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[sWAy253]

Gai trumps Kakashi in raw power, endurance and overall physically however what he lacks in his physical nature he makes up for his mental capacity (intelligence) and his overall balance as a shinobi.

If you look at in terms of a shinobi who is the better? My vote goes to Kakashi. What I mean is, Kakashi is an overall well rounded shinobi. His ninjutsu game is perhaps one of
the best in the series. He doesn't have too many of those special OP skills but he has perhaps the largest and most versitile arsonal of techniques we've seen. Kamui is probably his only over the top technique which gives him the edge in a fight but Kakashi has something for just about everything we've seen. His range of techniques is great.

His taijutsu game up there too. There isn't one doubt in my mind that Kakashi can keep up with the skill levels of any shinobi, Lee and Gai included in a taijutsu fight pre-gates of course.

Genjutsu, his Sharingan gives him the advantage in that allowing him to see through it for the most part, we've seen little of his abilities in genjutsu but from what we have seen and what the data tells us, he's above average in that category.

On a physical plain Kakashi isn't even that bad either. He's definately quick and he's strong, I mean he's still relatively young, what early 30s.

Kakashi is more rounded then Gai is as a shinobi.
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What Gai has though is a level of raw brute strength that shatters charts and that's the only thing that will keep him even considered on the same plain or greater then Kakashi for some.

But there's a thing about the gates people don't understand which affects Gai's endurance and stamina. Gai is long lasting without the gates, the gates strain him and he can only sustain them himself for approximately a few minutes. It's like Naruto in Sage Mode. He's left exhausted after that so just saying Gates, Gates, Gates like Gai can do that all day everyday is false.
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In my view, they're how they've always been portrayed in the series, as equal rivals. People who keep insisting that people who say Kakashi> or even = to Gai are fanboys but lets that's their own fanboism talking for looking only at power level. Those who are stuck on the Gai>>>>Kakashi because of Gates obviously forget how Kakashi fights. Against a guy like Pein, who Kakashi had vastly inferior info on then Gai, used a clone from the get go to determine his abilities and potentially weaken him. What makes people believe that Kakashi will fight guy, a close personal friend of his for several years who he's fought, and fought along side of, head on.

Gai insists he knows how to fight against a Sharingan user by looking at their feet, but that's defensive on how to avoid genjutsu and for somebody like him that's good, but you can't block out the Sharingan's perception. Everthing Kakashi sees with his eyes he can predict his opponents move. Non-gate enhanced Kakashi can keep up with Gai no problem with standard Sharingan perception. Gai has nothing to deal with blocking the visionary perception of the Sharingan like Zabuza. Gai's skills in Ninjutsu are below jounin standards. He has one technqiue we've seen. As for his genjutsu abilities, Gai can release non dojutsu genjutsu and knows how to avoid dojutsu based gen at Kakashi's level.

Gai needs Gates to defeat the arsonal of ninjutsu, and superior skill Kakashi has over him in all fields of the shinobi with the exception of Taijutsu. When Gai passes the third Gate he's stepping bounds past Kakashi then, however, even if Kakashi doesn't have the speed at that time to keep up with Gai, Kakashi has the intelligance enough to avoid Gai for the durration of the time he's in the gates.

What plays to Kakashi's disadvantage is his level of chakra. When Gai is going beyond 4 or 5 Gates Kakashi's going to be blowing through everything he has just to avoid any sort of contact with Gai and defending. Kakashi will be on the defense at that time because there's very little Kakashi can do to harm him, with the exception of Kamui which requies visual sight of his opponent. Kakashi's not wasing Kamui like Naruto blows through his chakra, because he doesn't have the reserves for it. By the time Gai is rearing his end of his Gates, he's going to be just as, if not more so exhausted then Kakashi and at that time both shinobi will be fighting on will power.

Kakashi fights smart and has the versitility of skills. Gai fights strong and hard and he has the reserves to break through physical barriers. The two are Yin and Yang you have The Yin (Kakashi) balancing the Yang (Gai) and both shinobi are equals...

Oh and Kakashi's fighting ****ing Bijuu right now, give this guys some credit for ballz people.

I read the whole thing and I have to say that you hit right on the head!! +rep
I couldn't have said it any better. Good job!!

 

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kakashi
always wins all the challanges
even the paper rock sissors w/o the sharigan

 

[asad70ful]

Gai trumps Kakashi in raw power, endurance and overall physically however what he lacks in his physical nature he makes up for his mental capacity (intelligence) and his overall balance as a shinobi.

