When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

So after Reading the Who Thread DO you Think Naruto using Kurama is Fair ???

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Technique has multiple meanings. Don't attack me because I saw it differently than what you may have meant.

Technique might have different meanings, but it doesn't mean you have low chakra thats a fact.
 

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Naruto fans don't realize that when comparing Sasuke to Naruto it is a very valid point to use Kurama as an excuse. Sasuke was born with sharingan; Naruto was given the 2 strongest bijuu in the series(next to 10-tails). How can anyone modern-day shinobi compare with that?
 

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Naruto fans don't realize that when comparing Sasuke to Naruto it is a very valid point to use Kurama as an excuse. Sasuke was born with sharingan; Naruto was given the 2 strongest bijuu in the series(next to 10-tails). How can anyone modern-day shinobi compare with that?

Sasuke was born with sharingan, but given everything else I.e. curse mark, MS and EMS
 

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naruto was "given" kyuubi.
sasuke unlocked sharingan.
The power that the younger son was given was the "body" but this has nothing to do with being a jinchuuriki so it's not naruto's power rightfully.
The power of the elder son is the "eyes" so uchiha have sharingan. Sasuke was basically born with this as part of his power so its his...
However, ppl should stop complaining about these characters, it annoying. They have what they have, so deal with it xd
 

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I know Naruto has achieved the true sage mode which gives multiple enhancements to the user. But if you count sage mode then you have to count Curse Seal mark. Also, naruto may get enhancements but when he uses rasenshuriken in sage mode he comes out of it and then has to re-enter. That is very hindering during battle.

where does it says that naruto has to exit sage mode everytime he uses rasensuriken? Naruto exhausted his sage chakra after using two rasensuriken and a few other rasengans. But that limitation does not apply without kurama as ma nad pa will be able to fuse with him and provide natural energy.

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Sasuke was born with sharingan, but given everything else I.e. curse mark, MS and EMS

He wasn't given MS. He was given power but you have to unlock MS just like how you have to unlock regular sharingan. And to be fair, he asked for EMS just like how Naruto asked to be trained to learn how to use kurama or how to get sage mode or how he asked for his own high-powered chakra move(rasengan) or how he asked to be taught how to use nature release. Naruto has asked for a lot more than Sasuke has. I ask for something so I am given what I ask for.
 

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naruto was "given" kyuubi.
sasuke unlocked sharingan.
The power that the younger son was given was the "body" but this has nothing to do with being a jinchuuriki so it's not naruto's power rightfully.
The power of the elder son is the "eyes" so uchiha have sharingan. Sasuke was basically born with this as part of his power so its his...
However, ppl should stop complaining about these characters, it annoying. They have what they have, so deal with it xd

Agree with last line but will like to add sasuke was GIVEN itachi's eyes after he blinded his own due to ms overuse. So his current eyes are not rightfully his.(As itachi wanted sasuke sealed in a genjutsu if he took his eyes)
 

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Agree with last line but will like to add sasuke was GIVEN itachi's eyes after he blinded his own due to ms overuse. So his current eyes are not rightfully his.(As itachi wanted sasuke sealed in a genjutsu if he took his eyes)

That's true. If he actually would have won to Itachi for his eyes (definitely wouldnt happen xd), then you could say he "earned" it, i guess.
 

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He wasn't given MS. He was given power but you have to unlock MS just like how you have to unlock regular sharingan. And to be fair, he asked for EMS just like how Naruto asked to be trained to learn how to use kurama or how to get sage mode or how he asked for his own high-powered chakra move(rasengan) or how he asked to be taught how to use nature release. Naruto has asked for a lot more than Sasuke has. I ask for something so I am given what I ask for.

Ur defending sasuke now...... whom did sasuke ask his ems for? Was itachi alive then?... as for naruto asking for training, didnt sasuke ask traing for chuning exam? ask training from orochimaru? asking for training and given a power boost isnt same ...... Also itachi didnt want to give his eyes to sasuke as he planned to put sasuke under a permanent genjutsu if he was found using itachi's eyes.
 

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where does it says that naruto has to exit sage mode everytime he uses rasensuriken? Naruto exhausted his sage chakra after using two rasensuriken and a few other rasengans. But that limitation does not apply without kurama as ma nad pa will be able to fuse with him and provide natural energy.

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I didn't mean that he has to exit after he uses rasenshuriken but he can only use it twice per transformation which means he has a total of six times to be used because it takes away half of his sage chakra. All I'm saying is base Sasuke is better than base Naruto.
 

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That's true. If he actually would have won to Itachi for his eyes (definitely wouldnt happen xd), then you could say he "earned" it, i guess.

