When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

[Sephy100]

well describe to me how sasuke gona kill naruto while he tries to enter sage mode?
Ur logic: Naruto standing--> Sasuke stab and kill --->Naruto still standing and die

My point: Sasuke attack ----> naruto dodges -- may drop a few smoke bomb--> summon ma nad pa ----> enter sage mode (Proof? see jirya's last fight)


AND yes i read all of ur posts....

You're right that I was talking about sage mode because that's the only argument anyone ever gives if you take away kurama. And I never meant that Naruto would be standing when Sasuke attacks. I meant they would both be fighting and that Sasuke wouldn't let up because that's just how he's become unless Naruto uses the infamous talk-no-jutsu to stop him. Naruto is good at deceiving people so he may be able to deceive Sasuke. My thing is that if we're talking about base then sage mode shouldnt be included and if it is then MS should be allowed too since sasuke unlocked it.

 

[YourMom]

Really? So you went back and looked at each and every post I've made?? And the thread is essentially Naruto vs Sasuke so of course someone is going to be on Sasuke's side which in this case happens to be me. Also, why would anyone not try to kill Naruto if he's trying to go into sage mode?And every point you've made is for Naruto so should I call you a fanboy for being on Naruto's side and not Sasuke's? Like I said I'm not a fanboy. I know Sasuke would be dead were it not for plot no jutsu but the same could be said for Naruto. I just feel like defending Sasuke.

No I didn't go back and read all your posts you were defending Sasuke from the start :/. You're on sasukes side because you're a Sasuke fanboy lmao. Im not on eithers side, the points you made about naruto were false so I was correcting you. I stated earlier how the uchihas could control and/or supress the tailed beast inside of the Jinjuriki. I'm on the side of logic.

 

[warlee]

If not for itachi's eye sasuke would be blind now and even when you remove both their main power naruto would still be the strongest by far since he has sage mode and you can't take away sage mode he learnt it he was not given to him. Sm naruto>>>>>>>>>>sasuke w/o sharingan

 

[Sephy100]

No I didn't go back and read all your posts you were defending Sasuke from the start :/. You're on sasukes side because you're a Sasuke fanboy lmao. Im not on eithers side, the points you made about naruto were false so I was correcting you. I stated earlier how the uchihas could control and/or supress the tailed beast inside of the Jinjuriki. I'm on the side of logic.

lmao if you still believe I'm a fanboy then go ahead I won't stop you. And how does the uchihas controlling or suppressing the tailed beasts have anything to do with this thread if we're not including kurama? :shrug:

 

[warlee]

No I didn't go back and read all your posts you were defending Sasuke from the start :/. You're on sasukes side because you're a Sasuke fanboy lmao. Im not on eithers side, the points you made about naruto were false so I was correcting you. I stated earlier how the uchihas could control and/or supress the tailed beast inside of the Jinjuriki. I'm on the side of logic.

naruto was already resistin kyuubi chakra and naruto was very weak that time so i don't think we can count that and even then it's not possible w/ a perfect host < bee vs sasuke>

 

[Anorien16]

You're right that I was talking about sage mode because that's the only argument anyone ever gives if you take away kurama. And I never meant that Naruto would be standing when Sasuke attacks. I meant they would both be fighting and that Sasuke wouldn't let up because that's just how he's become unless Naruto uses the infamous talk-no-jutsu to stop him. Naruto is good at deceiving people so he may be able to deceive Sasuke. My thing is that if we're talking about base then sage mode shouldnt be included and if it is then MS should be allowed too since sasuke unlocked it.

LOL.... u change ur tone now .... base doesnt mean sage mode .... next what rasensuriken is not for base?...... we were talking about naruto without kurama and sasuke without sharingan...... and SM counts as it is learnt not given..... plus naruto deciveing someone? whom did he decive i ask? Sasuke too uses revenge no jutsu, i-m-a-uchiha no jutsu, betraying-friends no jutsu, cocky no jutsu, i-dont care no jutsu etc but they are out of the question. Also if u take away kurama u cant expect naruto to use secret finger jutsu can u? he wld use his greatest asset in his arsenal and that happens to be SM.

 

[YourMom]

That's incorrect:flaw:

Itachi just triggered Amaterasu to be used when Sasuke sees Tobi face.
Here is a link for more information:

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Amaterasu is one of the techniques of the Mangekyo Sharingan.

"When Sasuke first used it unintentionally on Tobi, his right eye took Itachi's Mangekyō Sharingan form." this is what I'm referring to. Bottom line, Sasuke was given powers. No way around that.

 

[Mishima]

Ur nuts, u didnt read the link, it clearly states naruto can use two rasensuriken and few rasengans to run out of sage mode and have to re enter again and can use three rasensuriken at least on his own chakra. PLUS ma and pa fuses with naruto only to provide him with unlimited SM time.... they didnt mention a time limit ever when they fused with jirya in their last fight. Pls read the link i provided.

I did read the link. Just because Naruto has Sage mode does not give him unlimited chakra.
There is a limit with Sage mode as seen here:

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[YourMom]

naruto was already resistin kyuubi chakra and naruto was very weak that time so i don't think we can count that and even then it's not possible w/ a perfect host < bee vs sasuke>

He resisted it, but it still was seeping out, right? Sasuke suppressed it back into its "cage". The fact of the matter is that it happened and who's to say it can't happen again?

