When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

So after Reading the Who Thread DO you Think Naruto using Kurama is Fair ???

  • YES it is Fair

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  • NO Its Not Fair .

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NOW the Real Deal Why Naruto is Stronger than Sasuke And its Total Fair

yeah, because you said so... :rolleyes:

1. Normal Naruto [Without Kyubi & Sage mode] vs Sasuke [With Normal Eyes]
Winner : NAruto [ He can easily kill Him With Rasenshuurikin & Wihout Sharingan Sasuke is Total USeless]

So, basically, you call mastery over Katon and Raiton totally useless? Sasuke will kill Normal Naruto in a matter of seconds with a chidori Raimei...


2. Naruto with Sage Mode Vs Sasuke with MS
Come on We all know what Would have Happen if Naruto wanted to Kill MS Sasuke HE could have Using Sage Mode. Sasuke was No match for Naruto & Zetsu said Naruto is Stronger than Sasuke.

first, don't invent BS to suport your theory. I hate it when fanboys do that... Zetsu never said such thing... U_U Second, this fight is still in Sasuke's favor... One can burn/hypnotize anything by barely looking at it, as well as create a god-like aura, wile the other can merely cast a biger variation of his rasengan, and a small speed boost... Not a mach... Maybe Kiubi mode would do the trick, but not Sage Mode... U_U

3. Naruto Bijuu Mode Or Bijuu mode 2 Vs EMS Sasuke.
Now Naruto Bijuu Mode Can take Down EMS Sasuke with High Difficulties
But Take Bijuu mode 2 vs EMS sasuke & Sasuke is Almost R@ped to Death if Naruto really Wants to kill Him. :rofl:

BS again... First, you are talking about Kiubi Mode, and, second, Biju mode is merely as strong as the Susano perfect form (wich is obviusly an EMS power up of the Susano)...


OH I Forgot Sasuke Will Get Rinnegan One Day Then What ????? Oh, I forgot, naruto will get to have all nine Biju inside him, then what?

Honestly If a Sage mode Naruto can Beat a Rinnegan Nagato then Why cant a Bijuu Mode 2 Naruto beat the Rinnegan Sasuke ???? and Even if you got any more Doubts then Check this Out
Because that's totally what happened: Sage mode Naruto, without ANY help from Kurama, won against Nagato, not his 6 paths that, as said by Konnan, were merelly a fragment of his true power... Also, Konnan said that, if they were to fight, Nagato would win...


and For the Fact Naruto Only Have Half Of Kyubi Chakra [ Cause the 4th hokage sealed the Other Half within HimSelf] Now Keep Imagine What would HAve HAppen if Naruto Gets the Full Power of Kyubi. Hahaha dont imagine your Brain will Exploade and as i said As NAruto got Sage's Body [He have all rights to Use Kurama] & His Heart of Strength that is His Guts to Never Give up Will Make him Winner Anyday
SO JUST BELIEVE IT !!!!!
Yeah, you are totally basing this on facts, and you never use speculation... :rolleyes:

I removed the parts that were too BS to even bother argueing about... U_U
 

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lol so now were useing sasuke's abilties?:flaw::sy: then game over. ems, reads naruto's momvents, im sure he has picked up on some of tobi's movements and he fought kabuto sage dragon mode. as soon as naruto would get close he would be outside of susanoo and blaze realeas around susanoo would kill him. game over.

Did you just say he would read naruto's movements? No sir, Naruto is now faster than Raikage and he couldn't keep up with raikage or he would have hit him with amer. EMS's sight is not better than MS the light just never fades, you can become more adept with the eyes but if he couldn't keep up with Raikage he wouldn't keep up with naurto. Also, Naruto is not a taijutsu guy he wouldn't punch susano. He would Bijuu dama it and end sasuke lol. Also rasenshuriken can also be thrown... I just do not see why you think naruto is gonna punch a giant chakra monster aura.
 

