When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

[Anorien16]

Edit: Hope the wall of text doesn't encourage the less patient to read, as those are generally the ones who need most to read the words I wrote below.

How the heck is he supposed to prove with a scan a negative?

That would be the same if I tell you to provide me with the manga scan where it's written the Rammen guy is not Superman, and that Guy is not Hulk's son.

I agree that complaining about Kurama or EMS is dumb, as they do have them so it's pointless to argue it's fairness. But you are getting to a ridiculous point.

For future reference remember that whenever you find yourself writing poor arguments or without arguments at all to answer a post, refrain from posting until you have something smart to say. Don't drag your position down just because you are on a rush to answer.

You started off with a strong argument and when you faced a good "opponent" you watered down your point. He was successful to focus the discussion on a minor point that had little to nothing to do with your initial point and you slipped right into his trap.

When you start off with a good point, that you are fairly sure about, and suddenly realize that you are loosing on a battle of words, read back. Usually it means that you are falling into this problem. Trying to to enforce the weakest part of your original post (that might be wrong) will eventually lead the readers to perceive your whole point as weak. So the best strategy is to always read each post in contest and never forget your strong points and your original general idea.

I'm not writing this to ridicule you, actually I'm taking the time to write this analysis in order to teach you to better argue and be able to make your best contribute to the community. Sight, I could have just have sent this as a personal message but as I've seen so many before you falling to this scenario when faced with strong and intelligent opponents like Blaze, Totsuka, TheEye and others, I've decided to make this as a post so that others might take the same advise.

Cheers and keep thinking and posting!

Salute and rep+

 

[xxSAGExx]

oh my base sasuke is sasuke with 3 tomoe sharingan, take that away he can't even use chidori, with that sasuke can only do some taijutsu and some fire attack :sy:

and No, Naruto can't throw rasen shuriken in base mode. so he can't use it

The only reason he can throw it in the first place is because of his manipulation of natural energy in SM. Recall Fukasaku's explanation about how senjutsu increases the range of your attacks? That's basically what Naruto does when he throws the FRS; he uses natural energy to propel the attack away from his hand and towards his enemy.

This is why his Kawazu Kumite training was needed before he successfully completed the attack during his senjutsu training. He learned how to attack things from a distance during this training.

Actually you're wrong, when Naruto used rasen shuriken against Kakuza it was only at 50% complete. Naruto used Sage mode to train and master the rasen shuriken. Naruto can throw it in KM so he doesn't use natural chakra for it. And Pa toad was talking about frog kata which makes use of the Sage chakra that surrounds the body and extents to hit the target.

 

[Anorien16]

well uchiha just stay back and attack like *****s so ya it is fair and if naruto knew about the uzumaki hustory he would be using sealing justus and just seal sauske away

Utter nonsense, naruto dont know sealing techniques. Plus naruto too can stay back spam long rangers....... or send ma and pa to do it. So it will be in a way draw out.

 

[lord sauke]

This is so funny because you seriously think that.sasuke is stronger than naruto.when they fight and when sasuke win everybody that think naruto is stronger will be Luke sasuke only won because he is kishi favorite character or sasuke is emo or even plot no justu when we all know the only person that is protected by plot no justu is naruto in every single fight

 

[KILLSASUKEHATERS]

Im Tired of blogs like this hating on sasuke just shut up sasuke gonna get anew power before he fights naruto but ill wait to see who stronger when there fighting at the final valley

 

[No Fanboys]

Everybody has their secret whatever. Let Naruto have his.

 

[Jukain]

I agree wouldnt have said it any better myself

 

[Styles]

Facts about sasuke base being greater? From u? pls list them like me please, i will like to go through them again, i think u said the following: naruto said he cant beat sasuke, sasuke wld kill him if he tried to go SM, why SM is included in base mode etc and none of them proofs. Also didnt 4 hrs of discussion have no effect on u dumba$$? naruto cant spam that much clones in base mode, ma and pa can fuse with him without kurama and provide senjutusu chakra like they did to jirya (i repeated this a ton of times), i said naruto 'too' had an disadvantage, not naruto only had a disadvantage (are u blind or have no grammertical sense?) plus sasuke wasnt blind his vision was blurry see:

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Also naruto is not that dumb but i wont discuss it. But what i want to discuss how was u able to conclude that SM gives naruto only a 4+ boost in his basic stats? what gave u d scale and measurements? Also karin did give intel about how danzo's sharingan and his chakra level works, wouldnt u call that a lil bit help? cos it proved monumentail in danzo's defeat. Also u didny reply to the fact that lee managed to defeat sasuke easily b4 chunin exam began even tough he had only taijutsu stats.

ALSO dont forget to list the facts again......

if your talking about the sasuke and danzou fight karin was saying those things in her head while analyzing the time length of izanagi and when she was gonna tell sasuke he interrupted her so sasuke had no help but if you see it that way danzou is the one that had all the help with 10 sharingans and shisui's eye and the 1st hokage cells to boost his chakra and stamina

 

[BaZiNgA]

i actually think you r8 accept the last part if naruto had all power of ninwe taiks so he would never contreol it....

