When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

[Anorien16]

If he couldn't even make a clone while in school when everyone else could then his chakra must suck, at the time but still gives perspective to how low it was. Plus every attack that involves his rasengan and varients of it require a clone to make. Plus he needs clones to activate sage mode. If he has to constantly make clones to perform his moves then it stands to reason that without the clones Naruto's attacks become severly limited. Sasuke's isn't that high either but it's a helluva lot more than Naruto's(base chakra)

If u remember well, u will remember he couldnt do it because he had poor chakra control THEN and now he is improved in that aspect. Also remember naruto had kurama's chakra since birth? so he couldnt do shadow clone, suddenly he reads a scroll and he can do multiple shadow clones? Does that seem lack of chakra there? Simple he didnt know the tech properly,(every teacher hated him plus he was not that willing to learn always skipping classes) So he learnt the secret hand sighn and can do the tech now...... Also naruto couldnt do most techs before.... but that was in the past

 

[Sephy100]

That has nothing to do with low or high chakra it's about the technique.

That's the whole point. If you have low chakra then how can you use your techniques multiple times especially against akatsuki opponents.

 

[YourMom]

That's the whole point. If you have low chakra then how can you use your techniques multiple times especially against akatsuki opponents.

You aren't comprehending. He doesn't have low chakra he had poor chakra control/technique. He has very high amounts of chakra. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[shuvham]

naruto is way stronger than our little avenger

 

[uchiha defender]

would you like some cheese to go with all that whine?

 

[shuvham]

kakashi himself tells that naruto's skills with clones are ultimate and even the fourth couldn't do it like that

 

[Sephy100]

If u remember well, u will remember he couldnt do it because he had poor chakra control THEN and now he is improved in that aspect. Also remember naruto had kurama's chakra since birth? so he couldnt do shadow clone, suddenly he reads a scroll and he can do multiple shadow clones? Does that seem lack of chakra there? Simple he didnt know the tech properly,(every teacher hated him plus he was not that willing to learn always skipping classes) So he learnt the secret hand sighn and can do the tech now...... Also naruto couldnt do most techs before.... but that was in the past

Everything you said can be summed up in one work: Kurama. In the anime, how many clones did he create to help him master his chakra control and nature release. Even Kakashi told him that it was something only he could do because of the amount of chakra he holds due to kurama. Even Yamato was astounded at the sheer amount he created because no normal shinobi could do that. My point is that Kurama increase everything about Naruto, from strength to speed to chakra while sharingan doesn't give you a body enhancement. It gives you perception and access to OP moves but he was born with sharingan while Naruto was given Kurama. When it comes to both being normal then it should be common sense that Sasuke is better than Naruto but when it comes to everything that they have then Naruto outclasses Sasuke.

 

[Anorien16]

Where does it say that sage mode recovers chakra? Also, Jiraiya was a sannin meaning that his base chakra was leagues above Naruto and the same holds true for Sasuke. Jiraiya had age and experience and trained alot longer as a sage.

Ok sorry i dont remember well but i swear pa said that senjutsu helps to recover chakra faster, anyway u cant deny sage mode give chakra(atleast 33%) and power boost.... plus naruto surpassed jirya if u remember, and he is a sage too.....

 

[Mishima]

Sasuke's taijutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu, and hand seals are far more better than Naruto's. Without Kurama, Naruto's chakra level is low. The Sharingan is not a chakra source, so taking that away from Sasuke would not effect his chakra level. But taking Kurama away from Naruto would effect Naruto's chakra level.

Naruto needs clones to do rasengan, to do rasenshuriken, that chakra he uses to maintain all of those clones comes from Kurama. Take Kurama away, he would not be able to maintain tons of clones. And if he can't maintain tons of clones, it makes 75% of his jutsu, useless.

The truth is: Naruto without Kurama is weaker than Sasuke.

 

[Dark Artist]

100% agree
+Rep

 

[Sephy100]

You aren't comprehending. He doesn't have low chakra he had poor chakra control/technique. He has very high amounts of chakra. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

Technique has multiple meanings. Don't attack me because I saw it differently than what you may have meant.