 

[Anorien16]

I did read the link. Just because Naruto has Sage mode does not give him unlimited chakra.
There is a limit with Sage mode as seen here:

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Then i must ask u to reread and this time understand. With ma and pa fused with him he would have unlimited time (not chakra) for sage mode (refer jirya last battle)..... and the pic u reffered are of the time when ma and pa could not fuse with naruto.

 

[YourMom]

I did read the link. Just because Naruto has Sage mode does not give him unlimited chakra.
There is a limit with Sage mode as seen here:

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I do believe he simply used more than he stored.

 

[Sephy100]

LOL.... u change ur tone now .... base doesnt mean sage mode .... next what rasensuriken is not for base?...... we were talking about naruto without kurama and sasuke without sharingan...... and SM counts as it is learnt not given..... plus naruto deciveing someone? whom did he decive i ask? Sasuke too uses revenge no jutsu, i-m-a-uchiha no jutsu, betraying-friends no jutsu, cocky no jutsu, i-dont care no jutsu etc but they are out of the question. Also if u take away kurama u cant expect naruto to use secret finger jutsu can u? he wld use his greatest asset in his arsenal and that happens to be SM.

you aren't making any sense how can sage mode count but not MS since Sasuke unlocked it by himself. And you put up alot of the naruto wiki so go check the wiki for all the opponents he's deceived. And you can check any of my posts because I've stated that rasenshuriken is in his base and that it takes away 1/3 of his power meaning he has only three chances to use it.

 

[Anorien16]

"When Sasuke first used it unintentionally on Tobi, his right eye took Itachi's Mangekyō Sharingan form." this is what I'm referring to. Bottom line, Sasuke was given powers. No way around that.

Ur wrong there friend, remember Itachi poking sasuke before dying? He sealed part of his power to fry Tobi when sasuke would see him. Since it was itachi's power it should have taken itachi's form.

 

[warlee]

He resisted it, but it still was seeping out, right? Sasuke suppressed it back into its "cage". The fact of the matter is that it happened and who's to say it can't happen again?

so you will neglect the condition in which it happen? Anyway it doesn't matter now when naruto is in sync w/ the kyuubi and no uchiha have any feat of suppresing a perfect host

 

[Hashirama Senju 48]

Sorry but Naruto can Use Rasenshuriken in Base Mode if its DO or Die Fight Naruto can atleast use 2 Rasenshuriken to kill Sasuke Then He can recover From the Damage

You forgot that in base mode he cannot throw the shuriken. Its not easy for him to score a hit with rasen shuriken in base mode. Oh and you forgot that Sasuke's elemental affinity is Fire, he gets advantage over Naruto's wind nature.

 

[YourMom]

Ur wrong there friend, remember Itachi poking sasuke before dying? He sealed part of his power to fry Tobi when sasuke would see him. Since it was itachi's power it should have taken itachi's form.

This is what narutopedia says. So I believe them over you lol

 

[Anorien16]

you aren't making any sense how can sage mode count but not MS since Sasuke unlocked it by himself. And you put up alot of the naruto wiki so go check the wiki for all the opponents he's deceived. And you can check any of my posts because I've stated that rasenshuriken is in his base and that it takes away 1/3 of his power meaning he has only three chances to use it.

Well, u r turning about the point now u r losing..... we r excluding inheirited sharingan and obtained external kurama ..... care to explain how can sasuke unlock MS without sharingan? Also is rasenshuriken naruto's only attack? And is naruto destained to miss with rasensuriken? its a one shot kill and thus a finisher. Sasuke's chidori once took 1/3 of his chakra(exam time), did it prevent him from beating gaara in third round? Also i dont understant how naruto decived? he didnt talk to his opponents to a false sence of security and attacked under their guard? he talked with them then continued fighting and u call that deciving? Now serously ur really a sore loser ....

 

[YourMom]

so you will neglect the condition in which it happen? Anyway it doesn't matter now when naruto is in sync w/ the kyuubi and no uchiha have any feat of suppresing a perfect host

Yet. I'm sure there are some hand seals that can do that, no? I'm just giving examples or scenarios to how Sasuke fans can stop crying about how naruto has Kurama sealed inside of him.

 

[Anorien16]

This is what narutopedia says. So I believe them over you lol

Thats the funny part, sasuke dont have tsukiomy.... thats why i have my doubts what sealing his powers in sasuke meant. It can also mean sealing part of his powers to activate only on certain conditions as a failsafe.

 

[warlee]

you aren't making any sense how can sage mode count but not MS since Sasuke unlocked it by himself. And you put up alot of the naruto wiki so go check the wiki for all the opponents he's deceived. And you can check any of my posts because I've stated that rasenshuriken is in his base and that it takes away 1/3 of his power meaning he has only three chances to use it.

it seems you didn't read the opening post, the opening post says sharingan was given to the uchiha by the sage
and why are ppl comparing when naruto first got sage mode to now? He had improved even to the point he can enter it almost instantly and the time should have extend to like 15 - 20mins since he has been using it countinously and he praticed it after then