Avatar Roku vs Avatar Aang

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  • Roku

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if your comparing the age and EXP difference then sure, but remember Aang mastered all that plus learning a new form at a young age. roku was like 50 years old already when he stopped sozin the first time. in the new avatar legend of korra. Aang looked hella beast. and so many more years OF EXP under his belt???? REALLY ROKU???? no I'm still going with Aang. he completed all his training in a year???? and stopped fire load Ozai with enhanced fire bending power?????? AANG FTW!!!!!!:D:D
Roku's bending is far better than Aang's bending. Learning it faster doesn't equate to it being better. Roku trained for half his life to master all the elements and the things he's pulled off when it comes to using them are far superior to that of what Aang has pulled off. Examples would be Roku making air so cold it could dissipate lava, he could create mountain level cliffs with his earthbending, tsunamis with his waterbending, and could even bend lava due to his firebending being so strong. He even destroyed the entire avatar temple in the fire nation with his firebending. He could also hold all 4 elements simultaneously.

Also Aang needed the avatar state to beat Ozai albeit Ozai with enhanced firebending while Roku stomped Sozin with simple earthbending and airbending. IMO he'd stomp Ozai with enhanced firebending just as easily if he got serious.

ive never watched avatar but it seems cool
It's very good.
 
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Roku's bending is far better than Aang's bending. Learning it faster doesn't equate to it being better. Roku trained for half his life to master all the elements and the things he's pulled off when it comes to using them are far superior to that of what Aang has pulled off. Examples would be Roku making air so cold it could dissipate lava, he could create mountain level cliffs with his earthbending, tsunamis with his waterbending, and could even bend lava due to his firebending being so strong. He even destroyed the entire avatar temple in the fire nation with his firebending. He could also hold all 4 elements simultaneously.

Also Aang needed the avatar state to beat Ozai albeit Ozai with enhanced firebending while Roku stomped Sozin with simple earthbending and airbending. IMO he'd stomp Ozai with enhanced firebending just as easily if he got serious.


It's very good.
first of all ur saying it doesnt matter the fact that aang learned it fast. Are u crazy he learned all in a year and had considerable mastery over it. sorry but thats serious skill in a year he mastered it while roku took a long time to get through water aang learned his opposing element quite fast shows skill. Ozai would have died in the beginning but aang is a Air nomad he doesnt like killing he would have killed him by redirecting the lightning way back in the beginning but guess what he didnt so no he doesnt need avatar state.

Also if u r bringing experienced older aang he is definitely better because he has Toph who would have taught him metal bending, and she already taught him the ways the badger moles did earth bending giving him an advantage there as well and knows how to redirect lightning BIG ADVANTAGE. Experienced aang has the advantage due to his tecahers especially toph and seeing he is naturally gifted and can accomplished major feats as 13 year old kid.

Roku had all those feats u mentioned when he was in his 50's do u think aang stays like that forever as a 13 year old kid he would have better feats seeing his skill already and not to mention his advantages over ROKU which is toph's style of teaching(badger Mole), metal bending, Energy bending and add to it redirection of lightining. He wins over Roku but obviously needs experience
 
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first of all ur saying it doesnt matter the fact that aang learned it fast. Are u crazy he learned all in a year and had considerable mastery over it. sorry but thats serious skill in a year he mastered it while roku took a long time to get through water aang learned his opposing element quite fast shows skill. Ozai would have died in the beginning but aang is a Air nomad he doesnt like killing he would have killed him by redirecting the lightning way back in the beginning but guess what he didnt so no he doesnt need avatar state.
You misunderstand what I said. I simply said learning them quicker doesn't equate to being better at them. Roku trained for half his life to learn, master, and become extremely skilled at each element.


Also if u r bringing experienced older aang he is definitely better because he has Toph who would have taught him metal bending, and she already taught him the ways the badger moles did earth bending giving him an advantage there as well and knows how to redirect lightning BIG ADVANTAGE. Experienced aang has the advantage due to his tecahers especially toph and seeing he is naturally gifted and can accomplished major feats as 13 year old kid.
First of all there's no solid evidence to support Aang having metal bending, so there's no reason to bring it up. Redirecting lightning isn't that big of a deal considering rarely anybody could use it back then.

You speak as if Roku didn't have teachers of his own, which were all master level benders.

Your post is based on assumptions with no basis to it. The fact is Roku's bending skills are displayed at a much much higher level than Aang's.

