[DISCUSSION] Legend of Korra - Episode 8: When Extremes Meet

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''When Extremes Meet''​

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[Flame Alchemist]

it's out already? that was faster than I thought

 

[Roofy128]

lol the little kid 'we shall meet again beautiful woman'

 

[Kazamori]

OH MY GOD !!! I was watching live stream and by the end of the episode I was speechless. Just staring at the screen with my jaw open because of all the awesomeness and things I did not expect to see today.

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I'll go watch it again

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

O.O OH MY GOD

best f*cking episode ever at the begining we get some laughs in its goes slow and at the end an epic battle between korra and tarrlock ten times better then tenzins air bending last episode. was anyone else cheering " go avatar state go avatar state dam it" when korra was put into that truck? xd

my theory now is that tarrlock is amon. its just teh look on his face when korra says he's worse then amon he thinks she's on to him this is what i think tarrlock is using the power he already has to manipulate the bender and non benders to fight against each other as he wants. meanwhile in secert he is playing the role of amon taking away bending using blood bending. as we know there has to be a gene present to bend he's using blood bending to over write that gene. once all benders are gone he'll be the only bender making him the strongest person in the world. another thing that proves this if korra does infact only get this visions in amons presence then tarrlock must be amon.

my prediction for next week korra finds her self locked in the room where the avatar stsues are in the south air temple ( as you need air bending to escape so she won't be able to.) she'll look at the anng staue and start to meditate like tenzin said she'll find anng and talkj to him he will reveal the truth and do to korra what roku did to aang and help her escape and get back. meanwhile tenzin and lin will be looking for korra and other captured people.

 

[Jokey]

Oh em gie, it was so epic, the fight between Tarrlock and Korra I hoped she would kill him instantly dammit!

However, Katara has to do something with that blood-bending thing Tarrlock can use, and I think that Tarrlock and Amon are brothers or are families that's why you seemed the look on his face when she told him that his behavior is the exactly same as Amon. Finally some Azula-like personality =DD

 

[Midday]

It's weird seeing how common these advanced bending styles(Blood, Metal, lighting) are compared to the old series. The fight at the end was awesome but I thought Korra relies on earth bending too much, you would think she'd use water more since she's from a water village.

 

[Caliburn]

O.O OH MY GOD

best f*cking episode ever at the begining we get some laughs in its goes slow and at the end an epic battle between korra and tarrlock ten times better then tenzins air bending last episode. was anyone else cheering " go avatar state go avatar state dam it" when korra was put into that truck? xd

my theory now is that tarrlock is amon. its just teh look on his face when korra says he's worse then amon he thinks she's on to him this is what i think tarrlock is using the power he already has to manipulate the bender and non benders to fight against each other as he wants. meanwhile in secert he is playing the role of amon taking away bending using blood bending. as we know there has to be a gene present to bend he's using blood bending to over write that gene. once all benders are gone he'll be the only bender making him the strongest person in the world. another thing that proves this if korra does infact only get this visions in amons presence then tarrlock must be amon.

my prediction for next week korra finds her self locked in the room where the avatar stsues are in the south air temple ( as you need air bending to escape so she won't be able to.) she'll look at the anng staue and start to meditate like tenzin said she'll find anng and talkj to him he will reveal the truth and do to korra what roku did to aang and help her escape and get back. meanwhile tenzin and lin will be looking for korra and other captured people.

I completely thought the opposite, that it proves that Tarrlok isn't Amon (as far as that was even possible). Amon is an incredibly level headed person, so why the hell would he suddenly react like that? Makes absolutely no sense at all, it's in fact the opposite. Till now I just saw Tarrlok as someone who wanted to gain political power in Republic City, but after that reaction and his bloodbending it seems to have a deeper meaning. IMO that look was one of utter disgust, that of all the people in the world that was the one person he would not want to be compared to, not to mention that it wouldn't make much sense that Amon and Tarrlok are the same persons.

Even if there is such a gene, there's a huge difference in bending someone's blood and actually extracting a specific gene. No Amon's bending extraction skill is based on spiritual energy/ki flow or whatever.

That last part doesn't make much sense as how did they get inside then in the first place? Unless you assume that Aang left the door open. Also why would they lock her in a room with the highest possibility to get her into contact with the previous avatars?

