sage mode jirayia can dodge Amaterasu

[obscoral]

you didn't even know that an imperfect sage doesn;t have the abilty to sense chakra.

may i remind u that u r wasting your time arguing a j-fb

 

[james the fourth]

:sy: fodder with kuani? are u kidding? that fodder needs to come as close as half meter to land a hit
even ton-ton can avoid him
and i hope u dont think ton ton is a sensor pig

sensing that amaterasu is coming wont help unless u have either PNJ or PSH

and call "retard" to your buddy in the mirror

:sy:

like steinbiz said

lol, well you asked!
sensing=avoiding when:
1) Naruto dodges 3rd Raikage's attack and hits his shoulder with a Rasengan thanks to sensing abilities.
2) Kabuto steps sideways to avoid Sasuke's Amaterasu


GTFO U_U

 

[james the fourth]

may i remind u that u r wasting your time arguing a j-fb

yep ur mad.

btw im prince charles wats up bro ? xd

 

[Steinbiz]

either give me a link for that statement or GTFO

^ exactly. That comment he made was made directly from assumption. imperfect means lack of actual sage techniques, or lessened sage techniques. you don't know that until Kishi writes it down "in fact".

so until proven otherwise, he had everything Naruto had, just at a lessened state.

 

[natssuu]

either give me a link for that statement or GTFO

Give me a link where it says that Jiraiya has sensing abilities.

 

[obscoral]

yep ur mad.

btw im prince charles wats up bro ? xd

lawl i aint even mad

i did not know u were a toadlover

 

[Stark]

It's a possibility.

 

[Dolpha Mihawk]

lol, you care about destroying someone on the internet? anyway, you obviously just lied because I've been part of Jiraiya vs Itachi threads since this website opened on April 25, 2008. And I've always come up with arguements that Itachi fans can't argue against.

Good try, but fail indeed sir.

btw, polls on this site don't even count anyway. cuz that's just simply the 14 year old kid voting for his favorite character, not using logic. even though Jiraiya wins all the Jiraiya vs Itachi threads anyways.xd not only on narutobase, but other Naruto forum websites too. but still....just sayin'

i couldn't care less about polls and itachi wins most of them against jiraya which is pretty logical
your so shit at arguing however you couldn't even counter this.
id rather not listen to someone who can't spell arguing.

Pro-Itachi Argument

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to use your exhausting trump-card genjutsu,

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, on a broken genin (although that is something that someone that stomped Jiriaya's genius-rival

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might do...) We know Itachi has

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to Kisame about the hype he gave Jiraiya that

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his previous statement, and Kisame even

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himself. So between ridiculously false hype and databook stat totals, which are a staple argument of Jiriaya fans because Itachi has the most maximum scores of any ninja, whereas Jiraiya has very few maximum scores.Now we can move on to... Feats-stuff.

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First, if Jiraiya summon an army on top of Ma and Pa, Itachi can dodge a toad army all day

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who

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. Secondly, Itachi has

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to manipulate multiple targets, or he control summons with the Sharingan power that Minato needed a

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placed on the controller to counter. Sasuke directly stated that

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, but that it was stronger than his own at the time, being able to control the Nine Tails. It is the same ability, according to the databook, and common misnomer is that the power is an illusion, or that the summons are being tricked, is incorrect. The databook and Manda indicate that it isn't a trick, but a raw control:



As for the hyped Food Cart Destroyer or Yomi Numa for that matter, please note: Jiriaya said that his senbon technique was his

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i.e. his hardest jutsu to evade. The databook text of Food Cart Destroyer does say "right above". However, it means right above as "in a straight line above". The Japanese word is 真上 (ma-ue). There is no implication of distance, other than the mentioned several hundred-foot dive. This is why it has only ever been used on giant creatures, and not tiny ninja, because the ninja have a great deal more time to react. Moreover, the Sharingan determines the

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of a technique, and would see it coming. Moreover, Jiriaya, like Killer Bee, is an

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, and if by some miracle he achieves Hermit Mode, Itachi is able to

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to kill Jiraiya since their willpower is almost certainly less than the Nine Tailed Fox. But lets say Jiraiya starts in Hermit Mode, and that Itachi can't control Fukasaku to remove Jiriaya's head.

