Was Kurama a hindrance to Madara?

[TobisPawn]

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Seriously, I'm starting to disbelieve the fact that Hashirama beat Madara. What if Madara had trouble focusing on controlling Kurama (Minato stated that controlling him requires a decent amount of chakra) and couldn't fight to his full potential? Then, when Kurama was restrained, things must have gotten even worse, with Mito (POSSIBLY) being there as backup.

But seriously, how the hell did Madara lose with that Susanoo? Maybe too much chakra and time went towards controlling Kurama? I just find it hard to believe that Hashirama actually one.

 

[-S-]

Nah. Kurama would have been important for Madara's arsenal

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

who knows? we just gotta wait and see...cuz most of the time when we assume things are gunna be like "this" they usually end up like "that"

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Remember that this edo Madara is showing both his and Hashi's skills. He as able to create a forest full of sleep powder flowers with seconds. That would be enough to at least hold off Madara's giant Susanoo. I can see it being a fight worthy enough to create valley of the end.

 

[abodi mohi]

yeah true

 

[Yuffosan]

Don't continue unless you've read the most recent chapter!

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Seriously, I'm starting to disbelieve the fact that Hashirama beat Madara. What if Madara had trouble focusing on controlling Kurama (Minato stated that controlling him requires a decent amount of chakra) and couldn't fight to his full potential? Then, when Kurama was restrained, things must have gotten even worse, with Mito (POSSIBLY) being there as backup.

But seriously, how the hell did Madara lose with that Susanoo? Maybe too much chakra and time went towards controlling Kurama? I just find it hard to believe that Hashirama actually one.

Who's Mito? And I'm sure an Edo Hashirama is just as messed up as Edo Madara.

 

[Nine]

He didn't really want to beat Hashirama. Kurama was just used as a distraction so that Madara could obtain the Shodai's power. We really are kept in the dark on what Madara's true purpose was in VoTE.

 

[zamki]

Who's Mito? And I'm sure an Edo Hashirama is just as messed up as Edo Madara.

mito is the first jinchuriki of kurama.wife of hashirama

 

[Naruto the wind]

I dont blame u for stupid question though its kishis fault he forget abt senjus and hyuga all he did is highlighting uchiha clan even now

 

[Solo]

Good question... My guess:

Tobi can't use the paths power while controlling the Jinchurikis, so probably Madara couldn't use his full power while controlling The Nine-Tails.

Remember though, Hashirama could control all the tailed-beast. So a better question would be did Hashirama have any tailed beast or were they already given out to each village by the time Hashi and Madara fought.

 

[Midday]

Madara's concentration and chakra were probably being used to keep the 9 tails in check, also it's likely that Hashirama released the 9 tails and it turned on Madara.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Madara lost because his susano could easily be restrained and get it's chakra suppressed by Hashiramas Mokuton.

And yes, Hashirama would not have won if Mito wasn't there to serve as host for Kyuubi.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

I dont blame u for stupid question though its kishis fault he forget abt senjus and hyuga all he did is highlighting uchiha clan even now

So Madara fighting with only Hashi's wood jutsu early on wasn't showing off Hashi's, the strongest Senju's, power?

 

[Lord Goku]

kishi likes to troll dose kishi relly think with some woods u can win against madara

 

[Baka Sennin]

1. This perfect susanoo is a RINNEGAN ability. go back and check the last page, he activated his normal susanoo with the ems, and the final version (like sasuke's and itachi's) shouldnt be any bigger. but this one was activated with the rinnegan

2. this madara is edo madara ie fast regenerating chakra, and his chakra is boosted by hashirama's dna, so ems madara would be much weaker. if ems madara could spam mokuton clones with just a small face, imagine what actual hashirama could do.

 

[medal32]

I dont really see how a bijuu would be a hinderance

 

[cmilius]

Hashi has wood, water and earth, master in genjutsu, taijutsu, ninjutsu, the highest chakra level no doubt because kekei genkai took alot of chakra to use. Knows what uchiha capable of because tobi said even the uchiha clan feared hashi, Madara hashirama edo rinnegan combine with the ems perfect susano can be stop by mud style jiraiya jutsu not to mention hashi mokuton.

 

[Naruto the wind]

So Madara fighting with only Hashi's wood jutsu early on wasn't showing off Hashi's, the strongest

thats the one time only .last time i check its uchiha clan is the clan get masscared not senjus but what we are seeing now itachi owning kabuto madara owning kages and tobi almost owning naruto and co. Oh man where the hell are senjus when u need one

 

[Blaze Release]

Ive already stated that madara knowing him well is an idiot and took the wrong move and lost. It was said that he had fought hashirama with the ms several times and drew. With the ems which only boosts the ms abilities he should be stronger and i believe that was the case. He made the mistake of thinking power is the only thing that determines a fight and went to further length when he took control of the fox, that was his mistake.

Controlling a tailed beasts is said to take quiet a bit of concentration, but also limits the user to an extent, or the fox did his best to resist it and that couldve further hindered madara and i believe this was the mistake madara did;

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The greater mistake was when he tried to it against hashirama who not only had the ability to suppress tailed beast chakra but also had a number under his control, certain his ability with tailed beasts surpasses the sharingan/ms or ems.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Another one...
Yes Madara fanboy, Madara made a mistake bringing weak Kyuubi, Hashirama snapped his fingers and it was his, Mito snapped his fingers and Kyuubi was sealed, then Hashirama magically won but at the same time lost to Madara.