Considering they keep showing Sokka in those visions, I'm more inclined to think Tarrlok might be related to Sokka. Tarrlok is a bloodbender and unless the makers really want to troll us (I could accept metal and lightning bending being more widespread, however bloodbending was a secret skill) the reason as why that is must be linked to Katara. There were only two bloodbenders: Hama and Katara and Hama was already an old hag, even though not impossible I doubt she would be the cause, so it must be Katara. Or someone like Sokka could also be the origin as even not being a bender himself, he knows how Katara obtained it. Assuming that those visions are about Yakone, which was 42 years ago, Tarrlok could be Sokka's son, though the age margin is quite small.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

I completely thought the opposite, that it proves that Tarrlok isn't Amon (as far as that was even possible). Amon is an incredibly level headed person, so why the hell would he suddenly react like that? Makes absolutely no sense at all, it's in fact the opposite. Till now I just saw Tarrlok as someone who wanted to gain political power in Republic City, but after that reaction and his bloodbending it seems to have a deeper meaning. IMO that look was one of utter disgust, that of all the people in the world that was the one person he would not want to be compared to, not to mention that it wouldn't make much sense that Amon and Tarrlok are the same persons.

Even if there is such a gene, there's a huge difference in bending someone's blood and actually extracting a specific gene. No Amon's bending extraction skill is based on spiritual energy/ki flow or whatever.

That last part doesn't make much sense as how did they get inside then in the first place? Unless you assume that Aang left the door open. Also why would they lock her in a room with the highest possibility to get her into contact with the previous avatars?

Considering they keep showing Sokka in those visions, I'm more inclined to think Tarrlok might be related to Sokka. Tarrlok is a bloodbender and unless the makers really want to troll us (I could accept metal and lightning bending being more widespread, however bloodbending was a secret skill) the reason as why that is must be linked to Katara. There were only two bloodbenders: Hama and Katara and Hama was already an old hag, even though not impossible I doubt she would be the cause, so it must be Katara. Or someone like Sokka could also be the origin as even not being a bender himself, he knows how Katara obtained it. Assuming that those visions are about Yakone, which was 42 years ago, Tarrlok could be Sokka's son, though the age margin is quite small.

good points. and how would tarrlock know that she could contact the avatars? he some how knows she can't air bend or contact the siprts he stated himself so locking her in that room ( only an air bender could leave and enter and lets assume the door was left open cause i don't think aang closed it xd ) so it would be the perfect place to put her. however tehres the question of how he got there.

and if the man in the flash back is yukone ( a blood bender by the looks of it) and tarrlock as sokkas son why would he use blood bending if a blood bender killed his father? he might be related to yukone if he's not amon.

 

[-Vegeta-]

The episode was epic especially the fight between Korra and Tarrlock.

It's pissing me off though that some of the rarest powers are now common such as metal bending, lightning and now blood bending.

I'm really liking this series so far because it introduces a much more darker side of Avatar than the original series did and I really like that.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

The episode was epic especially the fight between Korra and Tarrlock.

It's pissing me off though that some of the rarest powers are now common such as metal bending, lightning and now blood bending.

I'm really liking this series so far because it introduces a much more darker side of Avatar than the original series did and I really like that.

yup yokone and tarlock can some how know it when hama invented it and only team avatar and the guy from the sourthen riders lived to see it

now here are the flash backs we've seen so far that weren't use images lets try to piece them together
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by the looks of it if we try to place these in order is yakone is on trail he uses blood bending on aang toph and sokka possibly kills sokka and toph aang breaks free by going avatar state and ends yakone.

 

[Boa Hancock]

Maybe collective bending skill level just increased with the passage of time, just like how we could easily solve Pythagorean Theorems if we time travel back to Pythagoras' time.

Anyway, great episode, I didn't like the Makorra hints, and I liked the fact that Amon is NOT Tarlok.

 

[Zlad]

Great episode! I think asami will become evil because of korra and mako

 

[Abysmal.]

This currently the only thing that makes me want to skip a week of my life...

 

[Nave Sky]

It seems to me that the series as a whole is taking the theme they introduced originally in "City of Walls and Secrets" of the original Avatar series and expanding it, which is interesting.

I'm really liking this series so far because it introduces a much more darker side of Avatar than the original series did and I really like that.

Can you elaborate on how you find it's darker though? I'm having trouble making that particular distinction.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

i still hate amon alittle more than tarrlock but of course this may change depending on what atrrlocks up to and what he does with korra ( i doubt rape since its a kid show xd)

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[Lili-Chwan]

It seems to me that the series as a whole is taking the theme they introduced originally in "City of Walls and Secrets" of the original Avatar series and expanding it, which is interesting.



Can you elaborate on how you find it's darker though? I'm having trouble making that particular distinction.

The first series, although speaking about genocide, loss and loneliness, it always did it in a very light hearted way. The enemies was presented to was a solely evil, and the allies were presented to us as solely good, with the exception of Zuko, which was presented to us as confused and in needing of approval from the very start.