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Jiriaya's detection barrier is a banner for pro-Jiriaya arguers, but they frequently ignore that Jiraiya himself said that

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and without knowing

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he has to do what everyone has had to do. Either not look at Itachi at all, or look at Itachi's eyes (

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.) Having inferior intellect and knowledge of genjutsu to Orochimaru will come in handy here. But if Ma and Pa, who aren't being controlled for plot reasons, break him out, realize that it still took time for

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to break weaker genjutsu, and even

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However, Jiriaya might as well instantly reflect all of Itachi's genjutsu back on to Itachi for all the good it will do him against the rest of Itachi's arsenal.

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There are some key things everybody ignores about this feat. The Raikage spent time

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for a shunshin that Karin and C noticed. Secondly, the Raikage was tipped off by

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. Neither of these are likely for Jiraiya who will probably be

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. As a tertiary point, it's highly unlikely that Jiraiya can even match A's ushrouded reflexes. And as a quaternary point, Itachi's Amaterasu burns

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than Sasuke's thus far, and was activated while running at full speed towards a wall five feet away. And then, his ultimate jutsu:

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It's a common mistake to assume Susano'o is a primarily defensive jutsu. It's not. The databook first and foremost hypes the

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that presumably surpasses his other two techniques. It caught Orochimaru in between words, right in front of him, without him even noticing, when other speed demons get

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off. Kakashi and Danzō had to use instant jutsu to deflect Susano'o attacks because they were so fast, and Sasuke only recently attained

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of Susano'o, which the author decided was a power-up to save for later. If Jiraiya is in the vicinity when it's activated, or if he thinks he break through it, then he's dead. It's also the best defensive jutsu in the manga, changing nature and shape to allegedly counter any jutsu.

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Jiriaya does not behave like a genius. He will most likely not make an immediate tactical retreat for Hermit Mode, as Gamaken was simply

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, and Jiriaya is the guy who hopped on

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to fight him. He will most likely not make a combat team of Kage Bunshin when it would have

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instead of using one as a momentary distraction. On the other hand, Itachi most likely will use genjutsu, and his Mangekyō Sharingan techniques, which Jiraiya can't answer to. Jiraiya needs to be smarter than Itachi to have a chance of winning... but he's not.

 

[james the fourth]

Give me a link where it says that Jiraiya has sensing abilities.

rofl sage mode gives the user sensing abilities. if u read the manga you would know that

 

[james the fourth]

lawl i aint even mad

i did not know u were a toadlover

:noc:

 

[james the fourth]

i couldn't care less about polls and itachi wins most of them against jiraya which is pretty logical
your so shit at arguing however you couldn't even counter this.
id rather not listen to someone who can't spell arguing.

Pro-Itachi Argument

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Actions speak louder than words: you don't turn your back on someone that

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to use your exhausting trump-card genjutsu,

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, on a broken genin (although that is something that someone that stomped Jiriaya's genius-rival

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might do...) We know Itachi has

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to Kisame about the hype he gave Jiraiya that

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his previous statement, and Kisame even

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himself. So between ridiculously false hype and databook stat totals, which are a staple argument of Jiriaya fans because Itachi has the most maximum scores of any ninja, whereas Jiraiya has very few maximum scores.Now we can move on to... Feats-stuff.

