When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

[IzunaUchiha2]

i agree

 

[IzunaUchiha2]

Plus rep u desver it

 

[AlexXx]

dude i love you for this. sasuke is lucky that naruto dont intend to kill him.

and i think that this will be the next stage on narutos transformation. he gets the other half of kyuubi chakura and then ............

 

[Anorien16]

yes, i was not talking to only you though. my last statement goes for any fan who judges other fans. we ALL need to be careful.

and yes, our coices show who we truly are far more than our abilities...however, many of us decide to continue to hope for those who made the wrong choices because we remember the awesome person they used to be and believe that that old personality can come back to be redeemed.

U in a way speak of me too, what i really want is to sasuke to realise his mistake and become friends with naruto again and fight together to stop tobi. U know sasuke and naruto are two halves to sage's power, if they are united (as a team) they in a way way will form the whole of sage's power, seperate but one. I think sage would have wanted this for his sons (er.... distant decendends) to work together like this.

 

[Mishima]

Databook also says Amaterasu is as hot as Sun But Thats Wrong.
Databook also says Hiruzen is Strongest Hokage But Thats Wrong too.

& Btw without Kurama Naruto already used 2 Rasenshuriken. One missed & One Killed 2 Hearts of Kakazu so watch anime First then say He cant do it. yes it has Risks but he can on the other hand Without Sharingan sasuke Cant even do Perfect CHidori WHile NAruto can DO Rasengan & Odama Rasengan :shrug:

Just because you say the databook is wrong does not mean it is, stop trying to push your opinion into facts. Wtf are you talking about, Naruto had Kurama in him when he fought kakazu. The only reason Naruto was able to use 2 rasenshuriken was because he had Kurama in him which gave him higher chakra levels. Are you insane, when Sasuke uses chidori with the sharingan it gives him better accuracy. you don't necessarily need the sharingan do the chidori. When it comes to chidori its all about the speed. You obviously don't know a lot about chidori.

 

[Sonin]

Why take away Karuma? Because that is given power? Well you see sasuke has been handed just as much power

Sasuke Uchiha... Let us look at this amazing shinobi over the ages. He was top in his academy graduation class. He activated his sharringan around 13. He learned chidori as a genin. He is supperior in thought, taijutsu, genjutsu, and strategy then most his age.

He got a seal that gave him power... He feels the need for more so he leaves the leaf.

He works hard to master Chidori and become very adept in his genjutsu. He then takes on orochimaru by himself and then defeated diedara... You know what? Thus far he is a pretty great guy.

Then Kishi had an orgasm.... He actually had Itachi die and the moment he did he turned sasuke into a god... With no hard work at all.... That is why Sasuke is hated. He didn't earn his most recent ridiculously overused new powers.

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Right there.. Sasuke had no clue about MS in himself nor awakened it

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And i quote ALL OF HIS EYE Power XD

Then Tobi implanted ITACHI'S eyes giving him EMS

The only credit i give Sasuke was the fact that he mastered Chidori and Genjutsu. Also he is a good strategist.. Other than that his last 3 techniques were handed to him just by a touch of itachi.. Too much IMO. Naruto worked for days on Sage mode. He trained. He worked for days on Rasenshuriken Made the technique himself and then learned to throw it. He is just as good as a strategist anymore it seems. But the only thing handed to him is Kyubi mode but we are seeing this for the first time and it took taming the kyubi


Naruto, He worked hard for sage mode, rasenshuriken, ect. Then controlling the kyubi. So they were both handed a good amount in the end.

Btw- i am pretty sure they will be equal

 

[Anorien16]

omg..he wants to kill the elders because of how they used itachi, to elimante the whole clan who would have tooken over complete if they were left alive. this is why the order the elimation of the enitre clan. why are people acting like they dont read the manga or watch it at all? konaha is or was corrupt, **** konaha. gave away his fighting style? wtf? he gain all his power today by blood sweat and tears stop bashing sasuke because he was born with powers to be unlocked while naruto was given everything, helped in just about all of his major fights, and much more. sasuke has solo danzo, solo orochimaruo, solo naurot the first fight, solo took on the raikage, and others. do you see naruto takeing on anyone by his self w/o help? no

