minato cant dodge amaterasu

can he dodge

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iSpeak

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@iSpeak and Owarji and any other dumbahh who believes that Raikage V2 Reflexes > Minato... take Shee's word... shove it up your ahh and believe on what the Raikage himself said.

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So how in the world does this show that they have faster reflexes than Raikage? Jesus, you really need to spend more time on your science homework.
 

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no dude if it was instant then railage would have got hit with the flames even as he moved.
I have said on this in the first page

Once it's focused and shot the flames appear instant. Theres nothing really proving the Raikage actually felt the heat soooo....
 
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So how in the world does this show that they have faster reflexes than Raikage? Jesus, you really need to spend more time on your science homework.

listen if you loose your temper keep it to yourself don't try to sound insulting.

Don't try to get this thread closed plz its a request
 

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your resilience is impressive lol , but you brought a few into your realm of understanding so i wouldnt call it a complete waste

Thanks lol. Yep, as long as the sensible members with sense have understood what I am saying, that is all that matters.
I guess I have finished my time here... I don't need to waste time trying to convince people who are in complete denial. Especially when I am just repeating the same thing over and over.
 

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So how in the world does this show that they have faster reflexes than Raikage? Jesus, you really need to spend more time on your science homework.

dodge/däj/
Verb:
Avoid (someone or something) by a sudden quick movement: "we ducked inside our doorway to dodge shrapnel that was raining down".
Noun:
A sudden quick movement to avoid someone or something.
Synonyms:
verb. evade - elude - avoid - shirk
noun. trick - ruse - artifice - evasion

re·flex/ˈrēˌfleks/
Noun:
An action that is performed without conscious thought as a response to a stimulus.
Adjective:
(of an action) Performed without conscious thought as an automatic response to a stimulus.
Synonyms:
noun. reflexion - reflection
adjective. reflexive

re·ac·tion/rēˈakSHən/
Noun:
An action performed or a feeling experienced in response to a situation or event: "Carrie's immediate reaction was one of relief".
A person's ability to respond physically and mentally to external stimuli.
 

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The fact that the way the Raikage used Lightning Armour to dodge Amaterasu and Minato dodged Raikage's punch is two different things. Raikage stayed out of Sasukes sight with his speed alone. Minato reacted to seeing Raikages punch with his reflexes and activated FTG.

The thing is Amaterasu is instant. Just as instant as FTG.

Yes, it is. But instant once the eye has focused. And the eye focusing seems to have the side effect of blood pouring out of the eye. That is a precursor to the activation of the jutsu. And judging by the fact that Minato WAS able to read an react against the Raikage's punch, my personal belief is, being the genius he is, he will realize a threat by even the smallest hint, like the blood. And in that instant he would escape and "dodge" amaterasu. Now, of course, there are the questions like "why would he be looking into the eyes?" and the truth is, in a battle scenario, he probably wouldn't. But in this scenario, where we aren't taking into account genjutsu, he would definitely be capable of dodging amaterasu. But if he weren't looking into the eyes of the caster, then he may not be able to (although we DO know that his base speed is extremely impressive. He may still be able to, but I would doubt that more).
 

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Yes, it is. But instant once the eye has focused. And the eye focusing seems to have the side effect of blood pouring out of the eye. That is a precursor to the activation of the jutsu. And judging by the fact that Minato WAS able to read an react against the Raikage's punch, my personal belief is, being the genius he is, he will realize a threat by even the smallest hint, like the blood. And in that instant he would escape and "dodge" amaterasu. Now, of course, there are the questions like "why would he be looking into the eyes?" and the truth is, in a battle scenario, he probably wouldn't. But in this scenario, where we aren't taking into account genjutsu, he would definitely be capable of dodging amaterasu. But if he weren't looking into the eyes of the caster, then he may not be able to (although we DO know that his base speed is extremely impressive. He may still be able to, but I would doubt that more).

In that case I completely agree with you then.
 

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@this long debate against who has faster reflexes Minato or v2 Raikage....I don't see how dodging a punch means you have faster reflexes than someone. Especially when you dodge without moving your body.....
 

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This thread is stupid of course he can dodge amaterasu.
 

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@this long debate against who has faster reflexes Minato or v2 Raikage....I don't see how dodging a punch means you have faster reflexes than someone. Especially when you dodge without moving your body.....

His fast reaction time allowed him to see Raikage V2's punch and use FTG to escape that punch.
 

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listen if you loose your temper keep it to yourself don't try to sound insulting.

Sure. But where was you when people like ReapTermin was saying stuff like this to me and I was still arguing my myself?

Everybody just -Rep his dumbahh and use FTG to get the FCK outa here. He won't know... his slow brain won't be able to keep up with FTG.
Oh... you simply agreed with him...
nah no need for that everyone has seen his logic.
I don't want tsuchi to close this thread. Let everyone see his posts
Doesn't seem right to me. Especially since he has even admitted to trolling. Obviously you are singling me out because I am going against you... which makes your comment that less meaningful to me. So there is no point trying to play the "good guy" now.
Anyway, like I said.. im done here. Now people are trying to give me the definition of what reflex is.. like I am not the one trying to explain it to them. And people still believe dodging something means you have better speed/reflexes than it. which is completely false and illogical.
You guys can stay in denial all you want... as long as the people with sense have understood what I am saying.

Peace.
 

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His fast reaction time allowed him to see Raikage V2's punch and use FTG to escape that punch.

Does this mean Sasukes reaction time is on par with Minato and Raikage V2.


