minato cant dodge amaterasu

can he dodge

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WOW NOW WE HAVE THE FASTEST ATTACK IN NARUTOVERSE THE AMATERASU ITACHI FANBOYS ARE TRULY AMAZING :rofl:
 

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nobody did respond to this ^

did they not get the sarcasm

What Shee said can be misinterpreted. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par with Raikage Base. He could have said that Raikage V2 reflexes are greater than Minato's because of V2. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par to Raikage V2, but since he's covered in Lighting Chakra, the Sharingan would not be able to read his movements because it disturbs the way the Sharingan reads his movements.

And do you go by what the broad Manga says... or by what a single characters says? If you go by what a single character says... how can Shee really know that? He's not the Raikage, nor is he Minato.

And they have not explained mine either. This whole argument is based on Shee's stupid comment. Even the Raikage admitted that Minato was better than him.
 

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This argument is based on what Shee said... only one person said it... only one. I question Shee's credibility just like everybody questions Iruka's.
What's even funny is that they think Shee was talking about "base reflexes" when Raikage was cover with lightning shroud at that moment. Is that "base reflexes?" I posted a link to show how Minatos reflexes are far superior to Raikages and no one replied to that. Their only belief is what Shee said, instead of believing what they see?? On my page, Minato surpassed A in both speed and reflexes
 

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Yep. I am kinda getting tired of this thread anyway. I have never argued about the same thing for 45 pages before.

your resilience is impressive lol , but you brought a few into your realm of understanding so i wouldnt call it a complete waste



I honestly don't know how hard it is to grasp that Minato can cover distances faster than the speed of light, thus in terms of speed , his ftg operates faster than the speed of light..



It's 2:07, been arguing in this thread all day.. I need sleep... Be back here tmrw

hes just trying to get technical just because :rolleyes:

for all intensive purposes hes spanning the distance between 2 points faster than light would
 

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What Shee said can be misinterpreted. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par with Raikage Base. He could have said that Raikage V2 reflexes are greater than Minato's because of V2. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par to Raikage V2, but since he's covered in Lighting Chakra, the Sharingan would not be able to read his movements because it disturbs the way the Sharingan reads his movements.

And do you go by what the broad Manga says... or by what a single characters says? If you go by what a single character says... how can Shee really know that? He's not the Raikage, nor is he Minato.

C's comment cannot be misinterprited as "Minato has V2 Raikage relexes" in any way. It clearly states "but now that" afterwards, which means that the Raiton Armor has increased Raikage's reflexes even further after the first statement, which was comparing Minato's reflexes to the Raikage's. C says "surprised they could keep up" when comparing Minato and Raikage's reflexes... then says "But now they won't be able to" when commenting on the increase reflexes which Raiton Armor gives. It is a clear as day.
You said English is you 3rd language right? Then trust me on this. Anybody who knows what they are talking about would tell you the same.
 
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What's even funny is that they think Shee was talking about "base reflexes" when Raikage was cover with lightning shroud at that moment. Is that "base reflexes?" I posted a link to show how Minatos reflexes are far superior to Raikages and no one replied to that. Their only belief is what Shee said, instead of believing what they see?? On my page, Minato surpassed A in both speed and reflexes

But they never understand. They think he said: Raikage V2 has by far the best reflexes in the whole Narutoverse... even greater than Minato.

What Shee said can be misinterpreted.
 

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LOL i just noticed the thread creator itself got banned :rofl:

Heyyy guess who loves it when they present an argument and are ignored!!!!!!!!! No one does, that's the answer. I present a different argument than ANYONE else, and only one person acknowledges it. I appreciate that by the way sWAy, +rep for being the only one.



You can't if its going too fast. The Sharingan enhances this ability, but A is too fast still. That's why Sasuke couldn't hit him, because he couldn't focus on him. Yet somehow Minato was able to see A coming and dodge his fastest punch. Which means Minato's reflexes are faster than Sasuke's ability to focus on a target.

i noticed your post too and i think no one responded to it cause they dont have a counter for it or they just didnt understood it
 
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Heyyy guess who loves it when they present an argument and are ignored!!!!!!!!! No one does, that's the answer. I present a different argument than ANYONE else, and only one person acknowledges it. I appreciate that by the way sWAy, +rep for being the only one.

I actually think your quote makes the most sense. No one has yet to comment on it. I belive your right when you say that it appears on whatever the eye can focus on. If that is the case then how can you focus on something you can't see if it is moving so fast?

You can't if its going too fast. The Sharingan enhances this ability, but A is too fast still. That's why Sasuke couldn't hit him, because he couldn't focus on him. Yet somehow Minato was able to see A coming and dodge his fastest punch. Which means Minato's reflexes are faster than Sasuke's ability to focus on a target.
 

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Heyyy guess who loves it when they present an argument and are ignored!!!!!!!!! No one does, that's the answer. I present a different argument than ANYONE else, and only one person acknowledges it. I appreciate that by the way sWAy, +rep for being the only one.



You can't if its going too fast. The Sharingan enhances this ability, but A is too fast still. That's why Sasuke couldn't hit him, because he couldn't focus on him. Yet somehow Minato was able to see A coming and dodge his fastest punch. Which means Minato's reflexes are faster than Sasuke's ability to focus on a target.

thats horrible logic
 

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C's comment cannot be misinterprited as "Minato has V2 Raikage relexes" in any way. It clearly states "but now that" afterwards, which means that the Raiton Armor has increased Raikage's reflexes even further after the first statement, which was comparing Minato's reflexes to the Raikage's. C says "surprised they could keep up" when comparing Minato and Raikage's reflexes... then says "But now they won't be able to" when commenting on the increase reflexes which Raiton Armor gives. It is a clear as day.
You said English is you 3rd language right? Then trust me on this. Anybody who knows what they are talking about would tell you the same.

