke Fans
Omg i cant wait to see there Expression when the fight ends :scorps:

 

[Zlad]

First of all I post this Thread just to Tell everyone that dont Say its not Fair for Naruto to use Kyubi

And second thing Manga Facts says Naruto is Related to SO6P not sasuke.

Third Thing Goku also said to Vegeta that they were Equal Just to Bring the Old Vegeta Back by letting him think that They both are Equal But in Reality We all Know Super saiyan 3 thing :rofl:

Toriyama Trolled Vegeta Fans Now Kishi is Trolling Sasuke Fans
Omg i cant wait to see there Expression when the fight ends :scorps:

So if you did that, why did you state so many stupid 'facts' that base Naruto can beat Sasuke?

Second, the manga facts says that Naruto is related to Sage's younger son, and Sasuke the elder.

Third, why do you go off topic and take dragon ball in this?

 

[Anorien16]

So if you did that, why did you state so many stupid 'facts' that base Naruto can beat Sasuke?

Second, the manga facts says that Naruto is related to Sage's younger son, and Sasuke the elder.

Third, why do you go off topic and take dragon ball in this?

Well for the second point:

__Elder son ------> Sasuke
/
SO6P
\_____younger son ------> Naruto

So both naruto and sasuke is related to SO6P

Also remember base naruto is not that weak and a good match for sasuke:
1. In base stats naruto still has SM
2. Without Kurama ma and pa can fuse with naruto and indefinately extend SM and also provide sauiton , genjutsu techs and can also release genjutsu if naruto falls under it. (Dont complain if sasuke's summons are not that cool)
3. Dont count on kirin, it requires stormclouds to perform. Sasuke needs hell lot of heat to form clouds, two or three katons not gona do the trick. Sasuke need a lot of time before he can use that and naruto can just blow the clouds away with wind release. Personally i would like to see a rasensuriken and kirin clash. (In fight with itachi it was more of an plot no jutsu and also had help from the extreme heat from amaterasu)
4. Naruto in sage mode has a great power boost to all jutsu, speed, endurance and a near 33% chakra boost.
5. Those who complain naruto has no base chakra check out these facts: both Gaara and Kushina had their bijuu removed, but kushina was able to hold down kurama (even tough she was exhausted) with her chakra chains and gaara can still use his sand powers effectively (even seems to be improving). In a nut shell, jinkchuriki's have high chakra even without their biju, so naruto do have high chakra as he held down kurama since birth plus he has uzumaki powers of strong chakra and life force.
6. Yes naruto needs clones to do most of his techs but needs only one for rasengan and two for rasensuriken, i think he can handle at least 3-4 clones in base mode. (Also note that when clones disappear they add their chakra to their user)
7. Without sharingan sasuke has only raiton and katon. Plus his reflexes will slower as he no longer can predict opponent's moves and genjutsu skill will be much reduced.
8. Lee once defaeted Sasuke easily (just before chunin exams), so can he do it now? past is past.

Side note:
1. Dont complain why SM is included in base form but sharingan is not, its cos SM can be LEARNT, sasuke can learn SM but naruto can never LEARN SHARINGAN.
2. B4 u call me or anyone who agrees with me a fanboy or just simply say sasuke can beat naruto bcos he is sasuke, can u prove my points wrong? OR in anyway prove why naruto is not at least an equal (if not greater than) of sasuke, even in base mode?
3. For proof of my statements:
a. read the manga
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e. Use ur brain and think logically.

 

[Pravin5]

So if you did that, why did you state so many stupid 'facts' that base Naruto can beat Sasuke?

Second, the manga facts says that Naruto is related to Sage's younger son, and Sasuke the elder.

Third, why do you go off topic and take dragon ball in this?

1st of all NAruto is the Main Character of the Manga The whole SToory is About him & Not story of sasuke. And if you think a Main Character is not going to beat his Rival then You mad Bro
And Yes i said NAruto can beat Sasuke & i think you want to say that Naruto cant beat sasuke Hahahaha:rofl: it must be the biggest joke i've ever heard.

2nd thing : Obviously you dont Read Manga carefully But as a Good human I will Give you this Pages to read

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Omg Did i heard him saying sage was Talking about this Kid ???? that is Naruto not sasuke. I guess SO6P is not a Sasuke Fan hmmmm. . .

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So Naruto is going to be the Next 10 tail Jinchuuriki Hahahaha Why not sasuke ??? cause thats the bottomline but this time cause SO6P said So....