 

[rikudo bz]

I think it is Fair, reason is, a shinobi can and should use everything he has as tools. The point here is the effectiveness of using it. I think Kurama is just a tool just as Sasuke Sharingan. the way it is used that would make it deadly. In the Naruto world, one your on a fight you need to use all you got or you will end up dead. So it is Fair that Naruto use Kurama

 

[dominicansharingan]

Didn't read :/

 

[Anorien16]

Minus kurama, naruto still has his mother's chakra and life force, sage mode and rasensuriken, where as sasuke minus sharingan has katon and chidori.
Well do u remember the fact that keeping kurama sealed takes powerful chakra? Also that uzumaki clan is famous for having powerful chakra and strong life force?
Plus can u prove that naruto has low chakra? i havent came across any material that says that.........
Also u forgot the fact that without kurama ma and pa will have no problem merging with naruto and gather narural energy for him (as it was kurama that prevented their merging in the first place) so minus kurama or kurama as a friend naruto has infinite natural energy (theoretically, if u can remember jirya never running out of sage mode with ma and pa by him). So continuois sage mode= more chakra + allround power boost= clones= full power

Plus naruto dont need 100 clones for rasensuriken only 2-3 will do that wont need huge chakra.....

Can u prove them wrong?

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

If Sasuke didn't have Sharingan he'd be weaker than Naruto without Kurama.

u must have never read this manga

all evidence proves base sasuke is Superior all around if i have to show y then u either u don't like sasuke or don't no the manga

 

[Anorien16]

I think it is Fair, reason is, a shinobi can and should use everything he has as tools. The point here is the effectiveness of using it. I think Kurama is just a tool just as Sasuke Sharingan. the way it is used that would make it deadly. In the Naruto world, one your on a fight you need to use all you got or you will end up dead. So it is Fair that Naruto use Kurama

Thats what is the pooint of the thread...... u have to utilise what u have got..... also if u want to say naruto was given kurama, sasuke too was given new eyes after he was blinded my ms overuse.

 

[Sephy100]

Ok sorry i dont remember well but i swear pa said that senjutsu helps to recover chakra faster, anyway u cant deny sage mode give chakra(atleast 33%) and power boost.... plus naruto surpassed jirya if u remember, and he is a sage too.....

I know Naruto has achieved the true sage mode which gives multiple enhancements to the user. But if you count sage mode then you have to count Curse Seal mark. Also, naruto may get enhancements but when he uses rasenshuriken in sage mode he comes out of it and then has to re-enter. That is very hindering during battle.

 

[YourMom]

Sasuke's taijutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu, and hand seals are far more better than Naruto's. Without Kurama, Naruto's chakra level is low. The Sharingan is not a chakra source, so taking that away from Sasuke would not effect his chakra level. But taking Kurama away from Naruto would effect Naruto's chakra level.

Naruto needs clones to do rasengan, to do rasenshuriken, that chakra he uses to maintain all of those clones comes from Kurama. Take Kurama away, he would not be able to maintain tons of clones. And if he can't maintain tons of clones, it makes 75% of his jutsu, useless.

The truth is: Naruto without Kurama is weaker than Sasuke.

Equal in taijutsu, equal in ninjutsu, Sasuke is better at genjutsu if you discount narutos SM and Sasuke is better at hand seals. Without kurama naruto still has high chakra reserves whcih is why kurama was sealed inside him in the first place. The sharingan isn't a chakra source, but using it does drain away at the users chakra which is why they turn it off and on. Taking sasukes sharingan away wouldn't take away from his chakra levels, but it would make him...kakashi basically, but with less speed. Narutos use of his shadow clones doesn't make him any less of a ninja than the other shinobi. He'd still be able to use Atleast 2 shadow clones (which is the amount he used to make his rasengan).

 

[YourMom]

I know Naruto has achieved the true sage mode which gives multiple enhancements to the user. But if you count sage mode then you have to count Curse Seal mark. Also, naruto may get enhancements but when he uses rasenshuriken in sage mode he comes out of it and then has to re-enter. That is very hindering during battle.

I told you already Sasuke doesn't have the curse mark anymore

 

[rikudo bz]

totally agree, Itachi's eyes was given to sasuke, Eternal Msharingan, its not like if sasuke developed it. just like naruto he was given the 9tails. so its perfectly legal.

what am i saying, legal does not play a roll, use what ever you have to keep alive Naruto, and pls beat the cra9 out of sasuke.