Why is Amaterasu so overrated??

[narutogrg]

BOGARD i liked your description but it is a powerful jutsu but can be dodged

 

[joekyure]

It's not overrated, look at what has to be done in order to use that jutsu in the first place.. Just cause it hasn't killed any ninja in the manga doesn't mean it can't.. Itachi was a pacifist even if he could kill using amaterasu.. he wouldn't

 

[iSpeak]

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here are some..not only reflex but reflex is a dominant factor and not speed..

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No time to scan all...speed plays a small role? Do you realize that every movement speed comes along?

Reflex: the automatic response of a muscle to a stimulus

Even if you know that something is coming at you, when you don't have speed to avoid that then you'll get hit.

Take sasuke and lee's fight as an example: Sasuke has sharingan and was able to see lee but his body and speed can't react against lee's speed.

Whether it's V1 or V2, A's reflexes are the same. The difference is that the speed in V1 and speed in V2. One more thing, other scan have different translations.

As I said, if ama is moving at constant speed, then at 1m away from A, its speed will always be the same. A dodging it means he moves faster than ama at a certain point. It doesn't mean that he is faster if they were allowed to travel from earth to moon. FASTER AT A CERTAIN POINT! A's full speed is capable of dodging AMA so Minato reacting and dodging A's full speed means that he can dodge AMA.

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IN THIS SITUATION<--- That was the first thing I wrote in the quote... did you not see it?
Like I said, the size of the Amatearsu was quite small, so the Raikage hardly needed to move far in order to dodge it. This means that the Amaterasu would need to be very close to the Raikage (closer than the length of Amaterasu) in order for the "Raikage needs to travel faster than Amaterasu" rule to take effect. Since it was at a distance, it means that reflex was the dominant factor in dodging it. Speed was a factor aswell, but not as much as reflex simply because the distance which the Raikage needed to travel to dodge it was smaller than the distance between the Amaterasu and the Raikage. None of the quotes you have brought up show that I said that reflex is the only factor in dodging a punch... because I never said that.
Faster at a certain point. Since Raikage has a better reaction time than Minato, and Amaterasu is faster than thhe Raikage, then the Amaterasu would need to be shot from far in order for him to have enough reaction time to escape. But since Amaterasu is short ranged anyway, this means Minato wouldn't be able to dodge Amaterasu if shot at him.
I have explained to you why Amaterasu is faster than Raikage and you havn't been able to counter it.
Anyway, im done on this subject. I just wanted you to see this because the other thread got closed.
Peace.

 

[destined 2 win]

i see most of the peoples say amaterasu is a one hit knock out. well let me give u few examples of one hit K.O
1.sledge hammer blow straight at the nuts of a person
2.pointed pencil stabb at the middle of forehead
3.a coconut falling from tree and hitting a person at his head.
4.poisonous bite from taipen snake
5.falling from a 10 story house.
etc

well guys these are sure 1 hit KO but amatersu has been used like dozone times but no one has ever died so far.:flaw:

 

[destined 2 win]

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IN THIS SITUATION!!<--- is it really that hard to read a simple quote?
Like I said, the size of the Amatearsu was quite small, so the Raikage hardly needed to move far in order to dodge it. This means that the Amaterasu would need to be very close to the Raikage in order for the "Raikage needs to travel faster than Amaterasu" rule to take effect. Since it was at a distance, it means that reflex was the dominant factor in dodging it. Speed was a factor aswell, but not as much as reflex simply because the distance which the Raikage needed to travel to dodge it was smaller than the distance between the Amaterasu and the Raikage. Jesus, is it really that hard to understand? Do you know what dominant means? None of the quotes you have brought up show that I said that reflex is the only factor in dodging a punch... because I never said that.
Faster at a certain point. Since Raikage has a better reaction time than Minato, and Amaterasu is faster than thhe Raikage, then the Amaterasu would need to be shot from far in order for him to have enough reaction time to escape. But since Amaterasu is short ranged anyway, this means Minato wouldn't be able to dodge Amaterasu if shot at him.
I have explained to you why Amaterasu is faster than Raikage and you havn't been able to counter it.
Anyway, im done on this subject. I just wanted you to see this because the other thread got closed.

u sir proved yourself greatest manga reader bcoz every points u mentioned are logical and correct. u are also awarded biggest nerd award on NB too. congrats:sy:

 

[BloodSeed]

ive wonder why madara doesnt beat hashirama with that technique if it was too fast for minato to dodge :rofl:

 

[ImNoOne]

Yes IF you can be aware but what you really need is the means to be able to dodge it or stop it.