This new series now presents to us a world not only more evolved with characters older and more mature it also sinks in a much more deeper and darker morality, where the inexperienced avatar is battling with senses of impotency facing a great danger. Given the previous series, the notion of loosing one's bending abilities is very emotional and scary to use viewers, as bending was presented to us as a beautiful thing and the most supreme form of punishment at the end of the series was taking that away. Now, Equalists ideals are not wrong they're methods are. And everything the Bender society seems to do is just reinforce that. There is this moral line being pushed and pulled by this two sides with Korra being thrown in the middle. This is presented to us very early in the series. And the more we go deeper in this strongly political matter, the more we fail to know who the real bad guys or good guys are. In fact, it culminated in this horrible law where non-benders were incredibly discriminated upon, and the image of that one woman with her children begging for Korra to help them, as she was their Avatar too just made the show so much more mature and dark than it ever was in the first series, for the simple fact that while the Legend of Aang had this dark and mature moments, they were never presented to us this heavily in the very first few episodes.

 

[Nave Sky]

The first series, although speaking about genocide, loss and loneliness, it always did it in a very light hearted way. The enemies was presented to was a solely evil, and the allies were presented to us as solely good, with the exception of Zuko, which was presented to us as confused and in needing of approval from the very start.

This new series now presents to us a world not only more evolved with characters older and more mature it also sinks in a much more deeper and darker morality, where the inexperienced avatar is battling with senses of impotency facing a great danger. Given the previous series, the notion of loosing one's bending abilities is very emotional and scary to use viewers, as bending was presented to us as a beautiful thing and the most supreme form of punishment at the end of the series was taking that away. Now, Equalists ideals are not wrong they're methods are. And everything the Bender society seems to do is just reinforce that. There is this moral line being pushed and pulled by this two sides with Korra being thrown in the middle. This is presented to us very early in the series. And the more we go deeper in this strongly political matter, the more we fail to know who the real bad guys or good guys are. In fact, it culminated in this horrible law where non-benders were incredibly discriminated upon, and the image of that one woman with her children begging for Korra to help them, as she was their Avatar too just made the show so much more mature and dark than it ever was in the first series, for the simple fact that while the Legend of Aang had this dark and mature moments, they were never presented to us this heavily in the very first few episodes.

Still I think there was something much more substantial about the previous series that made it a bit more...adult? Sophisticated? No hate on Legend of Korra at all here it's a very gripping series in it's own right and I approve of it entirely but there's something about it that just can't compare to A:TLA at all. The protagonists there were world explorers observing various cultures, beliefs and practices all the while being chased by an entire army. Life and Death situations were commonplace and the whole struggle was just much more grand or epic on scale. So what I find is interesting is the two different approaches the two series have -- which seem to both be mature in their own ways and have something over the other one. Do you see what I'm trying to say? It's really interesting to compare the two haha

 

[Boa Hancock]

Hmm, they all have their mature and immature moments for me, you two. In all honesty I don't get this hurr durr mature discussion, but I'll bite.

ATLA's atmosphere was one of adventure, yet had mature moments of being in a war, being forced to choose between life and death at a very early age, all while dealing with teenage hormones and instability. A bunch of kids were being relied upon by the world to stop a century-long war, and that to me is a mature theme. However, the Fire Nation also offers some ambiguity, as seen in the Promise part 2.

TLOK on the other hand is one of action. Korra is a sheltered Avatar-in-training who is suddenly exposed to the outside world. She learns how to deal with different kinds of people, when to think and when to act. The values she learned back at her hometown were viciously torn by the vagueness of the values being presented to us by both protagonists and antagonists. Are the Equalists wrong? But they're just protecting non-benders right, albeit in an extreme way. Is the Council right, to mobilize benders and put order among non-benders? But isn't that oppressive, because they're taking away the non-benders freedom?

Ambiguity doesn't mean maturity. In some ways, being definite in your goals is also a mature trait, and that my friends is why I think they're both the way they are.

 

[Lili-Chwan]

Still I think there was something much more substantial about the previous series that made it a bit more...adult? Sophisticated? No hate on Legend of Korra at all here it's a very gripping series in it's own right and I approve of it entirely but there's something about it that just can't compare to A:TLA at all. The protagonists there were world explorers observing various cultures, beliefs and practices all the while being chased by an entire army. Life and Death situations were commonplace and the whole struggle was just much more grand or epic on scale. So what I find is interesting is the two different approaches the two series have -- which seem to both be mature in their own ways and have something over the other one. Do you see what I'm trying to say? It's really interesting to compare the two haha

I see what you're trying to say, and it only serves to further enhance the feeling of darkness. The last series, except Book 3, was much more grand and open, while this one is mostly happening in one city, on it's most confined and marginal places, and at night. The general ambiance is darker, and that allows for more mature and morally controversial feelings and storyline to brew.