Opinions: When they count and when they don't

[FizzyDrink]

Ok, so here's just a small rant that I want to get across to some of you, and it's about opinions posted on these threads.

There is a time and a place for opinions. They should only be allowed when there isn't OVERWHELMING evidence of the contrary. One can't say "it's my opinion" on some idea that has been proven beyond a doubt to be wrong. At that point they are just trolling. Unless they can come up with a valid argument to the contrary, they have to leave it be an stop annoying everyone else.

Now, another problem I see is that people hate on others for their opinions. A prime example is the whole "who's better, Hashirama or Hiruzen prime". People are forcing their OPINIONS on others on this subject, when the simple truth is there is in no way enough information on either to make a fair judgement on who was the more powerful ninja! Everyone has their opinion, and they are allowed to prove it to the extent that it has been proven, but don't force it on others when it's clear that there is much more to the story.

People, please understand both sides of the equation. Sure, you're allowed your opinion, but only as long as you have some proof to back it up, and good proof, not like some people I've seen who say that Tobi is Obito because of their names and hair. And on the other side, please understand that sometimes your opinion is not based completely on facts, and some is speculation. And as a result, someone else may be correct, and you have to accept that. Lets have a little more civility on the base.

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

Nicely said I guess, but it won't change a thing, many have tried before you, many will try after you, all will fail U_U

 

[FizzyDrink]

Nicely said I guess, but it won't change a thing, many have tried before you, many will try after you, all will fail U_U

I know. I just figured I could get my opinion on the subject out, it constantly annoys me to see this.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Using opinion is a typical trait of a Hashirama fanboy and his/her arguments on this Hashi vs Hiruzen debate.

 

[Pavoneo]

Oh my... +rep

 

[FizzyDrink]

Using opinion is a typical trait of a Hashirama fanboy and his/her arguments on this Hashi vs Hiruzen debate.

And what I'm saying with this thread is that to an extent, they are allowed their opinions. Have we seen Hashirama in his prime truly fight? No. Have we seen Hiruzen in his prime truly fight? No. So there is plenty of room for speculation. I personally believe that Hashirama was stronger in his prime. I won't tell you why, I'll just tell you that I have every right to believe that, because you can't 100% prove me wrong.

 

[Hipster Madara]

I agree.

 

[lonewolf77766]

And what I'm saying with this thread is that to an extent, they are allowed their opinions. Have we seen Hashirama in his prime truly fight? No. Have we seen Hiruzen in his prime truly fight? No. So there is plenty of room for speculation. I personally believe that Hashirama was stronger in his prime. I won't tell you why, I'll just tell you that I have every right to believe that, because you can't 100% prove me wrong.

LOL, read the manga, it clearly show us that an Old-Hiruzen beat a prime and immortal Hashi, unless Kishi retcon the future Naruto Chapters.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

And what I'm saying with this thread is that to an extent, they are allowed their opinions. Have we seen Hashirama in his prime truly fight? No. Have we seen Hiruzen in his prime truly fight? No. So there is plenty of room for speculation. I personally believe that Hashirama was stronger in his prime. I won't tell you why, I'll just tell you that I have every right to believe that, because you can't 100% prove me wrong.

I can 100% manga = truth.

Manga said Hiruzen = Strongest hokage

therefore,

Hiruzen = strongest hokage = truth

Simple logic, 100% manga fact as of this moment in time.

 

[Invsblphntm]

LOL, read the manga, it clearly show us that an Old-Hiruzen beat a prime and immortal Hashi, unless Kishi retcon the future Naruto Chapters.

The problem is he is retconning that. He'll never say he is, so there will never be any facts, but just use your head.

 

[YourMom]

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[YourMom]

I can 100% manga = truth.

Manga said Hiruzen = Strongest hokage

therefore,

Hiruzen = strongest hokage = truth

Simple logic, 100% manga fact as of this moment in time.

If I recall iruka said he the third was the strongest, and everyone else says the third was the strongest. They're called opinions

 

[Pavoneo]

It's funny how this thread is being completely shadowed by ridiculously pathetic threads right now..

God I hate people-_-

[EDIT] Don't you people dare turn this into a Hiruzen vs. Madara thread omg. I've only seen 80 of those today as it is. . .

 

[sWAy253]

It becomes like that when the fans turn into fanatics and logic is replaced with lunacy. I it see all the time in vs threads. It will never stop, when someones favorite character is being bashed by someone else they feel they have to defend said character, which there is nothing wrong with that because I do the same. Your right,when I argue a point I use logic, instead of just saying whatever.

 

[FizzyDrink]

I can 100% manga = truth.

Manga said Hiruzen = Strongest hokage

therefore,

Hiruzen = strongest hokage = truth

Simple logic, 100% manga fact as of this moment in time.

Who exactly says that? Sounds like the opinion of the village or of certain villagers to me. I base my opinion on feats, and since there aren't any real feats shown to base this whole thing off of, I'm entitled to my own opinion. That's all I'm trying to say. This is not supposed to become a Hashi vs. Hiruzen thread. I'm just trying to prove a point.