Just to point it out that being aware is what confines reflexes. The rest is in fact speed. The bridge between the two is called reaction time. Which is the time it takes from the moment you noticed until you make a move.

So in order to avoid Amaterasu one needs the 3. Quick reflexes, short reaction time and shit loads of speed.

Now as for what Blaze said.

Usain Bolts is the fastest man on earth. If you watch the 100m often you'd see that he has hardly ever the first person to react to the gun. People alot slower than him have better reaction time and get out of the blocks alot quicker than him. Tyson Gay and Powell, usually react to the gun and get out of the blocks alot faster than usain bolts. They have the better reaction time, but bolts is the fastest.

Basically Gay or Powell have a better chance to evade amaterasu than Bolts if we were to make this an irl situation. Its reaction time and not speed. Do however believe that Minato possibly has the reaction time to evade amaterasu if he is looking into an uchiha's eyes like what A did.

Gay and Powell have a better start, with means they are capable of explosive moments, also referred to as short term speed. A lot of this has to do with muscular density, but that's beyond the point. As for Bolts he might not be able to burst in such short notice but he get's faster in the long run, which doesn't mean he is capable of higher acceleration, just that he reaches maximum velocity later.

Another example of this difference can be found easily on cars. There are cars that can go from 0 to 100Km per hour really fast. However those are not the cars who reach the highest velocities. It only means that they have the most power.

To resume: Accelaration/explosion power does not equal velocity.
Ence you don0t need to be the fastest man alive in Narutoverse to avoid Amaterasu, granted that you have reflexes, short reaction time and enough acceleration power to move some inches in a short moment.

One should stick to the matters on knows well before making a comparison.

 

[YourMom]

I think the reason You don't see it "one hit kill" anyone is because of the toll it takes on the user, right? "Use of the technique also puts a great deal of strain on the user, usually causing their eyes to bleed." from narutopedia. I imagine it also takes a lot of chakra to use it and so far the only people to be able to dodge it were people with above average speed. It also states that Amaterasu burns slowly which gives you time to remove any body part or clothing hit (like A and Sasuke did) so even if you were hit your whole body would have to go into flames to "one hit kill" you.

(1)Gay and Powell have a better start, with means they are capable of explosive moments, also referred to as short term speed. A lot of this has to do with muscular density, but that's beyond the point. As for (2)Bolts he might not be able to burst in such short notice but he get's faster in the long run, which doesn't mean he is capable of higher acceleration, just that he reaches maximum velocity later.

(1) isn't "short term speed" known as sprinting? If gay and Powell have a better start or explode out of the blocks faster that means they have better acceleration not better "short term speed"

(2) it's Bolt not Bolts

 

[hiitz]

Black falme ?

 

[hiitz]

One hit ko

 

[Lelouch V Brittania]

I completely agree. It's definitely the most overrated jutsu in the manga.

 

[ImNoOne]

(1) isn't "short term speed" known as sprinting? If gay and Powell have a better start or explode out of the blocks faster that means they have better acceleration not better "short term speed"

Short term as in it lasts for a short amount of time. It doesn't come down only to acceleration as they obviously can't keep up that increase momentum ratio. But you are right it wasn't clearly explained in that sentence, although I clarified that further down the post. The technical term is actually explosion. But for those who don't know the terminology it might be confusing unless I tried to explain it other words.

(2) it's Bolt not Bolts

Is that right? My bad then. The point still remains the same.