'Took it without permission' would be better and more true....... but as u said sasuke do have ems and naruto do have kurama, accept that. Naruto fans say the sasuke's eyes are 'implanted' and sasuke fans say kurama chakra are 'external'
 

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base sasuke > base naruto he did it numerous of times at the academy and in part 2 and soloed the hole team 7

ms sasuke > sm naruto naruto cannot dodge amaterasu or arrows nuff said

EMS sasuke = BM naruto he only has one justu that gets thru susanoo is his tbb and hes open for amaterasu sasuke would get blown to peices and naruto would get burned to ashes
 

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Hmm

Sasuke Uchiha- Sharingan and all that comes with
Naruto Uzumaki- Super Chakra

(KYuby has nothing to do with naruto!, just that minato gave him the most powerfull nuclear weapon to his son, that for some wierd reason it makes no harm on naruto, it has being more a plus than a cursed (Fail))..

Base Sasuke >> Base naruto .
 

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Hmm

Sasuke Uchiha- Sharingan and all that comes with
Naruto Uzumaki- Super Chakra

(KYuby has nothing to do with naruto!, just that minato gave him the most powerfull nuclear weapon to his son, that for some wierd reason it makes no harm on naruto, it has being more a plus than a cursed (Fail))..

Base Sasuke > Base naruto .

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I didn't mean that he has to exit after he uses rasenshuriken but he can only use it twice per transformation which means he has a total of six times to be used because it takes away half of his sage chakra. All I'm saying is base Sasuke is better than base Naruto.

Well didnt u consider that sasuke may be lil bit dead if hit by a rasensuriken? Also if u want to say base naruto is weaker u have to prove these false:

Minus kurama, naruto still has his mother's chakra and life force, sage mode and rasensuriken, where as sasuke minus sharingan has katon and chidori.
Well do u remember the fact that keeping kurama sealed takes powerful chakra? Also that uzumaki clan is famous for having powerful chakra and strong life force?
Plus can u prove that naruto has low chakra? i havent came across any material that says that.........
Also u forgot the fact that without kurama ma and pa will have no problem merging with naruto and gather narural energy for him (as it was kurama that prevented their merging in the first place) so minus kurama or kurama as a friend naruto has infinite natural energy (theoretically, if u can remember jirya never running out of sage mode with ma and pa by him). So continuois sage mode= more chakra + allround power boost= clones= full power

Sasuke's only sure shot victory chance is kirin but u will need clouds for that...... or a streched battle with a lot of katon

Can u prove them wrong?
 
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Ur defending sasuke now...... whom did sasuke ask his ems for? Was itachi alive then?... as for naruto asking for training, didnt sasuke ask traing for chuning exam? ask training from orochimaru? asking for training and given a power boost isnt same ...... Also itachi didnt want to give his eyes to sasuke as he planned to put sasuke under a permanent genjutsu if he was found using itachi's eyes.

Sasuke asked Tobi for Itachi's eyes. Remeber he originally declined because he and Itachi had opposing views on the world so he didn't want his eyes. After meeting naruto, sakura and kakashi he told Tobi. In case you don't believe me here you go.
 

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He wasn't given MS. He was given power but you have to unlock MS just like how you have to unlock regular sharingan. And to be fair, he asked for EMS just like how Naruto asked to be trained to learn how to use kurama or how to get sage mode or how he asked for his own high-powered chakra move(rasengan) or how he asked to be taught how to use nature release. Naruto has asked for a lot more than Sasuke has. I ask for something so I am given what I ask for.

Rofl ok he was GIVEN power just like you're saying naruto was GIVEN kurama. ASking for EMS is not the same as asking to be trained to use kurama. If naruto didn't ask to be trained kurama would keep controlling naruto and eventually he'd kill someone he didn't intend to. Asking to be trained in sage mode and asking to be GIVEN EMS are NOT the same thing. Sasuke was also taught to use and manipulate One of his chakra natures which is lightning by kakashi. So in a nut shell Sasuke asked to be given his advanced powers, naruto was chosen to be given his advanced powers.
 

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Well didnt u consider that sasuke may be lil bit dead if hit by a rasensuriken? Also if u want to say base naruto is weaker u have to prove these false:

Minus kurama, naruto still has his mother's chakra and life force, sage mode and rasensuriken, where as sasuke minus sharingan has katon and chidori.
Well do u remember the fact that keeping kurama sealed takes powerful chakra? Also that uzumaki clan is famous for having powerful chakra and strong life force?
Plus can u prove that naruto has low chakra? i havent came across any material that says that.........
Also u forgot the fact that without kurama ma and pa will have no problem merging with naruto and gather narural energy for him (as it was kurama that prevented their merging in the first place) so minus kurama or kurama as a friend naruto has infinite natural energy (theoretically, if u can remember jirya never running out of sage mode with ma and pa by him). So continuois sage mode= more chakra + allround power boost= clones= full power

Sasuke's only sure shot victory chance is kirin but u will need clouds for that...... or a streched battle

Can u prove them wrong?

well considering a simple katon > rasenshurikens and if were assuming things sasuke wil practice mostly on his taijutsu and become fast in possibly learn lighting armor as A and yes the fight will be long and kirin as a big finish
 
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