He said that one thing and you believe it. The whole Manga states that Minato is the fastest... and you ignore it. The Raikage himself said that Minato is better than him. Well... I guess that Hiruzen is stronger than the SO6P since he said something similar.

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He said that one thing and you believe it. The whole Manga states that Minato is the fastest... and you ignore it. The Raikage himself said that Minato is better than him. Well... I guess that Hiruzen is stronger than the SO6P since he said something similar.

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WTF are you talking about? I know Minato is the fastest with FTG... have you even been paying attention to what I am saying or are you just in denial?
REFLEXES is what V2 Raikage has which is better than Minato's... not speed.
Ok, show me where Raikage said Minato has better reflexes than him in his V2 armor. Don't worry, ill wait.
Where did it ever say the Hiruzen is better than the SO6P? He was said to be the strongest Hokage in his prime and the strongest of the current Kage's of his time (confirmed by the databooks). The "God of Shinobi" is just a moniker... do you know what that is?
 

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WTF are you talking about? I know Minato is the fastest with FTG... have you even been paying attention to what I am saying or are you just in denial?
REFLEXES is what V2 Raikage has which is better than Minato's... not speed.
Ok, show me where Raikage said Minato has better reflexes than him in his V2 armor. Don't worry, ill wait.
Where did it ever say the Hiruzen is better than the SO6P? He was said to be the strongest Hokage in his prime and the strongest of the current Kage's of his time (confirmed by the databooks). The "God of Shinobi" is just a moniker... do you know what that is?

I question Shee's word the same way you question Iruka's word. Not one person in this site believes that Hiruzen > All other Hokages.

Raikage V2 said that only KM Naruto and Minato have been able to dodge his fastest move. He didn't say "reflexes", but he did say that.
 

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You can't if its going too fast. The Sharingan enhances this ability, but A is too fast still. That's why Sasuke couldn't hit him, because he couldn't focus on him. Yet somehow Minato was able to see A coming and dodge his fastest punch. Which means Minato's reflexes are faster than Sasuke's ability to focus on a target.

I don't understand what you are talking about...
If Minato was in the same situation which the Raikage was in (standing still) and Sasuke aimed Amaterasu at him, Minato wouldn't be able to doge in time.
If minato is already moving before the Amaterasu is cast, the obviously he wouldn't need the reflexes. But for that to happen, Minato would need to luckily guess the exact moment when Sasuke uses it, which is very unlikely (since it has been shown you can stall the Amaterasu after the eye bleeds etc).
 

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Explain to me how?

The fact that the way the Raikage used Lightning Armour to dodge Amaterasu and Minato dodged Raikage's punch is two different things. Raikage stayed out of Sasukes sight with his speed alone. Minato reacted to seeing Raikages punch with his reflexes and activated FTG.

The thing is Amaterasu is instant. Just as instant as FTG.
 

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@iSpeak and Owarji and any other dumbahh who believes that Raikage V2 Reflexes > Minato... take Shee's word... shove it up your ahh and believe on what the Raikage himself said.

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I question Shee's word the same way you question Iruka's word. Not one person in this site believes that Hiruzen > All other Hokages.

Raikage V2 said that only KM Naruto and Minato have been able to dodge his fastest move. He didn't say "reflexes", but he did say that.

Erm... I believe Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage (or atleast joint with Hashirama).. and many others do aswell. It is even stated in the databooks. C had no reason to lie in that situation... and judging by the fact that he said it to himself, he obviously knew what he was talking about.
So how does that prove their reflexes are better than Raikage's? It doesn't. Don't make me have to repost the Sasuke vs Bee example again.
 

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Heyyy guess who loves it when they present an argument and are ignored!!!!!!!!! No one does, that's the answer. I present a different argument than ANYONE else, and only one person acknowledges it. I appreciate that by the way sWAy, +rep for being the only one.



You can't if its going too fast. The Sharingan enhances this ability, but A is too fast still. That's why Sasuke couldn't hit him, because he couldn't focus on him. Yet somehow Minato was able to see A coming and dodge his fastest punch. Which means Minato's reflexes are faster than Sasuke's ability to focus on a target.

Anytime..it does make perfect sense though, you can't hit something if you can't focus on it. Ama does require the user to see its target to be able to hit it, if you can't see it, then you can't focus on it thus you would not be able to hit it. In the end it is all assumptions and everything is what ones imagination says it is, because one can never prove it. You can't base everything on logic or even the manga because Kishi has controdicted himself on a number of occasions. In theory if Minato can dodge A then by basic logic he should be able to dodge Ama correct?
 

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Erm... I believe Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage (or atleast joint with Hashirama).. and many others do aswell. It is even stated in the databooks. C had no reason to lie in that situation... and judging by the fact that he said it to himself, he obviously knew what he was talking about.
So how does that prove their reflexes are better than Raikage's? It doesn't. Don't make me have to repost the Sasuke vs Bee example again.

@iSpeak and Owarji and any other dumbahh who believes that Raikage V2 Reflexes > Minato... take Shee's word... shove it up your ahh and believe on what the Raikage himself said.

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The fact that the way the Raikage used Lightning Armour to dodge Amaterasu and Minato dodged Raikage's punch is two different things. Raikage stayed out of Sasukes sight with his speed alone. Minato reacted to seeing Raikages punch with his reflexes and activated FTG.

The thing is Amaterasu is instant. Just as instant as FTG.

no dude if it was instant then railage would have got hit with the flames even as he moved.
I have said on this in the first page
 
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