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It's basically the same thing.
 

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Amaterasu isn't instantaneous, evidenced by A dodging it and Gaara blocking them. Minato's Flying Thunder God technique IS instantaneous, meaning he can dodge anything. This thread is stupid.

And to people saying that A's reaction time is like 'a flash of light', you're reading a bad translation from SleepyFans. The actual Japanese says that A's reaction time is like that of the 'Yellow Flash's' aka Minato.
 
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You posted two scans of minato dodgin A , what is your point? We already know Minato can dodge A..

Minato doesn't know that the change in air pressure = amaterasu.. zetsu and nagato knew.. not to mention that only two sensors picked up on it.. Minato's only sensor abilities is when he touches the ground like tobirama





Don't, Don't , I repeat don't quote idiots and trolls..

Kakashi showed first hand that ninja often attain speed that they cannot handle due to a lack of reflexes such as Kakashi before receiving the Sharingan.

My point is since A was able to dodge amaterasu using his full speed then Minato dodging A's full speed means that he can also dodge amaterasu.

at the bolded part:

what the hell are you talking about? Do you know what a pressure means? Do you have to be a sensor to feel the change in pressure?

let's put it this way: If you're at ground level where you have the maximum amount of air above then you suddenly go to the top of the mountain, you can feel the change in pressure because there is hardly air above the mountain compared to the ground level. If there is a change in pressure, our body can definitely feel it.

Like what zetsu said, the air around ITachi is changing. It could be from cool air to warm air. It's normal that everybody can feel whenever there's a change in pressure because the body will react to its change.

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Another thing is..Amaterasu burns whatever the eye FOCUSES. Take note of the word FOCUS

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It should not be on its field of vision because it was demonstrated that the fire goes after Sasuke which Itachi has focused on and not the others that was on its field of vision. Also, Sasuke outruns it. Running takes time so therefore we can conclude that Amaterasu is not instant. See scan below

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Lastly, it can be countered with a replacement technique as demonstrated by Sasuke.

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So, tell me again why Minato can't dodge Amaterasu when

1. He can feel the change in pressure (everybody can feel pressure changes because our body will react to it)

2. He was able to dodge A's fastest attack

3. Sasuke was able to outrun Amaterasu in a few seconds

4. Amaterasu can be outsmarted by using a replacement technique

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Does this mean Sasukes reaction time is on par with Minato and Raikage V2.


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It's basically the same thing.

+rep before I leave. Clearly Sasuke magaged to glance at the Raikage in the bottom left panel. Shows that what they are saying is complete nonsense. But they will never understand.
 

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Does this mean Sasukes reaction time is on par with Minato and Raikage V2.


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It's basically the same thing.

Yeah, but his speed is inferior to Minato and Raikage. That's why his only option was to use Amaterasu around his Susano'o. If he was able to use FTG, the could have just escaped instead of using Amaterasu on his Susano'o.
 

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Yeah, but his speed is inferior to Minato and Raikage. That's why his only option was to use Amaterasu around his Susano'o. If he was able to use FTG, the could have just escaped instead of using Amaterasu on his Susano'o.

Okie just making sure. :cool:
 

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+rep before I leave. Clearly Sasuke magaged to glance at the Raikage in the bottom left panel. Shows that what they are saying is complete nonsense. But they will never understand.

Please check my post before this then kindly address it.
 

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Okie just making sure. :cool:

Yeah, but Owarij and iSpeak think that is only about reflex. Minato's fast reaction time and FTG make him faster than Raikage V2. Having fast reaction time is not the only thing you need to evade Amaterasu, you need fast reaction time and fast movement(or FTG for Minato). Minato being able to evade Raikage V2 should tell them that he has the required reaction time to evade Amaterasu... even if his reaction time is "inferior" to Raikage V2.
 

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My point is since A was able to dodge amaterasu using his full speed then Minato dodging A's full speed means that he can also dodge amaterasu.

at the bolded part:

what the hell are you talking about? Do you know what a pressure means? Do you have to be a sensor to feel the change in pressure?

let's put it this way: If you're at ground level where you have the maximum amount of air above then you suddenly go to the top of the mountain, you can feel the change in pressure because there is hardly air above the mountain compared to the ground level. If there is a change in pressure, our body can definitely feel it.

Like what zetsu said, the air around ITachi is changing. It could be from cool air to warm air. It's normal that everybody can feel whenever there's a change in pressure because the body will react to its change.

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Another thing is..Amaterasu burns whatever the eye FOCUSES. Take note of the word FOCUS

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It should not be on its field of vision because it was demonstrated that the fire goes after Sasuke which Itachi has focused on and not the others that was on its field of vision. Also, Sasuke outruns it. Running takes time so therefore we can conclude that Amaterasu is not instant. See scan below

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Lastly, it can be countered with a replacement technique as demonstrated by Sasuke.

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So, tell me again why Minato can't dodge Amaterasu when

1. He can feel the change in pressure (everybody can feel pressure changes because our body will react to it)

2. He was able to dodge A's fastest attack

3. Sasuke was able to outrun Amaterasu in a few seconds

4. Amaterasu can be outsmarted by using a replacement technique

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1. Zetsu is a sensor and he felt the air change around Itachi not his opponent.

2. Raikages attacks... as fast as it might be is not instant unlike Amaterasu

3. You said it yourself it hits whatever the user focuses on. Itachi was never aiming to kill Sasuke and was probably trying to focus on his wing.

4. You mean the log trick? really :rolleyes:
 
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