 

[madali]

No one called him a puppet so fail on your part. I'll revise my statement: He has little base chakra. And he has Kurama so his base chakra pales in comparison to Sasuke's. Throughout the whole series Sasuke increases his chakra by himself while naruto just draws on more and more of kurama's chakra. Don't get mad at me because your a fanboy that cant realize the truth.

What naruto has lil base chakra gtfo here.u are crazy he is an uzumaki meaning high chakra and stamina from the get go. cant be a jin without it.

 

[madali]

sasuke with sharingan vs sm naruto

1. sasuke performs hand seals faster
2. sasuke has more techniques.
3. sasuke is faster and accurate.
4. sasuke uses lighting/fire/blaze elements
5. sasuke uses the thunder dragon jutsu lol { itachi vs sasuke}

this is how the fight would go

sasuke charges naruto and his clones, sasuke makes clones of his own. there faster than narutos clones, boom all the clones gone, naruto is performing his wind rasengen sasuke quickly scans naruto's hand seals and reads the technique. naruto waits for sasuke to get close and throw his wind ras, misses sasuke but injurys his body. naruto then shows up behind sasuke, which surprise him, boom giant rasengen, naruto thinks he has sasuke but discovers it was orochimaru's body shedding technique. naruto is almost out of sage mode and quickly charges sasuke but notices the sky has turn pitch dark, see's sasuke on top of a cliff performing hand seals, naruto noitces he only has a few secs left in sage mode, and fires up another wind rasgen, throws it at ,sasuke sees this and fires off 2 fire release:great dragon fire technique, naruto just barely doges the last one as he tried to counter sasuke, after he messed up sasuke technique. naruto notices thunder roaring from above....sasuke says gameover naruto tries to pull together the last of his charka to counter KIRIN. but fails sasuke takes naruto's body out the the final valley and throws his body in the water THE END.

SM naruto is stronger and faster than sasuke dude in any form. come on now

 

[Stark]

Trollololol, hear that? The fanboys are coming.

 

[SoulHunt3r]

if naruto would have got the full power of kiubi he would be dead because his body wouldn`t supress so much chakra

 

[Pravin5]

Databook says there not equal in taijutsu and ninjutsu. Without Kurama Naruto wont be able to use tons of clones like he does now. It takes him like 4 clones just to do a rasenshuriken. Without Kurama he doesn't have enough chakra to maintain all those clones to prepare a rasenshuriken.

Databook also says Amaterasu is as hot as Sun But Thats Wrong.
Databook also says Hiruzen is Strongest Hokage But Thats Wrong too.

& Btw without Kurama Naruto already used 2 Rasenshuriken. One missed & One Killed 2 Hearts of Kakazu so watch anime First then say He cant do it. yes it has Risks but he can on the other hand Without Sharingan sasuke Cant even do Perfect CHidori WHile NAruto can DO Rasengan & Odama Rasengan :shrug:

 

[Pravin5]

^ what he said. unorthodox #1 sasuke fanboy

And to everyone who says Naruto base chakra is low, you're completely retarded.

^ This

 

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Right. Lmao

^ This Hahaha You owned him sir

 

[Shiny Scrafty]

Of course it's fair.
Sasuke's been given ALL his shit. Ex. EVERYTHING THAT HE SPAMS NOW
Naruto has WORKED for all his shit. Ex. Everything that he uses [Like a BAWSE]

I'm tired of the, "Sasuke, you are now as strong as Naruto." crap.
If Naruto had Sharingan/Rennigan, he would be God in the Naruto world.
If Sasuke had Kurama, he'd still be Naruto's bitch.
(LOL jk.)
But Naruto would still be stronger.
Know why? Because he WORKS for all his shit.
Sasuke gets stuff for free and acts like he Mastered it.

 

[Pravin5]

No u provided reasoning why naruto cant use sage mode, will be stabbed by chidori, etc all of which i countered.U r yet to provide reason why it wouldnt be a 50-50 to 60-40 (favouring naruto) fight.

AND i do know they r examples, cant some guys laugh at a joke?

YEs HAhaha True Man Plus without Sharingan Sasuke cant even use Chidori all he can use is G@y-no Jutsu :rofl:

 

[Pravin5]

Of course it's fair.
Sasuke's been given ALL his shit. Ex. EVERYTHING THAT HE SPAMS NOW
Naruto has WORKED for all his shit. Ex. Everything that he uses [Like a BAWSE]

I'm tired of the, "Sasuke, you are now as strong as Naruto." crap.
If Naruto had Sharingan/Rennigan, he would be God in the Naruto world.
If Sasuke had Kurama, he'd still be Naruto's bitch.
(LOL jk.)
But Naruto would still be stronger.
Know why? Because he WORKS for all his shit.
Sasuke gets stuff for free and acts like he Mastered it.

^ Agree

 

[Pravin5]

sasuke's fire tech can only gain the advantage when the tech are on the same level and naruto's tech is s-rank all sasuke's fire are not higher than b-rank so forget that

^ This