When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

So after Reading the Who Thread DO you Think Naruto using Kurama is Fair ???

  • YES it is Fair

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  • NO Its Not Fair .

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Sephy100

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I'm not a sasuke fanboy by no means but I'm just trying to shed some light on what is an obviously biased thread board that the op made.
 

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If he supposedly has access to all this unlimited nature chakra then why can't he stay in sage mode indefinitely? Also he mastered Sage mode by himself with his clones meaning his clones gather energy and since they are part of him he doesn't have to balance it since they've already balanced it for him. If he has ma and pa then that means he has to balance both of their sage chakra as well as his in order to achieve sage mode. You really think Sasuke would give him the time of day to do that given the fact that we know sauke charges head on for everything? Maybe you're right that Naruto can still access true sage mode with ma and pa but you would have to prove without a reasonable doubt that he could. Rasenshuriken takes up half of sage mode chakra which means it takes up 2/3 regular chakra since we've seen the toll it takes on his body just throwing one.

He doesn't store up enough chakra to sustain sage mode obviously. I do believe his clones are stored on mount Moyobuko or however you spell it.
 

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I'm not a sasuke fanboy by no means but I'm just trying to shed some light on what is an obviously biased thread board that the op made.

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Right. Lmao
 

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Right. Lmao

Wait so because my favorite character is Sasuke that means that I'm a fanboy. That's the dumbest logic I've ever heard. My favorite game is Dragon Age: Origins but does that mean I'm in love with it. I love steak does that mean I'm going to come to it's aid when people make an argument for how its bad for you medically? I like to have *** does that mean I'm a fan of *** everyday? No. You made yourself look like an idiot. Learn the definition of fanboy and then come talk.
 

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If he supposedly has access to all this unlimited nature chakra then why can't he stay in sage mode indefinitely? Also he mastered Sage mode by himself with his clones meaning his clones gather energy and since they are part of him he doesn't have to balance it since they've already balanced it for him. If he has ma and pa then that means he has to balance both of their sage chakra as well as his in order to achieve sage mode. You really think Sasuke would give him the time of day to do that given the fact that we know sauke charges head on for everything? Maybe you're right that Naruto can still access true sage mode with ma and pa but you would have to prove without a reasonable doubt that he could. Rasenshuriken takes up half of sage mode chakra which means it takes up 1/3 regular chakra since we've seen the toll it takes on his body just throwing one.

Did u see the jirya fight with pain? jirya didnt take much time against a much more difficult foe, plus ur pretending as tough fusing with naruto is hell difficult for ma and pa, surprise for u it wont be difficult if kurama is not there or friendly. Also sage chakra blanceing is easy enough when u have learnt it (4 naruto), the difficult part is to gather nature energy which needs one to be still, which is ma and pa's job. Plus do think naruto will always spam rasensuriken? There r other rasengans plus naruto can throw raw fuuton at enimies, see his entance in kakazu battle he merges his wind chakra with yamato's water chakra.
 

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Wait so because my favorite character is Sasuke that means that I'm a fanboy. That's the dumbest logic I've ever heard. My favorite game is Dragon Age: Origins but does that mean I'm in love with it. I love steak does that mean I'm going to come to it's aid when people make an argument for how its bad for you medically? I like to have *** does that mean I'm a fan of *** everyday? No. You made yourself look like an idiot. Learn the definition of fanboy and then come talk.

Your favorite character is Sasuke. Enough said.
 

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Fair enough and without EMS being given to him or the power from itachis MS Sasuke would be a normal ninja
No. Not a normal ninja. A ninja from the Uchiha clan. And I don't what you mean when you say "the power from itachi's MS" because Itachi didnt give Sasuke his powers. Sasuke awakened the MS by experiencing the pain of losing some close to him. For example, Itachi.
Ur not considering SM and plus naruto do have a lot of chakra of his own, pls read earlier points. Plus it takes only 2 clones to do rasensuriken. Also note on disappearing clones add experience and chakra back to their user.

I think you forgot. Naruto needs clones to maintain Sage Mode.
You tell me how much clones you see here.
 

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Wait so because my favorite character is Sasuke that means that I'm a fanboy. That's the dumbest logic I've ever heard. My favorite game is Dragon Age: Origins but does that mean I'm in love with it. I love steak does that mean I'm going to come to it's aid when people make an argument for how its bad for you medically? I like to have *** does that mean I'm a fan of *** everyday? No. You made yourself look like an idiot. Learn the definition of fanboy and then come talk.
My points:
1.When ur a fanboy u wont like ur hero to be defeated.
2.When u like dragon age, u will like to play it more often.
3.when u like steak, u will try to get it to eat often.
4.If u liked to have ***, even if u wished u cant have it everyday.
Those r normal human reactions, none of us made those accusations u made above, which makes me suspicios. :eek:
 

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Your favorite character is Sasuke. Enough said.

lol that's the best you can come up with. I'd hate to see how you debate when someone talk about your dear kakashi.xd
 

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My points:
1.When ur a fanboy u wont like ur hero to be defeated.
2.When u like dragon age, u will like to play it more often.
3.when u like steak, u will try to get it to eat often.
4.If u liked to have ***, even if u wished u cant have it everyday.
Those r normal human reactions, none of us made those accusations u made above, which makes me suspicios. :eek:

No one made those accusations because theyre called examples -__-. Multiple times I've said that Naruto can bust Sasuke. I just provided reasoning as to why base sasuke is better than base naruto.
 