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First, if Jiraiya summon an army on top of Ma and Pa, Itachi can dodge a toad army all day

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who

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. Secondly, Itachi has

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to manipulate multiple targets, or he control summons with the Sharingan power that Minato needed a

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placed on the controller to counter. Sasuke directly stated that

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, but that it was stronger than his own at the time, being able to control the Nine Tails. It is the same ability, according to the databook, and common misnomer is that the power is an illusion, or that the summons are being tricked, is incorrect. The databook and Manda indicate that it isn't a trick, but a raw control:



As for the hyped Food Cart Destroyer or Yomi Numa for that matter, please note: Jiriaya said that his senbon technique was his

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i.e. his hardest jutsu to evade. The databook text of Food Cart Destroyer does say "right above". However, it means right above as "in a straight line above". The Japanese word is 真上 (ma-ue). There is no implication of distance, other than the mentioned several hundred-foot dive. This is why it has only ever been used on giant creatures, and not tiny ninja, because the ninja have a great deal more time to react. Moreover, the Sharingan determines the

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of a technique, and would see it coming. Moreover, Jiriaya, like Killer Bee, is an

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, and if by some miracle he achieves Hermit Mode, Itachi is able to

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to kill Jiraiya since their willpower is almost certainly less than the Nine Tailed Fox. But lets say Jiraiya starts in Hermit Mode, and that Itachi can't control Fukasaku to remove Jiriaya's head.

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Jiriaya's detection barrier is a banner for pro-Jiriaya arguers, but they frequently ignore that Jiraiya himself said that

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and without knowing

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he has to do what everyone has had to do. Either not look at Itachi at all, or look at Itachi's eyes (

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.) Having inferior intellect and knowledge of genjutsu to Orochimaru will come in handy here. But if Ma and Pa, who aren't being controlled for plot reasons, break him out, realize that it still took time for

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to break weaker genjutsu, and even

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However, Jiriaya might as well instantly reflect all of Itachi's genjutsu back on to Itachi for all the good it will do him against the rest of Itachi's arsenal.

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There are some key things everybody ignores about this feat. The Raikage spent time

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for a shunshin that Karin and C noticed. Secondly, the Raikage was tipped off by

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. Neither of these are likely for Jiraiya who will probably be

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. As a tertiary point, it's highly unlikely that Jiraiya can even match A's ushrouded reflexes. And as a quaternary point, Itachi's Amaterasu burns

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than Sasuke's thus far, and was activated while running at full speed towards a wall five feet away. And then, his ultimate jutsu:

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It's a common mistake to assume Susano'o is a primarily defensive jutsu. It's not. The databook first and foremost hypes the

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that presumably surpasses his other two techniques. It caught Orochimaru in between words, right in front of him, without him even noticing, when other speed demons get

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off. Kakashi and Danzō had to use instant jutsu to deflect Susano'o attacks because they were so fast, and Sasuke only recently attained

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of Susano'o, which the author decided was a power-up to save for later. If Jiraiya is in the vicinity when it's activated, or if he thinks he break through it, then he's dead. It's also the best defensive jutsu in the manga, changing nature and shape to allegedly counter any jutsu.

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Jiriaya does not behave like a genius. He will most likely not make an immediate tactical retreat for Hermit Mode, as Gamaken was simply

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, and Jiriaya is the guy who hopped on

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to fight him. He will most likely not make a combat team of Kage Bunshin when it would have

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instead of using one as a momentary distraction. On the other hand, Itachi most likely will use genjutsu, and his Mangekyō Sharingan techniques, which Jiraiya can't answer to. Jiraiya needs to be smarter than Itachi to have a chance of winning... but he's not.

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[Dolpha Mihawk]

Senjutsu (仙術; Literally meaning "Sage Techniques") refers to a specialised field of techniques that allows the user to sense and then gather the natural energy (自然エネルギー, shizen enerugī) around a person. Senjutsu practitioners can then learn to draw the energy of nature inside of them blending it with their own chakra (created from spiritual and physical energy within the shinobi), adding a new dimension of power to the sage's chakra, resulting in the creation of "senjutsu chakra" (仙術チャクラ, senjutsu chakura). This chakra cannot be seen by anyone other than those who have been trained in senjutsu.