If you look at in terms of a shinobi who is the better? My vote goes to Kakashi. What I mean is, Kakashi is an overall well rounded shinobi. His ninjutsu game is perhaps one of
the best in the series. He doesn't have too many of those special OP skills but he has perhaps the largest and most versitile arsonal of techniques we've seen. Kamui is probably his only over the top technique which gives him the edge in a fight but Kakashi has something for just about everything we've seen. His range of techniques is great.

His taijutsu game up there too. There isn't one doubt in my mind that Kakashi can keep up with the skill levels of any shinobi, Lee and Gai included in a taijutsu fight pre-gates of course.

Genjutsu, his Sharingan gives him the advantage in that allowing him to see through it for the most part, we've seen little of his abilities in genjutsu but from what we have seen and what the data tells us, he's above average in that category.

On a physical plain Kakashi isn't even that bad either. He's definately quick and he's strong, I mean he's still relatively young, what early 30s.

Kakashi is more rounded then Gai is as a shinobi.
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What Gai has though is a level of raw brute strength that shatters charts and that's the only thing that will keep him even considered on the same plain or greater then Kakashi for some.

But there's a thing about the gates people don't understand which affects Gai's endurance and stamina. Gai is long lasting without the gates, the gates strain him and he can only sustain them himself for approximately a few minutes. It's like Naruto in Sage Mode. He's left exhausted after that so just saying Gates, Gates, Gates like Gai can do that all day everyday is false.
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In my view, they're how they've always been portrayed in the series, as equal rivals. People who keep insisting that people who say Kakashi> or even = to Gai are fanboys but lets that's their own fanboism talking for looking only at power level. Those who are stuck on the Gai>>>>Kakashi because of Gates obviously forget how Kakashi fights. Against a guy like Pein, who Kakashi had vastly inferior info on then Gai, used a clone from the get go to determine his abilities and potentially weaken him. What makes people believe that Kakashi will fight guy, a close personal friend of his for several years who he's fought, and fought along side of, head on.

Gai insists he knows how to fight against a Sharingan user by looking at their feet, but that's defensive on how to avoid genjutsu and for somebody like him that's good, but you can't block out the Sharingan's perception. Everthing Kakashi sees with his eyes he can predict his opponents move. Non-gate enhanced Kakashi can keep up with Gai no problem with standard Sharingan perception. Gai has nothing to deal with blocking the visionary perception of the Sharingan like Zabuza. Gai's skills in Ninjutsu are below jounin standards. He has one technqiue we've seen. As for his genjutsu abilities, Gai can release non dojutsu genjutsu and knows how to avoid dojutsu based gen at Kakashi's level.

Gai needs Gates to defeat the arsonal of ninjutsu, and superior skill Kakashi has over him in all fields of the shinobi with the exception of Taijutsu. When Gai passes the third Gate he's stepping bounds past Kakashi then, however, even if Kakashi doesn't have the speed at that time to keep up with Gai, Kakashi has the intelligance enough to avoid Gai for the durration of the time he's in the gates.

What plays to Kakashi's disadvantage is his level of chakra. When Gai is going beyond 4 or 5 Gates Kakashi's going to be blowing through everything he has just to avoid any sort of contact with Gai and defending. Kakashi will be on the defense at that time because there's very little Kakashi can do to harm him, with the exception of Kamui which requies visual sight of his opponent. Kakashi's not wasing Kamui like Naruto blows through his chakra, because he doesn't have the reserves for it. By the time Gai is rearing his end of his Gates, he's going to be just as, if not more so exhausted then Kakashi and at that time both shinobi will be fighting on will power.

Kakashi fights smart and has the versitility of skills. Gai fights strong and hard and he has the reserves to break through physical barriers. The two are Yin and Yang you have The Yin (Kakashi) balancing the Yang (Gai) and both shinobi are equals...

Oh and Kakashi's fighting ****ing Bijuu right now, give this guys some credit for ballz people.

+rep i read all and like it
but i wanna tell u that kakashi can also open only 2 gates,these 2 gates r in ur brain,he used these 2 gates when he was teaching sasuke chidor part 1

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

There's not much adaption required in terms of using the gates. What the gates do is break the barriers on one's physical restriction in their body. There is no need to adept much to that with the exception of the conditions that follow after the gates power has ended and re-establish. That would be the only real need for adeptions.