Roku's bending feats:

(Using and holding all 4 elements simultaneously)

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(Using earthbending to raise a mountain level cliff)

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(Using airbending that's so cold it can dissipate lava)

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(Using waterbending to create enourmous waves and tsunamis)

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(Using firebending and lavabending to take out numerous firebenders and even take out the avatar temple)

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Aang isn't on Roku's level when it comes to bending.

As for energy bending it's useless against Roku because Aang would have to restrict Roku's movements and anything he does to try that Roku can simply undo by bending.
 
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You misunderstand what I said. I simply said learning them quicker doesn't equate to being better at them. Roku trained for half his life to learn, master, and become extremely skilled at each element.




First of all there's no solid evidence to support Aang having metal bending, so there's no reason to bring it up. Redirecting lightning isn't that big of a deal considering rarely anybody could use it back then.

You speak as if Roku didn't have teachers of his own, which were all master benders level.

Your post is based on assumptions with no basis to it. The fact is Roku's bending skills are displayed at a much much higher level than Aang's.

Roku's bending feats:

(Using and holding all 4 elements simultaneously)

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(Using earthbending to raise a mountain level cliff)

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(Using airbending that's so cold it can dissipate lava)

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(Using waterbending to create enourmous waves and tsunamis)

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(Using firebending and lavabending to take out numerous firebenders and even take out the avatar temple)

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Aang isn't on Roku's level when it comes to bending.
use common sense toph taught a whole school of metal benders do u think she wouldnt teach the Avatar later on I am talking about an experienced aang here.

there are certain things like speed that Roku lacked and dodging ability of an airbender which we didnt see but obviously its common sense to assume that he has those basic abilities same thing here with aang u really think toph would just keep that away from aang being his master but teach it to only a bunch of other kids really come on. See i dont bring up bloodbeinding because its actually unlikely that katara would teach something so vile to aang she never liked it but metal bending why the hell would toph not teach that.


Roku had teachers there is a whole episode on that not denying that at all but toph is better she created metal bending and learned from badger moles which gives her and aang a advantage in ground based fights.

Iroh created the redirection of lightning tech and its no big deal lol at that aang would have seriously injured and taken down ozai with that tech. Zuko also took out an experienced bender like ozai with that tech its very useful.

See ur making the assumption aang doesnt improve most avatars reach a high state of bending ability in their peak and aang had more than enough ability seen from his 1 and only year to learn 3 bending arts.

See by feats a younger aang puts a fight but loses but not an experienced aang which is what i am talking about.

He has the advantage in Metal bending(very likely), Redirection of lightning, Energy bending and toph's teaching style which is unique and gives a an advantage on the ground. Aang with exp is better
 

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use common sense toph taught a whole school of metal benders do u think she wouldnt teach the Avatar later on I am talking about an experienced aang here.
And again you haven no solid proof that Aang knows metal bending, so don't bring it into a verse thread.

there are certain things like speed that Roku lacked and dodging ability of an airbender which we didnt see but obviously its common sense to assume that he has those basic abilities same thing here with aang u really think toph would just keep that away from aang being his master but teach it to only a bunch of other kids really come on. See i dont bring up bloodbeinding because its actually unlikely that katara would teach something so vile to aang she never liked it but metal bending why the hell would toph not teach that.
How did he lack speed when he's a master level airbender. He can even glide via air tornadoes. Again your posts are based on nothing but assumptions. And again there's ZERO evidence Aang knows metal bending, so please stop bringing it up. That's like me saying Roku can utilize lightning without any solid evidence to prove it.


Roku had teachers there is a whole episode on that not denying that at all but toph is better she created metal bending and learned from badger moles which gives her and aang a advantage in ground based fights.
Lol no it doesn't. Badgermole was simply the first form of earthbending, but that doesn't mean it's the best. Roku's earthbending feats trump Aang's by far. Aang has never been shown raising a mountain level cliff.

Iroh created the redirection of lightning tech and its no big deal lol at that aang would have seriously injured and taken down ozai with that tech. Zuko also took out an experienced bender like ozai with that tech its very useful.
How's it very useful against Roku when he doesn't even have it? That's what I meant.

See ur making the assumption aang doesnt improve most avatars reach a high state of bending ability in their peak and aang had more than enough ability seen from his 1 and only year to learn 3 bending arts.
I'm not saying he didn't improve, but there's no evidence to say he's on par or above Roku in bending. His feats are far superior to Aang when it comes to bending.

See by feats a younger aang puts a fight but loses but not an experienced aang which is what i am talking about.
Experienced Aang has ZERO feats thus is nothing but an assumption on your part. There's no evidence he's on par or better than Roku in any art of bending. Roku's proven his skill in bending and I've already shown you proof of that.