Well u mean to say just bcos Danzo was overprudant and ambitious, (also U would remember that Uchiha was planning a coup{when u plan to attack u better be prepared to be attacked}, so were not too innocent PLUS it was two UCHIHA that did the job) whole of konoha must die? Ramen guy used fed poisoned ramen to uchiha? Normal Lil children gave uchiha children exploding lolipops? Right? No one would deny sasuke's vengense against Danzo, the elders and the root, but the whole village? Including children , old ppl, babies all deserves to die?
Also ur TOTALLY BIASED naruto was given evreything? yes he was given kurama bcos he happened to be kushina's son just as sasuke happened to be a uchiha and so had sharingan. Did u forget how ppl used to hate naruto out of no reason? Even the teachers used to ignore naruto (so how cld he learn i ask?) Naruto had to work his a$$ off to learn everything. Plus u think handling kurama is easy? First of all u need strong chakra for that, even after that kurama would be always trying break free or take control. (imagine why there were only three perfect jinkchuriki) I dont ever remember sharingan trying to pop out of sasuke's skull. Can u say naruto could use kurama's full power from the begining? No, it actually hindered his chakra control, where as sharingan helped sasuke learn fast. Naruto worked every bit hard as sasuke did.
PLUS, if u note sasuke only soloed danzo and won; orochimaru was sick, itachi not really fighting, raikage would have killed him (wld have died or lost a leg himself), naruto was not up to his level (only recently he became his equal), he would have died in deidara's suicide finale if it wasnt for manda ,lee once kicked his a$$, He ran away from Gaara.... etc

 

[Sonin]

sasuke was given itachi's eyes because he had no choice, because he was going blind from useing susanno to match and all of "his" powers. he did just like madara and took his dead brother eyes that tobi edged him to do. read the manga sasuke didnt want itachi's eyes AT ALL UNTIL HE HAD NO CHOICE WHEN HE WAS GOING BLIND JUST LIKE MADARA. SO troll all you want kids everyone in the f'in manga was "given" powers some way or another so to single out someone who is going blind and has no choice is sad and reflects the hate and fanboys. sasuke has solo just about all his battles that matter and has been in more life or death matters than naruto every will. GET OVER YOURSELFS KIDS. im calling you kids because you people act like ****ing kids by the way your bascially saying no im right with no facts and your wrong with facts. bottom line you can still be wrong and say sasuke was handed itachi's eyes but thats all he was handed and the only power he gained was amater. naruto has been handed things all thruout shippuden helped on major fights, saved by kakshi and others many times. who saved sasuke when he fought deidra, danzo,. was he helped and told weakness when he fought rakiage? the closes man up there with mintao naruto father?


bottom line sasuke is better and more skilled than naruto because he wasnt given shit all his life. make sure you read my post and understand it or i wont reply because all you people say is that sasuek was given everything while naruto trained for it. sasuke trained just as long as naruto mabye even longer and more intense dealing with tobi, and orochimaru and other

Sasuke has been healed by Kirin 3 times almost near death, Saved by tobi from onoki, saved by juggo. He was handed just as much. Cursed seal. Amer, ems. We are kids? You are cussing people out over the internet LOL:flaw: i have to go to work like an adult you have fun with your overly defensive views. I said they were both handed a fair share.. You need to learn to read.

 

[Anorien16]

i dont think that way i just like him because he is the last surviveing uchiha and a prospect. there is a different between someone who's fav character is sasuke and a sasuke fanboy. sasuke fanboys troll and say he can beat anyone, i on the other hand releaze that he has a ways to go before he can be as strong and wise as madara but i think { i know} in his current state he can beat naruto without any help, anyone from konaha expect mabye tsuanade. based of that fact that he can spam moves and use susanno plus he would murder naurto with genjutsu but if that didnt work, amater all day, susanno arrows all day. ems all day. if he came in strong at first im sure he could beat naruto but naruto is the main char so this wont happen because the creator probably wont alive the main guy to be killed by the better guy...we have seen this timeless times that naruto has defeated people he shouldnt have. we all know naruto would be irrevalent have he not been helped all the way and not been the main char

U think amaterasu, susano etc dont take chakra? (in fact susano takes life force and cause cellular level pain) Plus naruto can flash move now and can dodge all those attacks. Also genjutsu dont work on perfect jinkchuriki's and kurama now likes naruto and can release genjutsu for naruto like hachibi did for bee. In this respect the fight will depend on who will run out of chakra first, and so sasuke fans will start complaining kurama is an external source and start bashing naruto like sore losers.

