Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

who is stronger

  • Hiruzen (3rd Hokage)

    Votes: 239 33.8%
  • Hashirama (1st Hokage)

    Votes: 469 66.2%

  • Total voters
    708
  • Poll closed .

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

The current Kage could destroy Hahirama low to med difficulty

madaras words>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your speculation
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

Thanks people just don't want to accept this fact + rep. Prepare yourself, Everyone is going to come back with the but, but Oro was controlling Hashirama BS.

People fail to realize that Orochimaru made them have intent to kill

Where as Hiruzen was getting emotional about them
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

Are you actually calling madara weak? really?






Had orochimaru + 1st and second been fighting seriously you think hiruzen at 70 would have beat them ? no sir i dont think so +

oonoki vs hiruzen at age 70? if being 70 is so bad

How could they not fight serious since they were being control with intent to kill.....fanboy

And you cant compare Oonoki an Hiruzen
They have 2 diffrent ways of fighting
Plus Oonoki can fly
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

How can they be equal if Hiruzen beat Hashirama already? This is fact and canon, Hiruzen beat Hashirama.

Hiruzen tracked down the two former Hokage and Orohimaru under Hashirama Senju's Bringer-of-Darkness Technique, I don't think even Sharingan could do that.

People fail to realize that Orochimaru made them have intent to kill

Where as Hiruzen was getting emotional about them


I dont get it are you saying thats hashirama and tobiramas strength ? if your saying that then...even yamato and kakashi can beat them..
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

madaras words>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your speculation

You being a fanboy=No logic
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

madaras words>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your speculation

Madara didn't fight Hiruzen. He would be saying the same thing or more if he would have fought good old Saru.
 

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How could they not fight serious since they were being control with intent to kill.....fanboy

And you cant compare Oonoki an Hiruzen
They have 2 diffrent ways of fighting
Plus Oonoki can fly

ill have you know i defend both...+ gtfo if you think thats all their strength ...an edo can have the intent to kill...if they dont use their best attacks its quite pointless really isnt it? had they had the intent to kill as you said when B.O.D was activated hiruzen would have been dead
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

The current Kage could destroy Hahirama low to med difficulty

You are joking right, the current kages are all weak compared to pervious generations. Hashirama is the only one who can defeat Madara. All 5 kages now are struggling against Madara he wasn't even going all out.
 

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I dont get it are you saying thats hashirama and tobiramas strength ? if your saying that then...even yamato and kakashi can beat them..

That was Hashirama's and tobirama's strength, at least for the first part. That tells you the gap in power between Hashirama and Sarutobi. Madara never saw Hiruzen fight, that's why he can't comment on him.
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

Madara didn't fight Hiruzen. He would be saying the same thing or more if he would have fought good old Saru.

if madara fought hiruzen then hiruzen wouldve never even fought edo shodai and edo tobirama.
 

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Had orochimaru + 1st and second been fighting seriously you think hiruzen at 70 would have beat them ? no sir i dont think so +

oonoki vs hiruzen at age 70? if being 70 is so bad
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It doesn't change the fact that Hiruzen, even thou he died, technically won against two previous Kages and a Sannin. I say he technically won since he prevented the destruction of Konoha. Who esle at the age of 70 could have done that, nobody.

And by the way, oonoki is no match for Hiruzen. That was already stated in the manga.
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

You know what's weird. It took the whole village to keep Kurama out of the village during the attack. But Hashirama can treat Kurama like a beat and also other Bijuus too. He had them like pets lol. Hiruzen's feats don't compare to that.
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

You know what's weird. It took the whole village to keep Kurama out of the village during the attack. But Hashirama can treat Kurama like a beat and also other Bijuus too. He had them like pets lol. Hiruzen's feats don't compare to that.

Hashirama is taming the beasts while Hiruzen is pushing away Kurama. It's two different things, I doubt Hashirama and EMS Madara could physically pushed away Coomplete Kurama.
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

You know what's weird. It took the whole village to keep Kurama out of the village during the attack. But Hashirama can treat Kurama like a beat and also other Bijuus too. He had them like pets lol. Hiruzen's feats don't compare to that.

What does controlling the Bijuu has to do with Hashirama being stronger than Hiruzen? That was a special ability that hashi had. Unless he fights Hiruzen with a Bijuu, Hashirama has nothing on Hiruzen as demonstrated during the chunnin exams.
 

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Re: Hiruzen hype and Hashirama hype

That was Hashirama's and tobirama's strength, at least for the first part. That tells you the gap in power between Hashirama and Sarutobi. Madara never saw Hiruzen fight, that's why he can't comment on him.

all the posts you did state hiruzen > everyone else?
+ how old was hiruzen when nagato was born cuz if i remember correctly madara should have lived till he was born
 
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