I thought the main goal of a Uchiha was to try and steal asmuch eyeballs and DNA as possible? That's the only way they can get stronger in the first place lol
People really seem to be leaping all over this Senju DNA thing tho i mean ok to Madara did it.....and Tobi, but thats all just two people (one of which may not even be a real Uchiha)
Ok now this may very well have been covered in the past but im gonna go with it anyway!
What if the Uchiha have always been in on this? Now it sounds stupid because the clan was destroyed right? But heres the thing! The tablet hidden under the Uchiha compound reveals more information as greater levels of the Sharingan are unlocked.
Normal (Some), MS (More), EMS (maybe more?), Rinnegan (A lot more)
Now the clan used this tablet to obtain MS and it has been used several times since!
Now heres where I start trying to get to my point lol
Madara felt the clan was being pushed into a state of control under the Senju and tried to rally his people. Unfortunately they rejected him and he left, he would later challenge the 1st Hokage to a fight to the death at the Valley Of The End where he would:
1: Lose!
2: Obtain the Rinnegan
He must have then at some point gone back to read the tablet, now either he snuck in or the clan just kept it a secret (given he had just tried to kill the Hokage).
Later Tobi would release the Kyubi killing Minato and Kushina! This increased the distrust between Khonoha and the Uchiha as the Uchiha were considered the only ones able to control the Kyubi in its released form (plus the sharingan in the eye of the Kyubi probably didn’t help). Also all the Uchiha were mysteriously absent from the efforts to repel the 9 tails.
(Itachi notes the absence of his parents)
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(No Visible Sign Of Kagami Uchiha)
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This meant the Uchiha were relocated to the edge of town so they could be monitored more easily.
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At this point the Uchiha Clan apparently click and realise Madara was right all along, they then start making ‘plans’ apparently to overthrow the leaf. All Uchiha’s were required to attend the secret meetings to plan their take over, however Itachi had recently become distant since joining ANBU and so his best friend (and also a member of root) was tasked with watching over him, this would be Shisui Uchiha. Technically being so close to Itachi would also make him a potential threat to the clan. These two apparently never attended another secret Uchiha meeting as noted by members of the Uchiha police force.
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Itachi’s father also urged Sasuke not to follow in his brothers footsteps, perhaps he didn’t mean in terms of power (as assumed) but more in his lack of loyalty to the clan?
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Now ALOT of people have complained that the Uchiha didn’t put up much of a fight when Itachi came with death by his side to cut every Uchiha young and old down. Some have said that he had help from Tobi, but I put it to you! What if dying was the plan?
The Uchiha had rejected all attempts at reconciliation made by the Third, they knew they had been found out so why push ahead anyway?? Also what are the chances that every single Uchiha would have been home on that one night? (None on missions, none at the various Uchiha outposts...none even on holiday!)
Perhaps they just sat back and let Itachi do what they suspected someone or a group might be ordered to do!
Now all this isn’t as insane as out sounds, I mean Madara’s plan was to be resurrected and think! If you know your old leader was right what’s the first thing you’re going to try and do? You’re going to try and make contact with him and apologize (like Apple did with Steve Jobs XD).
You’d say “we were wrong; please what do we do now?”Perhaps they died so they could be brought back at the opportune moment! After all!
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“You Cannot Cast Genjutsu on someone that uses the same eyes” right? The Moons Eye is no threat to an Uchiha, which would place their clan at the top of the world and the true victors of the Senju/Uchiha conflict.
Of course they probably didn’t bank on Itachi sparing anyone, so Sasuke would be considered collateral damage at this point. Also if Shisui wasn’t a traitor to the clan he may have even used Kotoamatsukami on either Itachi convincing him to destroy the clan or on Danzo (when he took the eye) to place the order for the clans destruction. Finally Tobi has all those Sharingan, why? perhaps you need apart of the person to resurrect them like with Edo?
Well those are my thoughts!!!, let me know what you think,
(Aaaaaaand cue the flaming! Lol, oh and the people who won’t read because it’s too long for them)
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Yo! I finally finished reading... (I'm not feeling like reading XP). And it might work except for a detail that bothers me: Edo tensei. At the time, Uchihas only knew that Tobirama created it and -probably- Oro could use it. But they didn't actually know (I pressume) its limits (since Kabuto stated that he can control a larger amount of ppl with edo that his antecesors). So my guess is that they couldn't possibly know bout Kabuto's upgrade, and also I'm not sure if Izanagi can work that way. If that's the case, wouldn't it be easier to go back to Konoha's foundation? Idk, maybe I'm saying nosense...
But good work researching and documenting... Are ya a kind of science student or something? (if not, you would probably success there)...
P.S. Are you paranoid? This sounds like that theory of conspiracy in wich ppl believe that the richest/strongest ppl in power control the universe...
Anyway, I liked your theory, you should write a story or something.