He has the advantage in Metal bending(very likely), Redirection of lightning, Energy bending and toph's teaching style which is unique and gives a an advantage on the ground. Aang with exp is better
There's NO evidence he has metal bending, redirection of lightning is pointless against Roku, and energy bending is pointless as well since he'd have to restrict Roku's movements to do it.

Again your posts is nothing but assumptions. Experienced Aang this, experienced Aang that. Nobody knows how powerful he was. This is a verse thread, not a fantasy thread where you make a ton of assumptions.

Bring proof and feats or leave.
 
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And again you haven no solid proof that Aang knows metal bending, so don't bring it into a verse thread.



How did he lack speed when he's a master level airbender. He can even glide via air tornadoes. Again your posts are based on nothing but assumptions. And again there's ZERO evidence Aang knows metal bending, so please stop bringing it up. That's like me saying Roku can utilize lightning without any solid evidence to prove it.




Lol no it doesn't. Badgermole was simply the first form of earthbending, but that doesn't mean it's the best. Roku's earthbending feats trump Aang's by far. Aang has never been shown raising a mountain level cliff.



How's it very useful against Roku when he doesn't even have it? That's what I meant.



I'm not saying he didn't improve, but there's no evidence to say he's on par or above Roku in bending. His feats are far superior to Aang when it comes to bending.



Experienced Aang has ZERO feats thus is nothing but an assumption on your part. There's no evidence he's on par or better than Roku in any art of bending. Roku's proven his skill in bending and I've already shown you proof of that.



There's NO evidence he has metal bending, redirection of lightning is pointless against Roku, and energy bending is pointless as well since he'd have to restrict Roku's movements to do it.

Again your posts is nothing but assumptions. Experienced Aang this, experienced Aang that. Nobody knows how powerful he was. This is a verse thread, not a fantasy thread where you make a ton of assumptions.

Bringproof and feats or leave.



OK b4 anything are u talking about kid aang or experienced aang.

second redirection of lightning is pointless u kno it worked against the some of the best firebenders and gives an opening to clearly attack the foe so no it does matter.

Metal bending is a likely powerup to aang but i wont get further into it.

badgermole is best source to get earthbending training from, see toph outclassing that many earthbenders at once is due to that simple fact. It allows one to see their opponent's moves very clearly and come up with very good counterattacks something toph and aang do but its useful only on ground.


When i said roku can't do certain things such as have high speed and dodging skills of an airbender its because there is no proof but using common sense since he is a master airbender.


Also whats the point of this thread we have to make certain very likely assumptions because we all kno 13 year old kid aang<roku unless u include avatar state which u also neglected later on since roku has the disadvantage as u said.

Obviously there is no proof people have to make inferences. Because lets be clear using a 50 year old experienced avatar vs feats of a 13 year old kid is pointless.


But there are things like redirection of lightning and toph's way of earthbending that can help aang and give him advantage but its not enough if u r talking about a 13 year old aang.
 
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u r saying fully realized avatars in the beginning obviously i will think of a experienced aang. But if u r saying use feats when he was a kid then there is no point in this discussion. U have to speculate to a considerable amount or not have the discussion at all lol. And others were talking of an exp aang but if thats not what u meant then my bad and there is no point in this thread

because so far we dont have any feats of a fully realized avatar aang or one in his prime so u r pretty much creating a flawed vs thread.
 
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OK b4 anything are u talking about kid aang or experienced aang.
I don't care which one you use, but the fact is this experience Aang you keep speaking about has NO feats.

second redirection of lightning is pointless u kno it worked against the some of the best firebenders and gives an opening to clearly attack the foe so no it does matter.
*Sigh* Roku can't use lightning, so the redirection of it is pointless against Roku. What don't you get about that?

Metal bending is a likely powerup to aang but i wont get further into it.
And again there's ZERO proof to say he has it.

badgermole is best source to get earthbending training from, see toph outclassing that many earthbenders at once is due to that simple fact. It allows one to see their opponent's moves very clearly and come up with very good counterattacks something toph and aang do but its useful only on ground.
Toph is one of the best earthbenders, but not even she has the feats that match Roku's earthbending, which simply proves that badgermole isn't the best, it's simply the first.

When i said roku can't do certain things such as have high speed and dodging skills of an airbender its because there is no proof but using common sense since he is a master airbender.
All master airbenders have decent speed and good dodging skills, so why would Roku be any different? He wouldn't. Him being able to glide via air tornadoes, which by the way not even Aang could do or at least never demonstrated being able to do so should be enough proof that he has pretty decent speed. And the movement of airbenders is a common training exercise considering Korra in the LOK has to learn it as well.


