Izanami is effective in battle situation.

[blazekev90]

Izanami can be used without intel, all it takes is knowing the object of an opponent, you don't just fight someone for no reason, you fight them to prevent them from doing something, whether it is kidnapping a noble, or crushing leaf village.

Izanami will force them to give this objective up, or give up intermediate objectives that will bring them toward this goal.

knowing their objective would be the cause of using Izanami, as Itachi used it to end Edo. Izanami wasnt set based off Edo, but off Kabuto's inability to accept himself as an indivdual.

ones objective and their views of themselves dont necessarily correlate.

and as a shinobi there arent always clear objectives, countries could simply be at odds with one another and upon meeting began to brawl.

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

I reread "it can't be used in actual battle "

& edo tensi jutsu really has no drawbacks on the user like Kabuto said , but the pawns summoned by the jutsu can be defeated .

 

[markdabomb22]

I reread "it can't be used in actual battle "

& edo tensi jutsu really has no drawbacks on the user like Kabuto said , but the pawns summoned by the jutsu can be defeated .

what itachi said was "A jutsu with a way to escape it is dangerous and can't really be used during an acutal fight". and heres the page again to confirm it.

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[NarutoVsGoku]

I've heard worst. Some people say "it only works if you don't believe in yourself".

A misconception is that it only works on bad guys and that's just false.

:sy::sy: youve got to be kidding me.. Is this all being said in the vs furoms?!? See this is why i stoppe with vs threads cuz noobs overrun that place

Itachi said it can't be used in battle / Thread

Would you argue against Itachi's words ? + takes long time

I reread "it can't be used in actual battle "

& edo tensi jutsu really has no drawbacks on the user like Kabuto said , but the pawns summoned by the jutsu can be defeated .

Speaking of noobs let me just say this....

Itachi just used izanami in a fight with Kabuto so therefore your logic is invalid

2nd just to be clear itachi said "it cant REALLY be used in an actual fight". How is it that the page was given to you amd you still misquoted what Itachi said?!? Itachi is basically saying "yea you can use it but not really" its not ideal or wise to use because it has a huge weakness and thats an opponent can escape it, why would you want to use a genjutsu that has a possibility of the opponent escaping in a fight? Its not an ideal jutsu to use when fighting, doesnt mean you cant use it in a fight tho.

Like i said Itachi just used it in a fight with Kabuto.

 

[Maunten]

knowing their objective would be the cause of using Izanami, as Itachi used it to end Edo. Izanami wasnt set based off Edo, but off Kabuto's inability to accept himself as an indivdual.

ones objective and their views of themselves dont necessarily correlate.

and as a shinobi there arent always clear objectives, countries could simply be at odds with one another and upon meeting began to brawl.

That izanami is not based around how kabuto views himself, it was based around kabuto trying to kill itatchi so that he would continue the edo, which would result in him reaching his ultimate goal.

Giving up his aim would mean ending the edo, and ending the edo would result in him having to give up his aim. Which is why it could be inferred that izanami is based around who kabuto wants to be, but it is not.

This is shown because itachi states that it creates a loop out of a particular path.

which is why it was designed to stop izanagi

 

[kit]

I believe so as well. Just like Izanagi, Izanami should be used as a last resort in an unorthodox (stoping edo tensei) or dire situation since you will lose your eye once it has been casted.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

I reread "it can't be used in actual battle "

& edo tensi jutsu really has no drawbacks on the user like Kabuto said , but the pawns summoned by the jutsu can be defeated .

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[sindi1997]

+rep and it can actually be used in a battle and itachi didn t said it can t bee used he only said the risk was to high because it can be stoped and well you losse your eye that s why but minato fans are going crazy

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there you go to everyone and look at sasuke s reaction when itachi told him that him the destiny he had chosen for kabuto s izanami

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so shut the **** up and read better

 

[markdabomb22]

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xd ^^

 

[ReLax -]

I already replied to a topic regrading how it was useless, but +rep on the detailed parts.

 

[Ngylle]

great Post Rep++

 

[markdabomb22]

great Post Rep++

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[enditallsin]

Guess itachis says that because that fail ass technique isn't really something you can use without absolute insurance of your opponent.

 

[a shadow hero]

+rep
agree 100%

 

[Dolpha Mihawk]

reps definatley better than siyos thread.

 

[hatakii kakashii]

itachi disagree with you

 

[teetooktier]

Izanami 'can't be used in a real battle' because it requires a lot of setup, and the pay off isn't that amazing; a normal genjutsu can also create an opening without sacrificing an eye. If Itachi can control the battle to such an extent that he can duplicate a scenario exactly, then getting in a Totsuka stab or Amaterasu shouldn't have been a problem.

Look at the manga. Kabuto was already in a genjutsu before Izanami started. If Itachi had wanted to, instead of cutting off a horn with Sasuke's sword, he could have used Totsuka sword and ended the fight right there.

Understand that the main reason Itachi used it against Kabuto is that he cannot kill him because of the Edo tensei. Izanami is perfect for holding an opponent still for long periods of time, but you don't need to do that to get in a one-shot.

 

[Dolpha Mihawk]

yeeah nioce thread.

 

[markdabomb22]

Izanami 'can't be used in a real battle' because it requires a lot of setup, and the pay off isn't that amazing; a normal genjutsu can also create an opening without sacrificing an eye. If Itachi can control the battle to such an extent that he can duplicate a scenario exactly, then getting in a Totsuka stab or Amaterasu shouldn't have been a problem.

Look at the manga. Kabuto was already in a genjutsu before Izanami started. If Itachi had wanted to, instead of cutting off a horn with Sasuke's sword, he could have used Totsuka sword and ended the fight right there.

Understand that the main reason Itachi used it against Kabuto is that he cannot kill him because of the Edo tensei. Izanami is perfect for holding an opponent still for long periods of time, but you don't need to do that to get in a one-shot.

When was kabuto put in regular genjutsu? his eyes were sealed therefore regular genjustu was ineffective plus if your talking about this page that is a clone tech not genjutsu

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[teetooktier]

When was kabuto put in regular genjutsu? his eyes were sealed therefore regular genjustu was ineffective plus if your talking about this page that is a clone tech not genjutsu

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EDIT: Failing to read the last bit of a post FTL. Good catch, although here:

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Itachi just activated his mangekyou, and Kabuto is looking at him. Before this, Itachi had his normal sharingan out, and Kabuto was also looking at him.

I should add that whether he used a genjutsu or clones is beside the point; Itachi made an opening, which could easily have been fatal were he not trying to undo the edo tensei. Izanami is again overkill.