As it stands Kakashi has at least one gate, even though it's one it's something. If Kakashi had the stamina of a normal person, enough to use at least a quarter of his techniques in a single fight without dying, he could definately defeat Gai. If Kakashi had enough to sustain Gates? Kakashi would be one of the strongest characters in the entire series and blow right pas Gai but that's not the case.



Well you shouldn't because by an intelligent person wouldn't go head first into Afternoon Tiger like that. You just said Kakashi was intelligent. xd

How do you conclude that the two characters are going to duke it like Naruto and Sasuke, use their strongest attacks against each other? Kakashi fights smart meaning he's going to try to avoid Afternoon Tiger if that comes into play, either avoid or prevent it and counter.

He could try to avoid it but the range of afternoon tiger is to wide i'd love to see him do that even yamato,bee, naruto felt the after-shock of it from a good distance he's be better warping it lmao.

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Even might gai admitted to afternoon tiger having a wide rage

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The man been studying kakashi his whole life and even figured a way to counter the sharingans genjutsu as where kakashi wasn't even clever enough to figure that out and even asking gai later on for tips

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Like I said he knows Kakashi like the back of his hands he knows his limit he's reading him like a book.

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He wouldn't be able to put guy in a genjutsu because he knows the genjutsu deflection technique.

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Even though guy isn't a all around ninja like kakashi his taijutsu specialized technique are impressive, to turn Taijutsu into Air(Similar to wind) & Fire attacks. Kakashi doesn't have enough chakra to be busting out his

So lets put it like this

1. Genjutsu wouldn't work

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3. Earth element wouldn't help

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4. Water element wouldn't work he repels water with the 6 & 7 gate

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5 . If air pressure has similar property like wind then most like lightning wouldn't work

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6. Kakashi himself stated stamina is his weakness he isn't beating guy in that department

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7. Speed nope

8. Strength nope

9. Chakra nope

Gai has the bigger advantage here intelligence or not even guy himself was smart enough to know kakashi couldn't warp 5 bijuu balls when kakashi thought he could.

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[hatakii kakashii]

kakashi > gai
he s a genius has access to 8 gates has 1000 jutsus and on top of that the most op mangekyou sharingan technique kamui and do not forget kakashi s chakra has improved a lot i cant see gai winning against someone like kakashi

 

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He could try to avoid it but the range of afternoon tiger is to wide i'd love to see him do that even yamato,bee, naruto felt the after-shock of it from a good distance he's be better warping it lmao.

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Even might gai admitted to afternoon tiger having a wide rage

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The man been studying kakashi his whole life and even figured a way to counter the sharingans genjutsu as where kakashi wasn't even clever enough to figure that out and even asking gai later on for tips

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Like I said he knows Kakashi like the back of his hands he knows his limit he's reading him like a book.

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He wouldn't be able to put guy in a genjutsu because he knows the genjutsu deflection technique.

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Even though guy isn't a all around ninja like kakashi his taijutsu specialized technique are impressive, to turn Taijutsu into Air(Similar to wind) & Fire attacks. Kakashi doesn't have enough chakra to be busting out his

So lets put it like this

1. Genjutsu wouldn't work

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2. Sharingan counter

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3. Earth element wouldn't help

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4. Water element wouldn't work he repels water with the 6 & 7 gate

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5 . If air pressure has similar property like wind then most like lightning wouldn't work

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6. Kakashi himself stated stamina is his weakness he isn't beating guy in that department

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7. Speed nope

8. Strength nope

9. Chakra nope

Gai has the bigger advantage here intelligence or not even guy himself was smart enough to know kakashi couldn't warp 5 bijuu balls when kakashi thought he could.

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that's what it is people. Respect!

 

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kakashi > gai
he s a genius has access to 8 gates has 1000 jutsus and on top of that the most op mangekyou sharingan technique kamui and do not forget kakashi s chakra has improved a lot i cant see gai winning against someone like kakashi

Kakashi can only use 1 or 2 gates plus kakashi can't lock kamui on guy with opened gates as a power house guy is way to much, Guy even admitted to be able to win against kakashi

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[darthvader5666]

8th gate Guy could probably beat Kakashi. Then again, 8th gate would kill him, meaning it would technically be a tie. 7th gate, not sure. Remember, the reason he owned Kisame was not because he was way above Kisame's tier but coz a) Kisame didn't have Samehada and b) Guy was a terrible match-up for Kisame.