Also whats the point of this thread we have to make certain very likely assumptions because we all kno 13 year old kid aang<roku unless u include avatar state which u also neglected later on since roku has the disadvantage as u said.
The point was to see others opinions. If you don't like it then simply don't post in it.

Obviously there is no proof people have to make inferences. Because lets be clear using a 50 year old experienced avatar vs feats of a 13 year old kid is pointless.
Roku when he was 28 was a complete master of all the elements, which he showed when using and holding all 4 elements simultaneously. He didn't just have those skills when he was old.

But there are things like redirection of lightning and toph's way of earthbending that can help aang and give him advantage but its not enough if u r talking about a 13 year old aang.

Aang was a fully realized avatar by the end of the series, so I wanted to see peoples opinions on how he'd matchup with Roku.

Anyway I'm done.
 

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I don't care which one you use, but the fact is this experience Aang you keep speaking about has NO feats.



*Sigh* Roku can't use lightning, so the redirection of it is pointless against Roku. What don't you get about that?



And again there's ZERO proof to say he has it.



Toph is one of the best earthbenders, but not even she has the feats that match Roku's earthbending, which simply proves that badgermole isn't the best, it's simply the first.



All master airbenders have decent speed and good dodging skills, so why would Roku be any different? He wouldn't. Him being able to glide via air tornadoes, which by the way not even Aang could do or at least never demonstrated being able to do so should be enough proof that he has pretty decent speed. And the movement of airbenders is a common training exercise considering Korra in the LOK has to learn it as well.




The point was to see others opinions. If you don't like it then simply don't post in it.



Roku when he was 28 was a complete master of all the elements, which he showed when using and holding all 4 elements simultaneously. He didn't just have those skills when he was old.




Aang was a fully realized avatar by the end of the series, so I wanted to see peoples opinions on how he'd matchup with Roku.

Anyway I'm done.
well against fire benders who can use lightning its useful but roku hasnt shown it doesnt matter. Not in this match but its very useful in general. I just didnt agree with how u said its almost useless

He got much better and performed some amazing feats like the earth slide wall and his whole airbending skills like cooling the lava and just took it to a whole new level when we saw his feats at his home island that is what i am talking about. And he is also older when he fights and beats sozin not a 28 year old.

Did i Deny that lol i know he must have good basic airbending skills even if they didnt show it i mentioned it in my post. but i just said they didnt show it

Toph has some amazing feats later on in the series even in the end of season 2 but her main advantage is that she can counterattack with the utmost precision compared to any earthbender ever seen so no roku isnt better just cause of that one feat. And biggest feat of all she achieved the novel Metal bending and was able to bend it very well as seen in the final eps of the show. Making the biggest feat isnt only the important aspect but also the part of waiting and striking at the best moment and toph does that. Toph has impressive feats of earth bending of her own she freaking held a huge old library so aang would get out alive. And she even performed sand bending during that time and improved on it later on in the show THAT IS ONE Impressive earthbender and even roku's feats are not enough. she has power and extreme predictive ability that is her best aspect because she learned from the badger that is why she was so easily above all earthbenders that is something that is undeniable. Not saying that others can't reach to her level but she got a huge edge due that and its probably the best source for earthbending no doubt about it

This is a flawed thread since one side has a clear cut advantage but w/e u do what u want lol.
 
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use common sense toph taught a whole school of metal benders do u think she wouldnt teach the Avatar later on I am talking about an experienced aang here.

there are certain things like speed that Roku lacked and dodging ability of an airbender which we didnt see but obviously its common sense to assume that he has those basic abilities same thing here with aang u really think toph would just keep that away from aang being his master but teach it to only a bunch of other kids really come on. See i dont bring up bloodbeinding because its actually unlikely that katara would teach something so vile to aang she never liked it but metal bending why the hell would toph not teach that.


Roku had teachers there is a whole episode on that not denying that at all but toph is better she created metal bending and learned from badger moles which gives her and aang a advantage in ground based fights.

Iroh created the redirection of lightning tech and its no big deal lol at that aang would have seriously injured and taken down ozai with that tech. Zuko also took out an experienced bender like ozai with that tech its very useful.

See ur making the assumption aang doesnt improve most avatars reach a high state of bending ability in their peak and aang had more than enough ability seen from his 1 and only year to learn 3 bending arts.

See by feats a younger aang puts a fight but loses but not an experienced aang which is what i am talking about.

He has the advantage in Metal bending(very likely), Redirection of lightning, Energy bending and toph's teaching style which is unique and gives a an advantage on the ground. Aang with exp is better
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