This new chakra enables the user to enter an empowered state called Sage Mode, which can then drastically increase the strength of all ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. A person who is able to use senjutsu is called a sage (仙人, sennin) If one Perfects the age art The user gains the ability to sense chakra around them. Currently, there are two known ways to learn senjutsu. One of them is to study under toads from Mount Myōboku, as Shima, Fukasaku, Jiraiya and Naruto have done. Gamakichi and Gamabunta also seem to be familiar with it.

↑ Third Databook, page 279

 

[Steinbiz]

i couldn't care less about polls and itachi wins most of them against jiraya which is pretty logical
your so shit at arguing however you couldn't even counter this.
id rather not listen to someone who can't spell arguing.

Pro-Itachi Argument

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Actions speak louder than words: you don't turn your back on someone that

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to use your exhausting trump-card genjutsu,

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, on a broken genin (although that is something that someone that stomped Jiriaya's genius-rival

You must be registered for see links

might do...) We know Itachi has

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to Kisame about the hype he gave Jiraiya that

You must be registered for see links

his previous statement, and Kisame even

You must be registered for see links

himself. So between ridiculously false hype and databook stat totals, which are a staple argument of Jiriaya fans because Itachi has the most maximum scores of any ninja, whereas Jiraiya has very few maximum scores.Now we can move on to... Feats-stuff.

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First, if Jiraiya summon an army on top of Ma and Pa, Itachi can dodge a toad army all day

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who

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. Secondly, Itachi has

You must be registered for see links

to manipulate multiple targets, or he control summons with the Sharingan power that Minato needed a

You must be registered for see links

placed on the controller to counter. Sasuke directly stated that

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, but that it was stronger than his own at the time, being able to control the Nine Tails. It is the same ability, according to the databook, and common misnomer is that the power is an illusion, or that the summons are being tricked, is incorrect. The databook and Manda indicate that it isn't a trick, but a raw control:



As for the hyped Food Cart Destroyer or Yomi Numa for that matter, please note: Jiriaya said that his senbon technique was his

You must be registered for see links

i.e. his hardest jutsu to evade. The databook text of Food Cart Destroyer does say "right above". However, it means right above as "in a straight line above". The Japanese word is 真上 (ma-ue). There is no implication of distance, other than the mentioned several hundred-foot dive. This is why it has only ever been used on giant creatures, and not tiny ninja, because the ninja have a great deal more time to react. Moreover, the Sharingan determines the

You must be registered for see links

of a technique, and would see it coming. Moreover, Jiriaya, like Killer Bee, is an

You must be registered for see links

, and if by some miracle he achieves Hermit Mode, Itachi is able to

You must be registered for see links

to kill Jiraiya since their willpower is almost certainly less than the Nine Tailed Fox. But lets say Jiraiya starts in Hermit Mode, and that Itachi can't control Fukasaku to remove Jiriaya's head.

You must be registered for see images

Jiriaya's detection barrier is a banner for pro-Jiriaya arguers, but they frequently ignore that Jiraiya himself said that

You must be registered for see links

and without knowing

You must be registered for see links

he has to do what everyone has had to do. Either not look at Itachi at all, or look at Itachi's eyes (

You must be registered for see links

.) Having inferior intellect and knowledge of genjutsu to Orochimaru will come in handy here. But if Ma and Pa, who aren't being controlled for plot reasons, break him out, realize that it still took time for

You must be registered for see links

to break weaker genjutsu, and even

You must be registered for see links

However, Jiriaya might as well instantly reflect all of Itachi's genjutsu back on to Itachi for all the good it will do him against the rest of Itachi's arsenal.

