Firstly, i didnt underestimate him - i know hes strong and have repeated it multiple times
Secondly - Kabuto isn't a 'fragment' of oro - he used oro's research and abilities as a base to improve upon and became a LOT stronger than him
I never once questioned his strength, and i said very logically in the OP that he didnt deserve his hype because others are comparatively stronger than him. In part 1 he uses edo - in part 2 the only tech. matching up to edo is 8 branch - which we know (thanks to itachi) he already had before shipp - therefore he didnt make any improvements to himself over the time skip.
There is no manga Chapter anywhere of Oro fighting A for E.g. so how am i supposed to prove that lmao, its like a vs thread to do that!
yeah u didnt read - i posted his good attributes as well
I think you either lack the intelligence to comprehend what has been explained to you or too stubborn in your ways. What "hype" does he not deserve exactly??? YOu explain how he demonstrated the same abilites the he possessed in part 1, which displayed how he didnt grow (improve). But how many shinobi havent?? Gai is using gates which he always had, Itachi used abilites the he possessed in part 1, Minato must be weak in comparsion too from what he have seen, the list can continue on on who could have displayed what they possessed in part 1. WE DONT KNOW!! The fact is we dont know what anyone possessed from part 1 to 2 except those the grew UP infront of us, Orochi is no different. Even if he did possess the same abilites, WITH all we've seen it's still enough to easily place him in top 15.
You seem to flaw his immortaliy as it puts him in a weakened state, but any non-sharingan user wouldnt be able to counter his ritual, let alone avoid his poison. SO, yes he may be a in weakened state at this point but still is able to defeat many STRONG shinobi at this time. Sasuke was put in a situation that he couldnt defend himself, if Orochi didnt want to possess his body, he would have easilt killed him. Overall, this weakened state could still pawn most shinobi at any point, as anyone could be hit with the poison and taken as a host.
Lastly, you seem to forget that he was the main (only villain) in part 1 and surprisingly made it to part 2. Now, as we alll know his time had to come to an end eventually as Kish likes to show how generations improve and orochi's time was up. This left his student Kabuto, who has only improved thru SM. As experiments was something Orochi always used on himself, hell you saw his true form. We dont know how many Edo he could use at once, besides the obvious three he tried to use. Kabuto still needed HIS chakra in order to use the army he has now and the only difference between their Edo is the mind control. The power between the Edo is no difference, Orochi perfected it but as the power scales were different, the use of Edo was different. How the hell can you compare the two????
achievement; he achieved a lot, probably the most aside from main characters. Perfected Edo, Killed his former master, had his own village (in a sense), was immortal, got thru to Kabuto, knew about Tobi's identity, had an idea about the relation on Rinnegan, used the 1st DNA, etc. How many people have accomplshed as much as he had.
techniques; from what we've seen he possess wind release which he could have had different jutsu revolving around that, Edo that was perfected and could use three with his own chakra and possibly more, 8 branch technique which would own most shinobi still, Manda, his sword the extends as long as ever and can cut thru diamonds, three gates the still took tbb so anything less powerful it fail, immortality, the ability to merge with the environment.....the list goes and goes
Orochi with everything seen WILL beats; Kakashi, Gai, Garra, Deiadara, A
Orochi CAN beat; Minato, Kisame, Sasori, Bee, Sasuke MS
Orochi cant beat: Nagato, Tobi, Itachi, Naruto, 1st Hokage
the fact is you fail to comprehend this is a story, plot cant have someone sole thru the series the entire time and just own. Orochi is underrated and should be recieving credit, yet you take it away without making any logical claims at all. This have proven you as a troll and should recieve nothing but -rep.
