jiraiya is the weakest sannins

[HokageKid]

I don't see Tsunade breaking out of the toad song genjutsu

 

[naruto1246]

oro>jiriaya>tsunade>oro

its just like rock paper scissors. snake beats frog, slug beats snake, and frog beats slug

 

[Dark Artist]

oro>jiriaya>tsunade>oro

its just like rock paper scissors. snake beats frog, slug beats snake, and frog beats slug

lol how can tsunade beat Oro

her physical punches ( with chakara even ) is not working on Oro's body

second her summon is weak comparing to manda and that giant 8 branches snake

also don't forget he has edo tensei
and who knows how many jutsu he knows

he didn't show up his full power unlike jman

 

[jordan1]

fail thread

 

[Dark Artist]

oro's edo tensei is useless, we have seen that 3rd hokage was able to defeat 1st n 2nd hokage at the same time n every1 knows that 1st was the strongest shinobi till now
using edo tensei also he still lost to the old man who was above 70years of age at that time. This shows oro is week n little low in stamina compared to tsunade and j-man
while tsunade herself has agreed that j-man should be the hokage not her(when they had their last chat

fail spelling

he is not weak he was toying with the third hokage

second i think u saw him punch the shit out of the hokage
remember the punch on hokage face

second remember the third hokage didn't die just because of that shinigami jutsu

he died also because he got stabbed by Oro's sword
he will die because of this anyway

man Orochimaru is like the most underrated character in naruto

Extreamly underrated by idiots and haters

 

[UnrealSoul]

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LMFAO!!!! indeed....

 

[TrollingSage]

oro never witnessed it? how in the earth do you know that?

Nagato knew he had sennin mode wtf.. and the only time Jiraya saw nagato was back then where Oro was his partner..

Actually judging from his reaction here and the fact that he didnt know absorbing too much nature chakra has its risks I dont think he did

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Besides stopping Jiraiya from entering sm is easier said than done

 

[naruto1246]

lol how can tsunade beat Oro

her physical punches ( with chakara even ) is not working on Oro's body

second her summon is weak comparing to manda and that giant 8 branches snake

also don't forget he has edo tensei
and who knows how many jutsu he knows

he didn't show up his full power unlike jman

welp im just going by what i know tsunade has a skill set skill thats better against oro and jiriaya has a skill set thats better against tsunade and so on dont bring edo into this i mean how many times has oro used that, once i dont think he'd use that against teammates who he thinks are worms compared to him. but any way back on the threads topic jiraiya isnt the weakest sannin just like alot of people have said he's in the middle tsunade is the weakest but its mostly because i believe she's been out of practice for a long time. theres more i wanted to say but i cant remember it

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Tsunade cant stop jman going sm.
It is plainly obvious oro who has never witnessed toad sage mode will allow J man to go into sm. He wont make any effort to kill J man and toy with him like he does in pretty much EVERY FIGHT(Yamato, naruto & sasuke in part 1, in shippuden, hiruzen, itachi, etc)

Jariya started training in sage mode at like 12-14 he achieved it at a young age
In the fight with Hanzo it was Said the sannin went all out (tht would mean jariya used sage mode)
This was b4 oro did all expirements to himself and shizz
But they been partners for 20 plus years jariya achieved it at like 16 so why wouldn't he know how it is and who u think got oro looking for snake sage (the only one with sage mode meaning jariya) meaning me must of found out bout it from jariya so what u talkin bout??

welp im just going by what i know tsunade has a skill set skill thats better against oro and jiriaya has a skill set thats better against tsunade and so on dont bring edo into this i mean how many times has oro used that, once i dont think he'd use that against teammates who he thinks are worms compared to him. but any way back on the threads topic jiraiya isnt the weakest sannin just like alot of people have said he's in the middle tsunade is the weakest but its mostly because i believe she's been out of practice for a long time. theres more i wanted to say but i cant remember it

He used it against an ederly old man he doesn't think there worms in fact oro said tsunade was the only one he wouldn't kill in this world and he offered to bring her husband and bro back with it so why not to torment her and jman

 

[naruto1246]

He used it against an ederly old man he doesn't think there worms in fact oro said tsunade was the only one he wouldn't kill in this world and he offered to bring her husband and bro back with it so why not to torment her and jman

i cant fight against that avatar on a topic like this

 

[Dark Artist]

welp im just going by what i know tsunade has a skill set skill thats better against oro and jiriaya has a skill set thats better against tsunade and so on dont bring edo into this i mean how many times has oro used that, once i dont think he'd use that against teammates who he thinks are worms compared to him. but any way back on the threads topic jiraiya isnt the weakest sannin just like alot of people have said he's in the middle tsunade is the weakest but its mostly because i believe she's been out of practice for a long time. theres more i wanted to say but i cant remember it

and who said jiraiya is the weakest

jiraiya is one of my favorite characters

he is a beast but i think Oro is the strongest
even though jiraiya is close to him in my book

and tsunade is the weakest untill now
( she broke madara susano though lol )

 