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Thats like saying sauskue isint string without his sharingan. common son.
 

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lol, thanks a lot sir

currently, i'm writing a sasuke love story called .:Mirrors of Vengeance:. it's not really a 'love story' yet though...i've got it all planned out but i don't think it'll be all cheesy and crap.

my sig, it's like you said, to know hate, one must know love. once one comes to know any emotion, they'll know it's oposite as well...
 

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Just because you say the databook is wrong does not mean it is, stop trying to push your opinion into facts. Wtf are you talking about, Naruto had Kurama in him when he fought kakazu. The only reason Naruto was able to use 2 rasenshuriken was because he had Kurama in him which gave him higher chakra levels. Are you insane, when Sasuke uses chidori with the sharingan it gives him better accuracy. you don't necessarily need the sharingan do the chidori. When it comes to chidori its all about the speed. You obviously don't know a lot about chidori.



Hahaha Obviously You dont know that Having Kurama & Using Its Power is Diffrent Thing. And this Shows You are crazy Fanboy
If you have Brain or you watch Episode Carfully DOnt ask Me ask Anyone That " Did Naruto used Kurama's Power against Kakazu & Then Reply Me "
And 2nd of all Kakashi Tought Chidori to sasuke Just Cuz he had Sharingan Cuz he Knows Without SHaringan The Technique is Almost useless
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HE IS THE SAME AS ME [MEANS WE BOTH HAVE SHARINGAN}

Look What Minato Says ITS AN INCOMPLETE JUTSU

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Yes Without Sharingan Chidori Cant be Used & also Forget about using Kirin.
Now See WIthout Sharingan Kakashi Lost to a Shadow Clone Guy Who's Shadow clone Technique is Nothing Compared to Naruto & He dont even have Rasengan He only Uses his Sword :rofl: and you think Sasuke Gonna beat naruto with chidori :flaw:

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Now See How the Technique is Completed Because of the Sharingan. Clearly Written you can see it unless you are Blind sasuke Fan " OBITO YOU COMPLETED THIS JUTSU "
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hahahaha Poor Sasuke Fans after Reading this they are like WTH
 

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You must be kidding... Chidori can be used without sharingan.... He used Sharingan to learn in one moth.... It is upto speed.. thats why kakashi taught Lee's style of fighting to sasuke....:flaw:

More over you guys talk a lot about basic sasuke and naruto... you are isolating sharingan and saying it is a basic sasuke because of kekae genkai........ and by isolating Kurama you are saying basic naruto..... (It is not fair)....:confused::mad::mad::mad:

NAruto and Sasuke were born with narutal abilities.... Both have the powers pass down from SO6P.... sasuke has his eyes and naruto has his body.....

So if you call both as normal, you have to remove the powers passed down from SO6P.

In that case naruto cant use his rasenshuriken, Multi shawdow clone jutsu....
Then how could he able to defeat sasuke..... Sasuke can use fireball jutsu and chidori and karin.... But naruto can use rasenshuriken only if he enters into the SM.... Even with his power now his limit is only 2 rasenshuriken....

If he is a basic naruto he can use only once (May be not).... Sasuke can easily counter with his fire style.....:p:p:p:p...

He can finish him with Karin......

Naruto Sucks and Sasuke Won........:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
 

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Naruto fans are really a jerks than naruto.....:sy:
 
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You must be kidding... Chidori can be used without sharingan.... He used Sharingan to learn in one moth.... It is upto speed.. thats why kakashi taught Lee's style of fighting to sasuke....:flaw:

More over you guys talk a lot about basic sasuke and naruto... you are isolating sharingan and saying it is a basic sasuke because of kekae genkai........ and by isolating Kurama you are saying basic naruto..... (It is not fair)....:confused::mad::mad::mad:

NAruto and Sasuke were born with narutal abilities.... Both have the powers pass down from SO6P.... sasuke has his eyes and naruto has his body.....

So if you call both as normal, you have to remove the powers passed down from SO6P.