 

[YourMom]

Short term as in it lasts for a short amount of time. It doesn't come down only to acceleration as they obviously can't keep up that increase momentum ratio.

They can keep it up for the short distance they have to run. They only do 100 and 400 meters I believe and they don't reach maximum speed right away so they usually are able to reach and sustain maximum speed through the finish.

 

[allWILLknowPAIN]

Keep in mind that we've never seen it used with "intent to kill". Sasuke was trying to capture Bee and Itachi clearly wasn't trying to kill Sasuke. It's possible that Amaterasu could be used in a wide angle blast, covering everything in the user's field of vision.

um you are wrong sasuke was trying to kill bee because bee was gonna kill them if he didnt, sasuke did not know before he set bee on fire that he could put it out and also did you forget itachis trap for tobi that was meant to kill so get your fact straight

 

[allWILLknowPAIN]

There's so much wrong about some posts made in this thread.
I won't get involved into this, but I'll clarify some grave misconceptions.

1. Amaterasu is not a close range technique. The databook page somebody quoted here refers to Tensha Fuin: Amaterasu, the technique Itachi used to seal it into Sasuke's eyes. That technique only works at close range, obviously. But Amaterasu itself is a close to far range technique, as stated in the first or second databook.

2. It does appear, and it does not travel. That's not just implied by the SFX: Appearing, but can be clearly seen. Of course, after it appeared it travels, that's why it moved to the Samurai, that's why it moved from the roof of the Uchiha building to the forest. That much should be obvious. Obviously the flames do not disappear if they miss, that's why they're moving forward after they have appeared.

3. It does not take any preparation time. There are plenty of techniques that took some time to be prepared the first time, but can now be used nearly instantly. A good example would be Kamui. It was shown that Amaterasu can be used instantly when Itachi and Sasuke used it against Kidomaru's web.

4. Ordinary Kawarimi no Jutsu will not help against Amaterasu. Who had that ridiculous idea? With ordinary Kawarami one can switch the position with any kind of object, but obviously doing so wouldn't get rid of the flames. Sasuke used a special version, that only he, Orochimaru and Kabuto can use, since it's based on Orochimaru's rebirth technique. Bee used a unique version as well, since he's a Jinchuuriki and was transformed into Hachibi at that point. On top of that there were two main factors enabling him to do so. The first one is that Sasuke had to protect Karin, otherwise he wouldn't even have cut off that tentacle. The second one is that Sasuke didn't intend to kill Bee, that's why he extinguished the flames.

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So, of one doesn't have amazing reflexes or sensing abilities and speed on Raikage's Raiton no Yoroi v2 level, he cannot dodge Amaterasu. If one doesn't have any kind of advanced absorbing or repulsion technique, can use a rebirth technique or extinguish them, they cannot get off the flames after being hit. It's not just instantly and nearly impossible to dodge, it's also deadly in itself. It kills a multiplying dog that cannot be killed by ordinary means. It burns a hole into the stomach of a toad whose stomach was said to be fire-resistant. It disabled a Bijuu, and not just any Bijuu, but the second strongest. Not even self-healing on Tsunade's level will help against those flames, since they burn for seven days or until the target is completely annihilated.

Of course, it's overrated by some people, but it's more underrated than overrated.

If requested, I'll provide the appropriate pictures to back up my points.

you are a joke buddy on many accounts but i will clarify just a couple

1 it was bees idea to atk kurin to foce sasuke to protect her so it was bees idea that means he countered ameratsu
2 sasuke was trying to kill bee cause bee was too strong i know this for a fact because sasuke did not know he could put out the flames until after
3 if the manga makes it pretty clear that minto is the fastest ever and then even A himself tells naruto he is the fastest now that minato is dead then minato can dodge anything A can so since we all seen with our own eyes A dodge ameratsu then minato can ABSOLUTLY dodge it
so please keep your stupid misguided comments to your self fanboy

 

[Warrior3]

Sharingan is overrated/OP IMO

 

[Loki d]

The flames of the Amaterasu are slow when comes to burning so anyone can take off their clothing or chop off what was hit by it