[naruto1246]

and who said jiraiya is the weakest
jiraiya is one of my favorite characters

he is a beast but i think Oro is the strongest
even though jiraiya is close to him in my book

and tsunade is the weakest untill now
( she broke madara susano though lol )

:sy: your kiding right look at the title of the thread

and i agree with you mostly

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

i cant fight against that avatar on a topic like this

Lmfao ur right but he's my fav villain my fav charecter is gaara gaara fan boy

 

[Cascade]

Ok oro was sick when he faught 4 tails the speed he displayed is faster then jariya has ever shown (except sage mode) oro will not let jariya get into sage mode do a logical senerio where he would be able to get sage mode seriously I can't see it happening and the genjutsu thing jariya sucks at genjutsu it's in the data book but anyway why would oro let jariya get him in genjutsu ??????? And what genjutsu have u ever seen jariya do and Dnt say tht song thing because Thts with every frog sage he won't have time to get in sage mode same with tsnuade if not more cuz she's strictly a close range fighter so she wojt be letting him get out of her site

he wasn't sick, stop making up stupid crap for your own convenience - he needed to swap bodies but he was definitly NOT sick - + half the time, Oro fanboys like you attempt to say that 'he could just use white snake technique to pwn' - which is only available once every 3 years - when Oro needs to swap bodies, so wtf r u talking about 'he was weak' - next - Jiraiya CAN GO TO SM WITH MA AND PA ON HIS SHOULDERS - he doesn't need to prep from SM - stop changing facts to suit Oro. Jesus

 

[TrollingSage]

Jariya started training in sage mode at like 12-14 he achieved it at a young age
In the fight with Hanzo it was Said the sannin went all out (tht would mean jariya used sage mode)
This was b4 oro did all expirements to himself and shizz
But they been partners for 20 plus years jariya achieved it at like 16 so why wouldn't he know how it is and who u think got oro looking for snake sage (the only one with sage mode meaning jariya) meaning me must of found out bout it from jariya so what u talkin bout??

I dont know if he saw J man in his current sm, we can only speculate. In any case he is still powerful than j man in sm, so i dont see why oro will go against his cocky nature and prevent J man from expressing himself. None of jman's nin and tai will get to him except for for an unsuspecting gen. If it plays in this scenario then j man wins.
Or J man uses a sealing tech oro isnt aware of(like secret uzumaki shit) and oro doesnt react fast enough.
All am saying is Oro is the strongest but J man has a chance to claim top spot. Tsunade remains perpetually last as it stands while those 2 battle for 1st & 2nd with reasonable chances at either.

 

[Dark Artist]

he wasn't sick, stop making up stupid crap for your own convenience - he needed to swap bodies but he was definitly NOT sick - + half the time, Oro fanboys like you attempt to say that 'he could just use white snake technique to pwn' - which is only available once every 3 years - when Oro needs to swap bodies, so wtf r u talking about 'he was weak' - next - Jiraiya CAN GO TO SM WITH MA AND PA ON HIS SHOULDERS - he doesn't need to prep from SM - stop changing facts to suit Oro. Jesus

still can't sleep in the night because of Oro ?

what a worthless troll and idiot u are

he wasn't sick ?

and jiraiya doesn't need prep from SM ?

maybe u were watching another show

i think Oro did something to u when u was a kid thats why u hate him that much lol

 

[BloodSeed]

youre right jiraiya is the weakest :rofl:

the data book disagree
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tsunade

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itachi

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and itachi disagree!

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itachi and jiraiya stalemate

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ops even nagato disagree with you

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thread closed! your welcome!

 

[BloodSeed]

oh men wheres the OP?

 

[Tazzilla88]

lol how can tsunade beat Oro

her physical punches ( with chakara even ) is not working on Oro's body

second her summon is weak comparing to manda and that giant 8 branches snake

also don't forget he has edo tensei
and who knows how many jutsu he knows

he didn't show up his full power unlike jman

Actually Tsunade punched Orochimaru once and Orochimaru was done
Second His summon only bites and and coils around enemies. Her summon spits acid, divides, aids in healing people, allows Tsunade to sense what she sees, is able to communicate through all of her minis regardless of distance, and is immune to cut and stab damage

If he hasn't shown them he doesn't have them.

Orochimaru vs Tsunade.
Location: This battle happens same place as last time. It starts in Tanzuka town and Oro can move if he chooses, but it wasn't his idea to move in the manga.
Knowledge: What was known when he fought Tsunade the first time (nothing on regen techs)
Power Levels: Because Orochimaru got sicker as the manga progressed and weaker through his sickness it will be the Same Orochimaru that fought Tsunade before but with his arms functioning. As for Tsunade she has what she has shown until now since she has not gotten weaker with time.
Tools: What the Naruto wiki says they have excluding anime only tools.
Restrictions: Edo-Hashirama and Edo-Tobirama. They are both sealed and he wouldn't have been able to use them against Tsunade. Naruto, Jiraiya, Kabuto, and Shizune are not here...well they could be eating popcorn on the sidelines or something but no assistance. Body Shedding is limited to 2 times as it takes a lot of chakra and we want to save chakra for him to go 8 branches. And finally Twin Snakes Mutual Death Technique. Nobody would win with that technique


So here's what I think working under the the ideas provided by the databook. Their prowess in ninjutsu is the same albeit in they are strong in different areas. She is by far better at taijutsu in comparison to him. He is much better at casting genjutsu. They are of equal intellect. He is a whole tier faster than her. She has more stamina than him. He performs hand seals faster than she does.