In that case naruto cant use his rasenshuriken, Multi shawdow clone jutsu....
Then how could he able to defeat sasuke..... Sasuke can use fireball jutsu and chidori and karin.... But naruto can use rasenshuriken only if he enters into the SM.... Even with his power now his limit is only 2 rasenshuriken....

If he is a basic naruto he can use only once (May be not).... Sasuke can easily counter with his fire style.....:p:p:p:p...

He can finish him with Karin......

Naruto Sucks and Sasuke Won........:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

Yes chidori can be used without sharingan but without sharingan it is INCOMPLETE, bcos of the speed of the tech one has to focus on the front completely and in a way experiances tunnel vision (thus open for flanking) and so can be countered. But sharingan negates this disadvantage. (read )

How isolating sharingan and kurama is not fair? both have their greatest advantage removed.Without them they will have to depend on their skill and jutsus alone, no biju power up and no dojutsu advantages. Much like NORMAL Naruto do have strong chakra and life force, but that is only needed to supress kurama ,it is no real use in battle; naruto didnt inheirit his amount of chakra reserve from SO6P (pls note that even after shukaku was removed from Gaara he still can use his sand techs, and is still improving) Also strong chakra, fire affinity etc too are genetic gifts of the uchiha, but we didnt discount them (Check for proof)

Also without kurama naruto can fuse with ma and pa, who have suiton, fuuton, genjutsu etc and provides nature energy to naruto to keep up the sage mode indefinately. Also kirin has a long preparation time and need clouds for that and just can't use it instateneously. (Plus it is more of a plot no justu) Also non sage mode naruto can use rasensuriken thrice, (check ) and power limit will be increased due to fusion with ma and pa, plus naruto can do other rasengans too.

Sasuke was once deafeated by lee very easily so sasuke sucks too no? Also Sasuke ran away from Gaara and would have been killed if it wasnt for naruto, so sasuke is useless no? Past is past.

Why naruto is a jerk? Cos he can fight on equal terms and may defeat sasuke now?
 
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lol, thanks a lot sir

currently, i'm writing a sasuke love story called .:Mirrors of Vengeance:. it's not really a 'love story' yet though...i've got it all planned out but i don't think it'll be all cheesy and crap.

my sig, it's like you said, to know hate, one must know love. once one comes to know any emotion, they'll know it's oposite as well...

Again, lol xd

Yes i read it, its quite nice and u really did a good job. Also saw the vid, it was moving.
 

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Wow Pravin5, you are unbelievable. Manga facts > your opinions. They are suppos to be equal, and it's nothing you can do about it.
 

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Wow Pravin5, you are unbelievable. Manga facts > your opinions. They are suppos to be equal, and it's nothing you can do about it.

I think Pravin5 actually wants to say that they are equals if there are no fanboyism and biasedness.
 

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I think Pravin5 actually wants to say that they are equals if there are no fanboyism and biasedness.
Really? Because I just readed this from the thread starter:

''NOW the Real Deal Why Naruto is Stronger than Sasuke And its Total Fair


1. Normal Naruto [Without Kyubi & Sage mode] vs Sasuke [With Normal Eyes]
Winner : NAruto [ He can easily kill Him With Rasenshuurikin & Wihout Sharingan Sasuke is Total USeless]''


One word: lol
 

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Really? Because I just readed this from the thread starter:

''NOW the Real Deal Why Naruto is Stronger than Sasuke And its Total Fair


1. Normal Naruto [Without Kyubi & Sage mode] vs Sasuke [With Normal Eyes]
Winner : NAruto [ He can easily kill Him With Rasenshuurikin & Wihout Sharingan Sasuke is Total USeless]''


One word: lol

U will notice that Pravin5 is pissed that Sasuke fans are always complaining kurama is a external power source, so he is half bashing sasuke fans and half defending his belief and so kinda straying away from his original line of thought. Well none of the fanboys can accept the facts that sasuke happens to be a uchiha and naruto happens to be a jinkchuriki, so both deserve their power, sasuke may not be a uchiha if sasuke's mother had a affair with..... say Guy's father and naruto may not be a jinkchuriki if his parents wasnt Minato and kushina and hadnt been attacked. But sasuke's mom WAS faithful and tobi DID attack, so no crying over spilled milk.
 