Well while Itachi tortures Sasuke you see his mum and dad taking no action to prevent Itachi's attack. I mean their father was the head of the clan which normally also means one of the strongest, its a little odd. But that was just wording im certain they put up an act atleast! even Itachi would be concerned if there was absolutely no resistance lol
Not to Discredit your theory, only providing a little bit of clarity on this small matter. The reason that they did not fight back, is because it was unexpected. I believe probably due to mass Genjutsu influence,(Tsukiyomi) also, what Sasuke was being shown, wasn't what actually happened I think, more like a vague collage showing all of the Uchiha dying. The entranced way they walked to Sasuke, then died/bled/fell over on him was to force the trauma on Sasuke's mind and overload him into collapse. Helping add to the reason to hate Itachi and make him chase after the power to defeat him.
Not to Discredit your theory, only providing a little bit of clarity on this small matter. The reason that they did not fight back, is because it was unexpected. I believe probably due to mass Genjutsu influence,(Tsukiyomi) also, what Sasuke was being shown, wasn't what actually happened I think, more like a vague collage showing all of the Uchiha dying. The entranced way they walked to Sasuke, then died/bled/fell over on him was to force the trauma on Sasuke's mind and overload him into collapse. Helping add to the reason to hate Itachi and make him chase after the power to defeat him.
To be honest what we were shown of what Sasuke was shown wasnt even the full amount so no conclusing can be drawn from it really. The Uchiha would have fought back even if it was only a show, they were an elite clan its nonsense to think that a surprise attack would be enough to kill them all.
Every clan has their own senturies around their compound to keep out attackers and opportunists. After all the Sharingan is very valuable so they wouldnt leave themselves open.
Perhaps Itachi may have gotten the first few by stealth but someone would have caught on eventually and raised the alarm. Itachi's mum and dad would not have gone down so easily as to be killed in their bedroom without even reacting, they already suspected Itachi to begin with.
Itachi is said to have had training from Tobi to wipe out the clan, however if the Uchiha had already been in contact with him then he would have informed them of the time and date of the attack so they would have known.
We all know Sasuke was tortured for dramatic effect to increase his hate, but I ask anyone to show me one time Itachi has used this fabled Mass Tsukiyomi that everyone seems to reference in regards to the massacre. Personally ive only ever seen him use it on one person at any one time.
To be honest what we were shown of what Sasuke was shown wasnt even the full amount so no conclusing can be drawn from it really. The Uchiha would have fought back even if it was only a show, they were an elite clan its nonsense to think that a surprise attack would be enough to kill them all.
Every clan has their own senturies around their compound to keep out attackers and opportunists. After all the Sharingan is very valuable so they wouldnt leave themselves open.
Perhaps Itachi may have gotten the first few by stealth but someone would have caught on eventually and raised the alarm. Itachi's mum and dad would not have gone down so easily as to be killed in their bedroom without even reacting, they already suspected Itachi to begin with.
Itachi is said to have had training from Tobi to wipe out the clan, however if the Uchiha had already been in contact with him then he would have informed them of the time and date of the attack so they would have known.
We all know Sasuke was tortured for dramatic effect to increase his hate, but I ask anyone to show me one time Itachi has used this fabled Mass Tsukiyomi that everyone seems to reference in regards to the massacre. Personally ive only ever seen him use it on one person at any one time.
I agree it seems really fishy, but I think certain targets were probably killed in certain order, his dad probably first to go. I believe (not sure) that Tobi actually physically helped him too. Idk on that one though, either way I think you're right it smells fishy.
Maybe Itachi and Tobi blackmailed each other. If Itachi told anybody the secrets of the Uchiha's plan, than he would capture Sasuke and possibly do damage to the leaf. In term, Itachi might have kept Sasuke alive and told him to awaken the MS because he wanted Sasuke to hold the power to defeat Tobi in the future (he somewhat hinted at this too).
Nah not gonna happen X_X I like your theory though, hope it turns out to be something like that.
NIce imagination and reasoning ....
It would be epic to see All Uchiha's stands together at the end of war with Madara against all other shinobies...
If that happens, to whome Sasuke will support ??
I really wants to end this war as Senju vs Uchiha again. Senju is leaded by Naruto and Uchiha will leaded by Sasuke. Only probleme is that where the hell all Senjus are gone ?? Were they jumped in a black hole ?? We know only one senju now Tsunade.
NIce imagination and reasoning ....
It would be epic to see All Uchiha's stands together at the end of war with Madara against all other shinobies...
If that happens, to whome Sasuke will support ??
I really wants to end this war as Senju vs Uchiha again. Senju is leaded by Naruto and Uchiha will leaded by Sasuke. Only probleme is that where the hell all Senjus are gone ?? Were they jumped in a black hole ?? We know only one senju now Tsunade.
Where are the Senju's? lol, the entire leaf village is Senju. The Hokage's were just the strongest of them. But every ninja clan in the leaf village is Senju. But I think Naruto's Father was the closest relative along with Tsunade.
Dude all your threads are "Gold". such great theories, but no, this one is wayyy too farfetched even for me. Maybe thats why it has a good chance of coming true. I want to speculate with you about your old thread, the one about the Sharingan terrible cursed blood soaked destiny being a derivation of the juubi itself.
uchiahs werent evil. they wanted to stop danzo and the other two elders from fuking them over any longer and trampling on their rights. they fought for their own freedom against corruption and the databook explains fugaku isnt evil but hes just loyal and strict