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No. Not a normal ninja. A ninja from the Uchiha clan. And I don't what you mean when you say "the power from itachi's MS" because Itachi didnt give Sasuke his powers. Sasuke awakened the MS by experiencing the pain of losing some close to him. For example, Itachi.


I think you forgot. Naruto needs clones to maintain Sage Mode.
You tell me how much clones you see here.

Didnt u read earlier points?, i mentioned without kurama ma and pa wont have problem fusing with naruto and gather him nature energy like they did for jirya ....... and i see one real naruto and three clones, with one standing far back
Pls read u will note it takes only two clones.
 

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No. Not a normal ninja. A ninja from the Uchiha clan. And I don't what you mean when you say "the power from itachi's MS" because Itachi didnt give Sasuke his powers. Sasuke awakened the MS by experiencing the pain of losing some close to him. For example, Itachi.


I think you forgot. Naruto needs clones to maintain Sage Mode.
You tell me how much clones you see here.

Yes and itachi gave him the power of Amaterasu just like tobi gave him EMS.
 

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No one made those accusations because theyre called examples -__-. Multiple times I've said that Naruto can bust Sasuke. I just provided reasoning as to why base sasuke is better than base naruto.

No u provided reasoning why naruto cant use sage mode, will be stabbed by chidori, etc all of which i countered.U r yet to provide reason why it wouldnt be a 50-50 to 60-40 (favouring naruto) fight.

AND i do know they r examples, cant some guys laugh at a joke?
 
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No one made those accusations because theyre called examples -__-. Multiple times I've said that Naruto can bust Sasuke. I just provided reasoning as to why base sasuke is better than base naruto.

No, every point you've given is how Sasuke would beat naruto. Like you said Sasuke would kill naruto if he tried to enter sage mode.
 

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No, every point you've given is how Sasuke would beat naruto. Like you said Sasuke would kill naruto if he tried to enter sage mode.

Really? So you went back and looked at each and every post I've made?? And the thread is essentially Naruto vs Sasuke so of course someone is going to be on Sasuke's side which in this case happens to be me. Also, why would anyone not try to kill Naruto if he's trying to go into sage mode?And every point you've made is for Naruto so should I call you a fanboy for being on Naruto's side and not Sasuke's? Like I said I'm not a fanboy. I know Sasuke would be dead were it not for plot no jutsu but the same could be said for Naruto. I just feel like defending Sasuke.
 

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Really? So you went back and looked at each and every post I've made?? And the thread is essentially Naruto vs Sasuke so of course someone is going to be on Sasuke's side which in this case happens to be me. Also, why would anyone not try to kill Naruto if he's trying to go into sage mode?And every point you've made is for Naruto so should I call you a fanboy for being on Naruto's side and not Sasuke's? Like I said I'm not a fanboy. I know Sasuke would be dead were it not for plot no jutsu but the same could be said for Naruto. I just feel like defending Sasuke.

well describe to me how sasuke gona kill naruto while he tries to enter sage mode?
Ur logic: Naruto standing--> Sasuke stab and kill --->Naruto still standing and die

My point: Sasuke attack ----> naruto dodges -- may drop a few smoke bomb--> summon ma nad pa ----> enter sage mode (Proof? see jirya's last fight)


AND yes i read all of ur posts....
 
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Didnt u read earlier points?, i mentioned without kurama ma and pa wont have problem fusing with naruto and gather him nature energy like they did for jirya ....... and i see one real naruto and three clones, with one standing far back
Pls read u will note it takes only two clones.

Even if ma and pa are fusing with Naruto, his sage mode has a time limit. If Naruto used Rasenshuriken his chakra would be done. Simply because in this scenario Naruto doesn't have Kurama. 2 clones or 4 clones it doesn't matter without Kurama, Naruto doesn't have the chakra level to use a rasenshuriken and have lots of chakra left.
 

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I agree that its fair for Naruto to have Kurama and Sasuke to have sharingan but I think that if they were base (Naruto with no Kurama or high chakra or Sage Mode and Sasuke with no high chakra or sharingan or curse mark) that either they`d be equal or Sasuke would win.
 

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Even if ma and pa are fusing with Naruto, his sage mode has a time limit. If Naruto used Rasenshuriken his chakra would be done. Simply because in this scenario Naruto doesn't have Kurama. 2 clones or 4 clones it doesn't matter without Kurama, Naruto doesn't have the chakra level to use a rasenshuriken and have lots of chakra left.

Ur nuts, u didnt read the link, it clearly states naruto can use two rasensuriken and few rasengans to run out of sage mode and have to re enter again and can use three rasensuriken at least on his own chakra. PLUS ma and pa fuses with naruto only to provide him with unlimited SM time.... they didnt mention a time limit ever when they fused with jirya in their last fight. Pls read the link i provided.
 

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Yes and itachi gave him the power of Amaterasu just like tobi gave him EMS.

That's incorrect:flaw:

Itachi just triggered Amaterasu to be used when Sasuke sees Tobi face.
Here is a link for more information:

Amaterasu is one of the techniques of the Mangekyo Sharingan.
 
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