Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments
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spokentruth
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Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi
Other Uchiha=3tomoe did i name any of the people u just named no So try again
purewesome
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Although the reincarnated retain their original memories and personalities, thus leaving them out of the control of Orochimaru. However, he can suppress their free wills with his own special seal to force them to do his bidding.
thus limiting there ability + as i already told kishi might not have though this much plot as its been almost 8 years from that incident
and this is about kabuto's edo tensai
kabuto applied a seal on the corpses that doesn't completely rob them of their free will, but still controls their body movement against their will — a seal different from the one Orochimaru used.
if kabuto summoned 1st and 2nd i bet they are 100% more stronger than oro
its fine i just checked in naruto wiki it stated something like tis about oro's Edo tensaity for proving my point
Although the reincarnated retain their original memories and personalities, thus leaving them out of the control of Orochimaru. However, he can suppress their free wills with his own special seal to force them to do his bidding.
thus limiting there ability + as i already told kishi might not have though this much plot as its been almost 8 years from that incident
and this is about kabuto's edo tensai
kabuto applied a seal on the corpses that doesn't completely rob them of their free will, but still controls their body movement against their will — a seal different from the one Orochimaru used.
if kabuto summoned 1st and 2nd i bet they are 100% more stronger than oro
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purewesome
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u cant base who is strong just on peoples opinion U_U see J- man loves minato and naruto and he said good things about them and thought they are strongest where as many other people who are stronger then him are aroud
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And even at his old age 69 he was the strongest Kage so he is stronger than A and Oonki.
He was said to be the strongest Hokage ever so he's better than Minato and Hashirama. Kakashi trembled in fear when he saw Orochimaru are you really comparing him to the third and Guy is always hinted to be as strong as Kakashi.
And even at his old age 69 he was the strongest Kage so he is stronger than A and Oonki.
spokentruth
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Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi
"Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of all"
"It was said he was the strongest of the 5kages"
Meaning he was the strongest of the 5kages even in his old Age.
did you Start the Manga half way through or something?.
"Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of all"
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"It was said he was the strongest of the 5kages"
Meaning he was the strongest of the 5kages even in his old Age.
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spokentruth
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But he's still not the strongest Shinobi ever
+rep 4 the Manga pages but both of them was coming from such weaklings Kabuto and Iruka But i wont be a Bitch about the situation
But he's still not the strongest Shinobi ever
Kirikoe
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u follow the manga to blindly without looking into it more, he was said to be the strongest yes , but the third himself also said that iruka was speaking in past tense meaning a time where minato wasnt born and when the sannin were young and the previous kages had died so obviously at the time there was no one better than him
purewesome
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dude its funny the people who talked 3rd being strong are all new generation who dont have any idea of how strong other or old kages are how can u expect iruka or kakashi to know how strong 1st is ??? as madara himself said 5kages have no idea how large scale there battle(1st and madara) is belive me he is not just saying
Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi
(Meaning 5kages at the time he Died).
He just said don't talk about the Past Tense. (when he was in his prime).
Meaning In the past when he was in his prime, So in the past He was said to be the strongest.
Even in his old age he was said to be the strongest of the 5 Kages.
(Meaning 5kages at the time he Died).
Hiruzen Never said iruka's statment wasn't True though.
He just said don't talk about the Past Tense. (when he was in his prime).
Meaning In the past when he was in his prime, So in the past He was said to be the strongest.
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And about following the Manga too blindly I know I am, and the statement was probably not that accurate since every now and then Kishi makes a character "the strongest ninja" but still it annoys me that even after all of the statements people consider him the weakest Hokage even when he was directly compared to Hashirama and Minato and stated to be better than them.
Iruka was speaking in past tense like "he was this and this" and Hiruzen said don't speak in the past tense meaning I'm not so old, that is what he meant.
And about following the Manga too blindly I know I am, and the statement was probably not that accurate since every now and then Kishi makes a character "the strongest ninja" but still it annoys me that even after all of the statements people consider him the weakest Hokage even when he was directly compared to Hashirama and Minato and stated to be better than them.
teetooktier
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Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi
We do know that he was better than the third Raikage, who is himself pretty badass.
We do know that he was better than the third Raikage, who is himself pretty badass.
spokentruth
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And ur forgot 1 thing the said was said 2be the strongest not the strongest and they where both weak Hell Iruka still thinks he can beat Naruto
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Second, even at 69 he was stronger than the current Kages, so you can only imagine how strong he was at his prime.
First, what does Madara know about Hiruzen he never fought him.
Second, even at 69 he was stronger than the current Kages, so you can only imagine how strong he was at his prime.
purewesome
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secondly we dont know how strong and wat are all tech he has bcs he dont have something unique ability like gaara who can control sand or minato like FTG or even 1st which is wood element his fight against oro is just nothing but kakashi lvl jutsu and finally sealing thats why people think he is weak
its simple bcs 3rd doent displayed anything impressive in his fight against oro and his tech was originally is of minato's
secondly we dont know how strong and wat are all tech he has bcs he dont have something unique ability like gaara who can control sand or minato like FTG or even 1st which is wood element his fight against oro is just nothing but kakashi lvl jutsu and finally sealing thats why people think he is weak