• Attack Prevention Technique: is pointless if Tsunade goes ahead and punches the surface Orochimaru has blended into
• Binding Snake Glare Spell: Her natural strength was great enough to lift Gamabunta's sword, so ripping snakes shouldn't cause too much problems.
• Body Flame Technique- Too slow and where would he go?
• Body Shedding- Actually this is very useful. Orochimaru's body was healthy when Tsunade punched him before but he could not shed his skin because of his arms. So he had to quit the fight. No he can afford being hit by Tsunade twice while in human form.
• Five Elements Seal- Would require she had an even numbered seal on to be effective.
• Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes- Problematic however this technique can be cancelled out by heavenly foot of Pain if acted upon immediately.
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• Gathering of Snakes isn't useful because of the nature of Tsunade's attacks in combination with Orochimaru's soft physique technique. So she won't cut his body.
• Hidden Shadow snake hands would work against Orochimaru if he tries to grab Tsunade with it as there'd only be a repeat like when he tried to grab her with his tongue. If he tries to poison her, her liver will regenerate and render the poison moot. Or she could use the antidote she has in her tools, which she'd probably have anyway because she worked with Oro for so long.
• Living Corpse Reincarnation: He's not going to use this in the heat of battle but if he does Tsunade has the mental fortitude to attack while impaled, to attack with stomach and respiratory muscles cut, and to overcome a phobia in addition to her precise chakra control I see her breaking free. The obvious counter to this argument is Orochimaru has a 5 in genjutsu and she only has a 3. This is true but she also has better chakra control. It was stated that healing jutus require a lot of chakra and she managed to heal a whole village, while keeping up her transformation technique, and she had summoned Katsuyu which as we've seen with Jiraiya and Naruto large summons take considerable chakra. In the war she has healed her stomach twice (Susanoo Sword and 3 Yasaka Magatamas) and used creation rebirth to heal the wounds from the heavenly transfer technique, in addition to healing the other kages, and breaking through Susanoo and Madara's mokuton clone. Additionally it was also stated that Medical jutsu requires precise chakra control because if the chakra is not controlled effectively the patient can be killed or the justu is ineffective and Tsunade is hailed as the greatest living medic.
• Summoning Gate and Triple Summoning Gate Rashomon: Kiba and Akamaru put a dent in the single gate in Part I. Tsunade breaks through it.
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• Sword of Kusanagi: Longsword of the Sky- Tsunade needs only grab the sword. As long as it doesn't decapitate her she'll survive if she can regrow vital organs in her abdomen then she should be able to regrow limbs and digits.
• Temporary Paralysis Technique- Iirc Genin Sasuke and Sakura overcame this technique.
• Wind Release: Great Breakthrough -If Tsunade is using her chakra to stay on the ground like she did when Pein attacked the village (she was using it to counter shinra tensei) then I see her receiving injuries similar to the heavenly transfer technique which she'd heal.
• Eight Branches is nothing but very large taijutsu taijutsu. Tsunade would only need to punch the heads as they attack and the damage recieved with byakougou.
• Then there is Manda and Katsuya. Katsuya would prove useful against the 8 branches technique. Manda also had no jutsus he could bite and coil. For that reason he'd be defeated as well.
• Body Pathway Derangement could be countered by perhaps a raiton cloak which Oro does not have and his taijutsu and stamina is less than Tsunade's so he could get caught by that.
• She can fight similar to Kabuto evidenced by
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  she wouldn't be able to compare their strength unless they're styles were similar. If Orochimaru got caught in a similar way to Tsunade then he would eventually need to shed his body.
• Against her strength he would need to shed his body.
• Against Katsuya's acid he would have to shed.

And if Orochimaru does have his edos that does pose a very significant problem for Tsunade but considering Orochimaru's control is based on talisman in the the edo's head should Tsunade be able to destroy the talisman then surely, Tsunade's grandfather and granduncle would be more inclined to help her than Orochimaru.
My conclusion Tsunade would win

At full power Jiraiya can beat Tsunade I'm not denying that. However, saying Tsunade wouldn't stop Jiraiya from entering Sage Mode is a bit rediculous. Her fighting style requires her to stay close to Jiraiya. Which means he can't try to go run away like he did against Pein because she would be right on his heels. Bearing in mind how high she can jump, smoke bombs would provide no real cover. Given Tsunade's fighting style she also doesn't give one the time to sit and prepare a technique.

Jiraiya SM>Tsunade Byakougou>Orochimaru 8 Branches>Jiraiya SM

 

[Dunmire66]

1. Jiraiya
2. Orochimaru
3. Tsunade