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THE OLD MAN WAS TALKING ABOUT NARUTO !!!!!
Curse you Old man Why you no talk about Sasuke ???? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


And Last Thing DO you even Know DBZ inspired kishi to make Naruto ???????
No Guess You dont hahaha

 

[Champ]

Base Naruto isn't Sage mode what are you retards talking about

 

[Anorien16]

Base Naruto isn't Sage mode what are you retards talking about

What is the defination base i ask?
I thought it meant jutsus that can be learned by regular people with luck or hard work and excludes KKG and other power boosts. I think sage mode can be learnt (by ppl having pacts and earning respect from their summons) by ppl, jirya did, naruto did, even kabuto did....... (sasuke might have if he didnt kill manda)

Are u gona consider base Onoki with out dust release cos it can be learnt only from Muu?

 

[Zlad]

1st of all NAruto is the Main Character of the Manga The whole SToory is About him & Not story of sasuke. And if you think a Main Character is not going to beat his Rival then You mad Bro
And Yes i said NAruto can beat Sasuke & i think you want to say that Naruto cant beat sasuke Hahahaha:rofl: it must be the biggest joke i've ever heard.

2nd thing : Obviously you dont Read Manga carefully But as a Good human I will Give you this Pages to read

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Omg Did i heard him saying sage was Talking about this Kid ???? that is Naruto not sasuke. I guess SO6P is not a Sasuke Fan hmmmm. . .

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So Naruto is going to be the Next 10 tail Jinchuuriki Hahahaha Why not sasuke ??? cause thats the bottomline but this time cause SO6P said So....

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THE OLD MAN WAS TALKING ABOUT NARUTO !!!!!
Curse you Old man Why you no talk about Sasuke ???? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


And Last Thing DO you even Know DBZ inspired kishi to make Naruto ???????
No Guess You dont hahaha

..Sasuke is also the main character if you didnt know. When you VS here, plot/main character doesn't matter.

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''You >>two<< have been choosen by fate''

You got some really fanboy problems, so I guess I won't go down to your state.

So both naruto and sasuke is related to SO6P

Exactly, but that's something Pravin5 don't understand. I've never said that SM isnt base Naruto, so what are you talking about?

 

[Anorien16]

..Sasuke is also the main character if you didnt know. When you VS here, plot/main character doesn't matter.

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''You >>two<< have been choosen by fate''

You got some really fanboy problems, so I guess I won't go down to your state.


Exactly, but that's something Pravin5 don't understand. I've never said that SM isnt base Naruto, so what are you talking about?

Oh sorry! dont misunderstand me my friend, i was not refering to specifically 2 u, i just reposted one of my earlier posts. But if u check champ's post u wld see why.

 

[Champ]

What is the defination base i ask?
I thought it meant jutsus that can be learned by regular people with luck or hard work and excludes KKG and other power boosts. I think sage mode can be learnt (by ppl having pacts and earning respect from their summons) by ppl, jirya did, naruto did, even kabuto did....... (sasuke might have if he didnt kill manda)

Are u gona consider base Onoki with out dust release cos it can be learnt only from Muu?

Base is not Sage mode, Km or Bm

 

[Zlad]

Oh sorry! dont misunderstand me my friend, i was not refering to specifically 2 u, i just reposted one of my earlier posts. But if u check champ's post u wld see why.

It's ok

 

[MidKnight]

biju naruto would lose to rinnegan sasuke...everything else u said I think is true

Yeah, proof or gtfo. Sasuke doesnt even have rinnegan & we havent even seen the full power of bijuu mode. So please stfu & stop making ridiculous accusations.

 

[Zlad]

Yeah, proof or gtfo. Sasuke doesnt even have rinnegan & we havent even seen the full power of bijuu mode. So please stfu & stop making ridiculous accusations.

Relax, he said would. Rinnegan Sasuke with perfect susanoo and bijuu mode would be equal, as well as Sasuke got the secret scroll that can control this war.

 

[Champ]

Relax, he said would. Rinnegan Sasuke with perfect susanoo and bijuu mode would be equal, as well as Sasuke got the secret scroll that can control this war.

Sasuke would be too strong Rinnegan which would absorbs all of Naruto ninjutsu and a perfect Susano'o like Madara

 

[Anorien16]

Base is not Sage mode, Km or Bm

Sage Mode is practically a jutsu, have u heard 'senjutsu'?
Base mode means no extra boosts, since sage mode or senjutsu counts as extra boosts...... its a side effect from using senjutsu chakra.

 

[Anorien16]

Sasuke would be too strong Rinnegan which would absorbs all of Naruto ninjutsu and a perfect Susano'o like Madara

Well do u remember what happened when Pain absorbed naruto's sage chakra? Re turned to stone

 

[Champ]

Sage Mode is practically a jutsu, have u heard 'senjutsu'?
Base mode means no extra boosts, since sage mode or senjutsu counts as extra boosts...... its a side effect from using senjutsu chakra.

No matter how you try to phrase it Sage mode is not Naruto's base. Even tho EMS is sasuke base :noc: