minato cant dodge amaterasu

[ANBU Kakashi23]

:sy:

you are assuming minato hasn't placed his kunai, he starts his fight with kunais

and amaterasu too requires prep time -_____-

i was about to say....assuming minato doesnt have kunai's placed is the same as assuming raikage tries to avoid amaterasu by starting out in base, then going v2, then trying to avoid it :|

 

[lol99]

and tetsu uchiha- stop -rep'ing ppl if you don't agree with them.

-rep'ing doesn't make you brave -_____-

 

[ReapTermin]

I do agree on that reflex and speed do have to work together, that doesn't mean you are faster then the car, just means your reflexes are really good and that you had the speed to work with your reflexes to dodge the car in the first place. Because obviously your not faster then the car, unless you a have super human speed to out run it.

Are you telling me that if a car is traveling at 1000 feet per second and is 1 inch away from... you can actually avoid that car if your reflexes are good enough? No. You actually have to have very good reflexes to be able to see the car... and you must be able to go faster than 1000 feet per second to the left or right. Remember that the car is wide... you need a speed greater than that of the car to evade the whole car completely.

Traveling left to right is the same as traveling linearly.

Reflexes and speed must work together.

 

[EdoMadara]

amaterasu speed=naruto bm speed by now. It haxxed to highest limit.

 

[Bogard]

That pic shows Minato's reflexes..

NOTHING IN THAT PIC displays Raikages reflexes..

after the punch was thrown, raiakge's reflexes were not in play.. the one dodging the attack would have to rely on their reflexes...

Reflexes are a defence mechanism for the body...With minato's reflexes he can just barely dodge V2 strike..

however Minato's reflexes are only comparable to that of BASE raikage...
In v2 raikage is own a whole other level according to shee...
And even with enhanced reflexes he was inches away from getting hit with amaterasu...

How could a man with base raiakge reflexes. dodge something that Raikage needed V2 reflexes for? especially when he doesn;t even know the jtusu exists

You say it yourself. He was capable to dodge Amaterasu in V2, but he wasn't even capable to dodge Minato. That shows he was completely surpass by Minato:

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He didn't even had time to react. He was on the tree on the first pic i show you. How could not he remark Minato coming when he was that far from him and not even have time to react? That shows his reaction time was slower

 

[EdoMadara]

naruto km avoids AV2 strike, its fastest. By this scene whos the faster one KM NARUTO OR AV2 ? GOD.

 

[Owarij]

Are you telling me that of a car is traveling at 1000 feet per second and is 1 inch away from... you can actually avoid that car if your reflexes are good enough? No. You actually have to have very good reflexes to be able to see the car... and you must be able to go faster than 1000 feet per second to the left or right. Remember that the car is wide... you need a speed greater than that of the car the evade the whole car completely.

Traveling left to right is the same as traveling linearly.

Reflexes and speed must work together.

Urm no, You don't need to be able to travel 1000 feet per second to escape the car..

wtf? people dodge speeding cars all the time, do humans travel at 200mph?

Get real

A can being 1 inch infront of you is exactly like the point blank bullet scenario... You'd need godlike reflexes to escape it... Speed isn't necessarily, If you have the god like reflexes neccesary , for eg, MATRIX, perfect example.. with reflexes like Neo etc, you can dodge things even if you have average speed..


Matrix is a perfect example of how reflexes decide what you dodge..

 

[Owarij]

You say it yourself. He was capable to dodge Amaterasu in V2, but he wasn't even capable to dodge Minato. That shows he was completely surpass by Minato:

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He didn't even had time to react.

Dude , you aren't making any sense...
He had a kunai right next to him, Minato teleported to it and kicked his back..

what does that have to do with anything we are talking about? With ftg Minato is undobtedly faster than raikage....Decades faster than him.. so ofc he can do that

 

[ReapTermin]

This is an example. Roger was moving faster than the bus itself... that's why he was able to evade it many times. If he was moving slower than the bus... he would have ended like the doll he placed on the floor.

 

[iSpeak]

Are you telling me that if a car is traveling at 1000 feet per second and is 1 inch away from... you can actually avoid that car if your reflexes are good enough? No. You actually have to have very good reflexes to be able to see the car... and you must be able to go faster than 1000 feet per second to the left or right. Remember that the car is wide... you need a speed greater than that of the car to evade the whole car completely.

Traveling left to right is the same as traveling linearly.

Reflexes and speed must work together.

Are you even thinking straight? You have just proven why what you said is false...
You questioned the distance of the car right? Which means distance is one of the factors which determines if you are able to dodge something.
For example: Minato barely dodged Raikage, so using your foolish logic it means Minato has better reflexes correct? But if Raikage was standing a bit closer, Minato would have been hit by the punch... So using your foolish logic, Raikage's reflexes are only better when he is close to Minato? What kinda stupid logic is that?
You honestly need to re-sit your science class... clearly you didn't even learn the basics.
Like I said a thousand times... using your foolish logic would mean that every boxing match would end with one of the boxers being unable to dodge any of the opponents punches. Do you realise how stupid that is?
I need to go back and quote everyone who has said something like this. People need to realise what kind of logic people try to use in debating now.

 

[Bogard]

Dude , you aren't making any sense...
He had a kunai right next to him, Minato teleported to it and kicked his back..

what does that have to do with anything we are talking about? With ftg Minato is undobtedly faster than raikage....Decades faster than him.. so ofc he can do that

What you don't understand is that Minato is the one who put the kunai "on" Raikage "before" dodging his attack and without he even knew

 

[Fearmonger]

:sy:

you are assuming minato hasn't placed his kunai, he starts his fight with kunais

and amaterasu too requires prep time -_____-

and whats with this shit that minato doesn't know about amaterasu

danzo recognised sasukes susanoo and raikage too had never before seen amaterasu, he said is it the mangekyou sharingan? meaning he had simply heard of mangekyou sharingan

He didn't have any set in his fight against Tobi. And amaterasu requires no prep time I have no idea where you would get such false information from.

 

[Blue flash]

:sy:um yeah wat dey r sayin minato is obviously faster than raikage soooooooooooooo he can doge it

 

[lol99]

Dude , you aren't making any sense...
He had a kunai right next to him, Minato teleported to it and kicked his back..

what does that have to do with anything we are talking about? With ftg Minato is undobtedly faster than raikage....Decades faster than him.. so ofc he can do that

you have said it yourself

no point arguing about minatos reflexes with you

but my point is just that with FTG minato cannot get hit with amaterasu. His reflexes are just fine, even with teleportation you have to have reflexes of the highest degree to be able to slit your opponents throats or to hit them the moment you teleport to them

He didn't have any set in his fight against Tobi. And amaterasu requires no prep time I have no idea where you would get such false information from.

well i guess itachi was closing his eyes just for fun wasnt he?

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[ReapTermin]

Are you even thinking straight? You have just proven why what you said is false...
You questioned the distance of the car right? Which means distance is one of the factors which determines if you are able to dodge something.
For example: Minato barely dodged Raikage, so using your foolish logic it means Minato has better reflexes correct? But if Raikage was standing a bit closer, Minato would have been hit by the punch... So using your foolish logic, Raikage's reflexes are only better when he is close to Minato? What kinda stupid logic is that?
You honestly need to re-sit your science class... clearly you didn't even learn the basics.

No. Raikage V2 reflexes would have been the same, but Minato would have never been able to react to his punch because he was closer. Raikage V2 speed and reflex would have stayed the same, but him being closer to Minato... means that Minato would have no chance to react to his punch.

 

[Owarij]

you have said it yourself

no point arguing about minatos reflexes with you

but my point is just that with FTG minato cannot get hit with amaterasu. His reflexes are just fine, even with teleportation you have to have reflexes of the highest degree to be able to slit your opponents throats or to hit them the moment you teleport to them[/QUOTE]

They aren't on v2 raikage's level, no they aren't..

They are better than the average shinobi.. yes, noone is doubting this... Minato and raikage have some of the best reflexes in the show... But Minato < Raikage when it comes to the reflexes department..

 

[iSpeak]

i can accept this for now, just because we dont have a manga example of minato reacting to a jutsu as fast acting as amaterasu so i really only think the way i do because its my opinion about his reflexes and mental capacity, i have no substantiation to make a stronger claim in that regard

but +rep for you for sticking with this so long

i dont have nearly enough patience for that

Thanks. +rep to you for being one of the only people to understand that dodging something doesn't mean you have faster speed or reflexes. I don't understand why some people are even questioning that.

 

[sWAy253]

Are you telling me that if a car is traveling at 1000 feet per second and is 1 inch away from... you can actually avoid that car if your reflexes are good enough? No. You actually have to have very good reflexes to be able to see the car... and you must be able to go faster than 1000 feet per second to the left or right. Remember that the car is wide... you need a speed greater than that of the car to evade the whole car completely.

Traveling left to right is the same as traveling linearly.

Reflexes and speed must work together.

The point that I was trying to make is that, you are not faster then the car, like you said you have to have very good reflexes, and the right amount of speed to work with your reflexes to dodge the car. What I'm getting from your statement is that you would have to be faster then the car, which no ones is faster then a car, I've seen people move out the way from getting hit by a car before, doesn't mean they are faster then the car. I might just misunderstanding what your saying, my bad.

 

[Owarij]

you have said it yourself

no point arguing about minatos reflexes with you

but my point is just that with FTG minato cannot get hit with amaterasu. His reflexes are just fine, even with teleportation you have to have reflexes of the highest degree to be able to slit your opponents throats or to hit them the moment you teleport to them


well i guess itachi was closing his eyes just for fun wasnt he?

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Itachi has used amaterasu without closing his eyes..

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So has sasuke

 

[iSpeak]

No. Raikage V2 reflexes would have been the same, but Minato would have never been able to react to his punch because he was closer. Raikage V2 speed and reflex would have stayed the same, but him being closer to Minato... means that Minato would have no chance to react to his punch.

EXACTLY!! So that proves that dodging a punch doesn't mean you are faster/have better reflexes than what you dodged!!!!! Can you not see how simple it is!?!?! Jesus.