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I cannot agree this...
Naruto and Sasuke were born with narutal abilities.... Both have the powers pass down from SO6P.... sasuke has his eyes and naruto has his body..... Isn't.

In this case you are only removing the power of the nine tails.... What about his powers pass down from SO6P...? (His strong body and chakra).....:confused:
 

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U will notice that Pravin5 is pissed that Sasuke fans are always complaining kurama is a external power source, so he is half bashing sasuke fans and half defending his belief and so kinda straying away from his original line of thought. Well none of the fanboys can accept the facts that sasuke happens to be a uchiha and naruto happens to be a jinkchuriki, so both deserve their power, sasuke may not be a uchiha if sasuke's mother had a affair with..... say Guy's father and naruto may not be a jinkchuriki if his parents wasnt Minato and kushina and hadnt been attacked. But sasuke's mom WAS faithful and tobi DID attack, so no crying over spilled milk.
And notice that others get pissed when he is saying that Naruto will surpass the Sage, and when he says Naruto > Base sasuke. Do you know what the truth is? They will be equal no matter what, Kishi have stated that shit so many times that everyone should understand it now.

Bijuu mode Naruto would completly crush EMS Sasuke, but.. What if Sasuke gets the rinnegan? What if he gets the perfect susanoo, and a ablity like time manipulation? That would make him OP fast - as Naruto.

Hope you understand what I wanted you to understand, eh. Pravin5 is completly overrating Naruto
 

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I cannot agree this...
Naruto and Sasuke were born with narutal abilities.... Both have the powers pass down from SO6P.... sasuke has his eyes and naruto has his body..... Isn't.

In this case you are only removing the power of the nine tails.... What about his powers pass down from SO6P...? (His strong body and chakra).....:confused:

Get ur facts right:
Power of 'body' includes, will power and life force (not chakra), which is only useful in living long and supressing biju.
Power of 'eyes' include, the sage's eyes and powerful chakra, i dont need to explain this.

Read: last stanza of background

So it is the uchiha who got the chakra boost from Sage not the senzu or uzumaki who got the ability to be better jinkchuriki than normal (that does in a way mean the bijus belong to the younger son, but lets ignore it)
 

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I agree with you dude....:y i cant wait to see the match between them in the current stage....:crazy:
 
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And notice that others get pissed when he is saying that Naruto will surpass the Sage, and when he says Naruto > Base sasuke. Do you know what the truth is? They will be equal no matter what, Kishi have stated that shit so many times that everyone should understand it now.

Bijuu mode Naruto would completly crush EMS Sasuke, but.. What if Sasuke gets the rinnegan? What if he gets the perfect susanoo, and a ablity like time manipulation? That would make him OP fast - as Naruto.

Hope you understand what I wanted you to understand, eh. Pravin5 is completly overrating Naruto

Well naruto can surpass hashirama at best (unless he becomes jubi host which may not happen), but if one says Naruto gona surpass Sage, it is madness: even batman's joker wld die laughing at that. None can draw near the sage.

What i agree with him is that if there is battle with sasuke minus the sharingan and naruto minus the kyubi, naruto has a fair chance of winning.

But i think u r wrong there, BM Naruto can beat EMS Sasuke but not that easily. Sasuke is quite strong with his EMS. Rinnegan and Perfect susano is a posibility, but not time manipulation. Then again naruto CAN become jubi host in a lesser scale, do u remember all the biju's approving of him and joining hands. But still the fact will remain that they will always remain near equals, (slight diff will always be there u gotta admit) overall ur right. I hope others realise that too.
 
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