You must be registered for see images

There are some key things everybody ignores about this feat. The Raikage spent time

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for a shunshin that Karin and C noticed. Secondly, the Raikage was tipped off by

You must be registered for see links

. Neither of these are likely for Jiraiya who will probably be

You must be registered for see links

. As a tertiary point, it's highly unlikely that Jiraiya can even match A's ushrouded reflexes. And as a quaternary point, Itachi's Amaterasu burns

You must be registered for see links

than Sasuke's thus far, and was activated while running at full speed towards a wall five feet away. And then, his ultimate jutsu:

You must be registered for see images

It's a common mistake to assume Susano'o is a primarily defensive jutsu. It's not. The databook first and foremost hypes the

You must be registered for see links

that presumably surpasses his other two techniques. It caught Orochimaru in between words, right in front of him, without him even noticing, when other speed demons get

You must be registered for see links

off. Kakashi and Danzō had to use instant jutsu to deflect Susano'o attacks because they were so fast, and Sasuke only recently attained

You must be registered for see links

of Susano'o, which the author decided was a power-up to save for later. If Jiraiya is in the vicinity when it's activated, or if he thinks he break through it, then he's dead. It's also the best defensive jutsu in the manga, changing nature and shape to allegedly counter any jutsu.

You must be registered for see images

Jiriaya does not behave like a genius. He will most likely not make an immediate tactical retreat for Hermit Mode, as Gamaken was simply

You must be registered for see links

, and Jiriaya is the guy who hopped on

You must be registered for see links

to fight him. He will most likely not make a combat team of Kage Bunshin when it would have

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instead of using one as a momentary distraction. On the other hand, Itachi most likely will use genjutsu, and his Mangekyō Sharingan techniques, which Jiraiya can't answer to. Jiraiya needs to be smarter than Itachi to have a chance of winning... but he's not.

that entire post is fail itself, dude. lol, you only mention how Jiraiya can lose to Itachi, not the other way around. that's a clear indication of a fanboy right there. there's no logic, just assumption based on favoritism.

like I said, not going to prove anything because this site is a bunch of trolls that have single-minded way of thinking.

so keep yelling, I guess...<3

 

[Dolpha Mihawk]

that was destroyed by owarji in one post.

also you were banned and you made another account how lols.
im reporting you

 

[Dolpha Mihawk]

that entire post is fail itself, dude. lol, you only mention how Jiraiya can lose to Itachi, not the other way around. that's a clear indication of a fanboy right there. there's no logic, just assumption based on favoritism.

like I said, not going to prove anything because this site is a bunch of trolls that have single-minded way of thinking.

so keep yelling, I guess...<3

yep had a feeling you and your shitty arguments couldn't compare sorry for breaking your hearts jiraya fanboys.

 

[james the fourth]

that was destroyed by owarji in one post.

also you were banned and you made another account how lols.
im reporting you

owarij didnt destroy if i still making counters smart ass

plus tsuchi already knows i made another account dum ass she didnt do anything, shes actually ok with it, im not doing anything wrong so gtfo so go ahead and report me. nothing will happen

 

[Dolpha Mihawk]

oh yeah and statement on sage mode

Senjutsu (仙術; Literally meaning "Sage Techniques") refers to a specialised field of techniques that allows the user to sense and then gather the natural energy (自然エネルギー, shizen enerugī) around a person. Senjutsu practitioners can then learn to draw the energy of nature inside of them blending it with their own chakra (created from spiritual and physical energy within the shinobi), adding a new dimension of power to the sage's chakra, resulting in the creation of "senjutsu chakra" (仙術チャクラ, senjutsu chakura). This chakra cannot be seen by anyone other than those who have been trained in senjutsu.

This new chakra enables the user to enter an empowered state called Sage Mode, which can then drastically increase the strength of all ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. A person who is able to use senjutsu is called a sage (仙人, sennin) and if one perfects sennin mode The user gains the ability to sense chakra around them.

↑ Third Databook, page 279

 

[james the fourth]

↑ Third Databook, page 279

i aint even mad. :noc:​

 

[Dolpha Mihawk]

well you can suck me because this whole thread including your 'arguments' on jiraya v itachi are irrelevent.

 

[obscoral]

i aint even mad. :noc:​

lawl dude, u were countering owarij?