 

[Anorien16]

Sasuke has been healed by Kirin 3 times almost near death, Saved by tobi from onoki, saved by juggo. He was handed just as much. Cursed seal. Amer, ems. We are kids? You are cussing people out over the internet LOL:flaw: i have to go to work like an adult you have fun with your overly defensive views. I said they were both handed a fair share.. You need to learn to read.

Also i would like to add that u shld remember sasuke only soloed danzo and won; orochimaru was sick, itachi not really fighting, raikage would have killed him (wld have died or lost a leg himself), naruto was not up to his level (only recently he became his equal), he would have died in deidara's suicide finale if it wasnt for manda ,lee once kicked his a$$, He ran away from Gaara and naruto saved both him and sakura .... etc
Also itachi quite didnt want sasuke to use his eyes. remember the shisui crow business? Itachi planned that if sasuke was found using itachi's eyes he would seal sasuke in a permanent genjutsu. doesnt that show itachi didnt want sasuke to use his eyes that much?

 

[csouvik41]

omg..he wants to kill the elders because of how they used itachi, to elimante the whole clan who would have tooken over complete if they were left alive. this is why the order the elimation of the enitre clan. why are people acting like they dont read the manga or watch it at all? konaha is or was corrupt, **** konaha. gave away his fighting style? wtf? he gain all his power today by blood sweat and tears stop bashing sasuke because he was born with powers to be unlocked while naruto was given everything, helped in just about all of his major fights, and much more. sasuke has solo danzo, solo orochimaruo, solo naurot the first fight, solo took on the raikage, and others. do you see naruto takeing on anyone by his self w/o help? no

u shud reread my post.... jumping into conclusion without reading the post... i said i understand his will to kill the elders but what i dont get is his will to destroy the whole konaha..... i guess u were so exicited to reply that u didn't even bother to read the whole post...

 

[AnimeIsPerfection]

Yes, I totally agree. I mean, I can understand why Sasuke feels the need for so much revenge but he's doing it in the wrong way. Seeing him and Naruto work together would be a true blessing...to us all (i'm kinda tired of the senju/uzumaki fans and Uchiha fans fighting so much)

 

[Redd]

oh yeah he is just a Puppet which Has No Chakra Thank You sir For Explaining it :flaw:

No he just means Naruto has shit chakra control.

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Base Sasuke no sharingan < Base Naruto no demon.

 

[Anorien16]

lol i give up. sasuke wants the elders and probably all of konaha dead but i did not say this i said ELDERS". because they were the ones who ordered it. and ur saying tobi helped itachi? so this means someone knows who he is in konaha if they order tobi to do it.. but this is according to you. sasuke solo danzo, diedra, and orochimaru caused his own defeat allowing sasuke to know his weakness, raikage. sasuke didnt died at all or call upon the 9 nine tails to save him

Personally i would kill the elders myself and most of the roots if i have heart. Also if u really read the manga u would know tobi said he helped bcos the uchiha clan betrayed madara (whom he was impersonating)(read:

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for proof)

Last part was not clear to me please clarify....
I said:
1. Sasuke did defeat danzo no argument.
2. Sasuke would have died in his fight alongwith Deidara if it wasnt for manda (even then he was injured)
3. Raikage snapped susano ribkages before, his kick wld have gone through amaterasu, susano and killed sasuke.
4. If above is not true, onoki would have vaporised sasuke if it wasnt for tobi.
5. Zetsu recued sasuke from mei, she was melting susano.
6. Sasuke got saved multiple times in his fight with bee.
7. Itachi wasnt really fighting, if he was he could have fried sasuke's brain instead of poking him in his head and saying sorry. (b4 dying himself)
8.Orochimaru was sick (if u dont call always lying on bed and taking meds being sick, manga readers shld know how weak orochimarugets b4 soul transfering)

U cant say Sasuke did everything alone.

 

[Anorien16]

DUDE FOR YOU IM TYPEING IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE YOU DONT READ WELL. I DIDNT SAY NOTHIN ABOUT CHAKRA, YEAH NARUTO CAN FLASH MOVE BUT HE IS NO MINATO OR EVEN EXP IN DOING THIS FLASH STEP NOTICE HE MISSED KISAME SOMEONE SLOWER THAN SASUKE. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE FLASH STEP DOESNT MEAN UR AN EXPERT OR EVEN NO WHAT UR DOING. BOTTOM LINE ALL SASUKE HAS TO DO IS SPAM AMATERASU, SINCE I DONT THINK NARUTO HAS EVEN SEEN IT[ MABYE HE HAS} BUT YEAH IF THAT DOESNT WORK SUSANOO ALL DAY PLUS, BLAZE RELEASE. so naruto can attack thur the undieing burnning flames and live? go ahead and troll some more tell me how amaterasu and blaze release can be defeat by a flash step:flaw:

I WILL GO CAPS COS U GOT NO BRAINS AND NO EYES, NARUTO IS NOT MINATO AND HE CANT DO FTG, BUT HE CAN MOVE SUPER FAST, PLUS NARUTO MISSED? PLS CHECK THE FOLLOWING PAGES, DOES IT LOOK LIKE HE MISSED OR IS IT KISAME MERELY ACTING:

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HE WAS FIRST TIME USING KM AND HE FLASH MOVED HIT KISAME, AND NOW HE HAS GOT EXPERIANCE USING KM.
ALSO EVEN IF U DONT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CHAKRA OR FORGET ABOUT IT ,IT WILL STILL MATTER COS UR ACTING AS TOUGH SASUKE NEEDS NO CHAKRA AS SUSANO (SUSANO ALSO EATS LIFE FORCE READ:

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) AND AMATERASU TAKES NO TOLL ON SASUKE. ALSO DID I MENTION NARUTO WLD 'ATTACK' USING FLASH STEP, PLS REREAD IT WILL SAY DODGE,AS FOR BLAZE RELEASE SASUKE CAN KEEP HIM SELF COVERED IN PRETTILY SHAPED AMATERASU ASLONG AS HE LIKES, IT WILL ONLY EAT HIS CHAKRA AND NARUTO WILL RUN ABOUT UNTILL SASUKE RUNS OUT OF JUICE OR LOWERS HIS DEFENCE.

 

[AnimeIsPerfection]

yeah...i could wish all I want for us to stop fighting but even if Kishi makes them allies hardly anyone's going to accept it...which is sad and just proves how twisted our world has become.

 

[Anorien16]

as long as naruto fans troll on sasuke this will never be. i may be the only sasuke fan on nb that doesnt start these naruto sm vs sasuke stripped of all his birth powers thread. naruto fans piss me off because they no he is the main character so they go overboard.

Also try sasuke fans from stripping naruto from his kurama abilities, cos as just as sasuke got sharingan being born a uchiha, naruto got kurama being born as kushina's son. If u dont give naruto his kurama he wld be a normal person (sasuke wld be normal too without sharingan) and sasuke wld have a unfair advantage. Stop being unfair and others will stop too, at least they cant blame u for being biased then.

 

[Anorien16]

the kisame part is good and well i wasnt sure on that all i know its that the nine tails didnt kill him when he hit him like u said. but anyways lol you still didnt come up with an answer on how naruto can counter amaterasu, or his blaze relase whcih almosted killed the raikage plz reply or you admit naruto will die

I just spelled out how he will counter:
1. Sasuke projects amaterasu ----> Naruto flash step or replacement jutsu (yes it works check nagato vs itachi fight) ----> no hit no kill but sasuke loses chakra
2. Sasuke blaze releases and coveres himself in amaterasu -----> naruto keep distance and continuously dodge -----> sasuke loses more ckakra to keep and control the flames, and may suffocate due to heat if susano is not active (lv.1 wld do) but cant attack more with out higher susano or more amaterasu.... which all translates to more chakra loss.
3. Sasuke will always have to keep susano up or naruto's rasensuriken or a clone with gaint rasengan may hit him hard. He can always move about but he cant use susano that way as it is slow without legs and amaterasu needs a lot of concentration to focus it.

 

[AnimeIsPerfection]

sasuke is older by a month or so, i believe.

 

[kevenc]

stop fighting guys, Naruto can use all the power he has, it's fair.

Brace yourselves, Troll Macho is comming.